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Chrome 85 Arrives With Tab Management, 10% Faster Page Loads, and PDF Improvements (venturebeat.com) 62

Posted by msmash from the moving-forward dept.
Google today launched Chrome 85 for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, and iOS. Chrome 85 brings tab management changes, 10% faster page loads, PDF improvements, and a slew of developer features. From a report: Google is promising under-the-hood performance improvements with Chrome 85. You can expect two types of speed gains: Profile Guided Optimization, which delivers up to 10% faster page loads, and Tab Throttling, which helps reduce the impact of idle background tabs. The latter, however, is coming to the Beta channel meaning it's not yet ready. Profile Guided Optimization is a compiler optimization technique where the most performance-critical parts of the code can run faster. Profile Guided Optimization prioritizes the most common tasks using real usage scenarios that match the workflows of Chrome users around the world.
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  • Now with 10% faster porn loading!

  • Can I shut up an autoplay site with audio and no pause or volume control on it?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Osgeld ( 1900440 )

      yea use adblock

    • Some sites are impossible to block. The local news sites for CBS affiliates are the worst offenders. Disabling javascript doesn't work and neither do any of the html5 blockers.

      • Does Chrome in Windows still install System Services? It did in the past. I don't want Google to have more control over my computer than I do when running as a limited user.

      • Some sites are impossible to block. The local news sites for CBS affiliates are the worst offenders. Disabling javascript doesn't work and neither do any of the html5 blockers

        Really? I just tried IEEEEeeeee, Edge of Microsoft, and Brave with uBlock and bunches of plugins. (uBlock, NoScript, Cookie AutoDelete -- just to name a few.

        The IE page gives a banner "go away kid, you bother me" and shows the article but doesn't play anything. Well, that's reasonable I guess. [Best Viewed with IE!]

        Using Papercut: the Edge of Microsoft (Edge -- M$ -- dollar bills -- papercut. Get it? Huh?!! Huh?? Well?!!? Bah, you wouldn't know a good joke if it laughed on you) it plays as expect

    • There's a plugin called Disable HTML5 Autoplay that I use. It has a few drawbacks though, like youtube videos will say are playing but aren't. So you have to hit pause and then play again and it will start working.

  • is this the release that neuters the address bar completely, for.. reasons?

  • Chrome, the little browser that ate all my memory and drove my CPU to temperatures it never imagined.

    But I guess if you balance that against the relentless spying, errr, I mean "telemetry", then it's worth it in the end, right?

    • My main desktop has 16gb and at worst I've used 50% of that. What are you doing, using 900 tabs? That's like running gcc with the -j 900 option and complaining.

      • That's like running gcc with the -j 900 option and complaining.

        Probably less a problem than badly built Makefiles that cause race conditions when using the `-j` option... (and, yes, there are a bunch on github and the like)

      • Had to add 8 more GB of RAM to my PC because 8GB just aren't enough for Chrome.
        Every now and then, Gmail itself uses over 1GB. Feedly and Whatsapp Web tend to accumulate RAM over time too.
        A few more tabs, and there goes all my memory.
        I kinda got used to opening top, sorting by 'M'emory and killing the top 2 or 3 memory hungry processes. I even try to bet which tabs will be killed when I kill them.

    • Chrome, the little browser that ate all my memory and drove my CPU to temperatures it never imagined

      You should upgrade your Chrome 50.

      • You should upgrade your Chrome 50.

        I'm running version 84.0.4147.105 (Official Build) (64-bit) but thanks ever so much for the moron-grade advice.

        • Anytime. I can also help you to build/configure your PC properly.

          • Anytime. I can also help you to build/configure your PC properly.

            Thanks, sonny, but I was building PCs while you were still figuring out object permanence.

            • Does that make you better at what you do?

              • Yes, decades of experience almost always provides better results than teenage exuberance.

                • No, I mean, having quite some experience myself, but you, according to your statement, you seem pretty... hem ... retired ; and you know, maybe not, the computer world is changing rapidly, and after a certain age, it's hard to catch up...

                  • Are you kidding? Being semi-retired means I have all the free time I want to keep up with technology news and buy new techy gadgets to play with. (I just took delivery of a new Creality CR-6 SE 3D printer today, for example. Can't wait to put it together and crank it up.)

                    Being semi-retired is awesome, you should try it. It's the best of both worlds- you get paid and hardly have to work at all.

                    Anyway, what were you saying?

          • Look at my ID, and ID number... what does that tell you?

  • Is Software Reporter Tool still there? I watched Software Reporter Tool suck up 75% - 90% CPU and, after a bit of research, I dumped Chrome in a heartbeat. I'll never go back as long as SRT is there.

  • So what user-surly "improvements" ship alongside these performance improvements? Even more RAM-hungry bloat? Further dismantling of a useable UX? More spying, but only by Google and their customers^W friends?

  • ... how slow it is now? It's got a LONG way to go to get up to the speed of FireFox 47 at loading pages. Especially considering it all but shuts off background pages to achieve its slow pace at rendering.

    When I can run the scroll wheel on the mouse faster than Chrome can render a page it SAYS it has finished loading, there is something seriously out of whack with its speed claims.

    Oh, wait - it's probably optimized for online gaming, not static content!

    • When I can run the scroll wheel on the mouse faster than Chrome can render a page it SAYS it has finished loading, there is something seriously out of whack with its speed claims.

      That's called lazy loading. It's a feature.

  • That is one thing I miss from Firefox. A left panel with a tree display of tabs, Each tab header with enough screen space to she the title
  • How about latency - the thing that these sort of companies always tend to ignore? The thing which makes Windows 10 a total dog to use compared to Windows 7.

    Like when you press the Chrome back button and it takes an age for the previous page to appear (and no, I do NOT want a refreshed version of that page - just give me the page as I previously saw it!!).

    Or when it automatically discards tabs to be 'efficient' in memory usage, when in reality, it's a total pain waiting for the tab to reload if you've

    • It's terrible on Android, too. When I load Chrome it punches my phone in the breadbasket for a good ten seconds. I normally use Yuzu Browser but I use Chrome when I need to visit some site with a bunch of shitware that you're not allowed to disable.

  • I can’t live without Firefox treetabs.
    It used to be the one thing that kept me from chrome. Now that google is a ‘do evil’(tm) company, even the addition of side tabs wouldn’t get me back on chrome.

  • We got rid of Flash... (Score:3)

    by VeryFluffyBunny ( 5037285 ) on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @05:09PM (#60440251)

    ...because it was security risk, some people were annoyed by it, etc..

    PDF is & always has been a bigger security risk, most people are annoyed by it in browsers, especially on smaller screens, & it's not even meant for the web - it's a print medium. Can be please end-of-life it in web browsers the same way we've done for Flash?

    Can you imagine the panic & scramble to convert PDFs to... to... HTML? Gasp!

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sgage ( 109086 )

      This! This! A thousand times This!

    • > it's not even meant for the web - it's a print medium.

      Well, what something was made for and what people use it for can be a different thing. Basically nobody is using it for print-related stuff, what it's used for is sending documents around as atomic items. Sure, someone can definitely use HTML for that, but that's not the problem: you'd need a good way to package the HTML and all assets into a package / single file which can be attached to an email. Is there an accepted standard for doing that?

      • Whatever way you come up with also needs to be browser-independent so it displays the same on any client, any sized screen, any zoom level. That's probably the reason that PDF sticks around and they don't in fact just use HTML rendering.

      • Yes, MS Office & LibreOffice (also online docs so that you can keep a single definitive version for each document with updates). Both are readable on phones & tablets, provide better accessibility, & more flexible reading options.
    • Well, there are very few things which are more bloated or more a security risk than a PDF reader... and among them are browsers / HTML readers. So I would not say this is necessarily a good idea.
      • If we can require web publishers to switch & convert from Flash to HTML, why can't we do the same for PDF? Wouldn't it make so many readers' lives easier?

    • PDF is & always has been a bigger security risk, most people are annoyed by it in browsers, especially on smaller screens, & it's not even meant for the web - it's a print medium. Can be please end-of-life it in web browsers the same way we've done for Flash?

      No. PDF has no widely used alternative for what it provides PDF in the browser means every OS ships with function to read and print it. You don't want to use a PDF, don't click a PDF link. But don't remove functionality from a system without having a widely used alternative in place.

      Also no, PDF is not a bigger security risk. Certain bugs in PDF readers are a security risk. By-n-large they haven't been the browsers themselves. Also PDF is actively developed and patched, Flash is not, so by that nature alone

      • According to periodical security reports by the major anti-virus/security companies, PDF has consistently ranked higher than Flash in security vulnerabilities. You can look them up for yourself.

        Again, "Printable Document Format" (PDF) is designed for printing, on paper, by a printer that's connected to you computer (or your local reprographics centre if you refuse to own a printer because they were sent from hell to annoy us). PDF is inappropriate for viewing on computers. People stuck in the 1990s & th

        • Portable Document Format
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
          While "Printable Document Format" appears on a number of web pages I can't find any citation that that's what it actually stood for. Any document format is "printable".

          If you do a time-constrained search from 1990-2000 on Google for the term "Printable Document Format" (with quotes) you only get 6 total hits, and two of those are from a BMX racing magazine. If you instead seach for 1990-2000 for the misheard term "Doggy Dog World" (a mutation of dog e

          • Ah, I stand corrected, it's "portable": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

            As I've mentioned a few times above, there are some legitimate uses for PDF as there were for Flash. Taken to similar extremes as Flash, how about websites entirely in PDF? Why put what are essentially essays or blog articles in PDF format? You have to agree that there are a lot of inappropriate uses of PDF out there & they're particularly inconvenient, sometimes prohibitively so, for mobile devices/small screens, e.g. people who

        • And, seriously, people don't send PDFs because they're stuck in the 1990s, they send PDFs because that's the format they can be the most sure will get to their recipient without being horribly garbled.

          Have you tried working on MS Word documents in Google Docs for example. The nightmares.

          • Have you tried signing something, or securing a word document against edits? PDFs have many uses, none of which have to do with some legacy.

        • PDF has consistently ranked higher than Flash in security vulnerabilities. You can look them up for yourself.

          You missed my point: A high security vulnerability in an actively maintained and patched system is orders of magnitude less severe than a low security vulnerability in software that is end of life and no longer maintained.

          Also if you're going to quote what PDF stands for like some expert it helps to be correct: "Portable" is the first word. Funny enough a lot of the things I access on the internet are designed for being moved from one area to the other, a lot of the documents that move around the internet d

          • Yes, PDF = "portable document format" - I stand corrected on that point.

            I can tell you've never stood in front of a very quiet refinery desperately looking for an odd value in some manual (which are printed media normally and thus typically available online in PDF) and all you have in front of you is your phone and an angry plant manager telling you how many 1000s of dollars every second is costing.

            This is another point. The reams of paper info that's been lazily scanned & not even OCR-ed so it isn't searchable & you can't quickly copy, paste, & collate useful info from it (I sometimes have to synthesise research-informed reports & recommendations & many older research papers are like this, later ones are PDF only but at least have embedded text, & only more recent ones are available as HTML). How many researchers, consultants, teachers & students have to put up with this s

            • not even OCR-ed so it isn't searchable

              Most old documents had things such as indexes or tables of contents that can help you.

              How about instead of defending how things are now & that you've reconciled yourself with their shortcomings, asking how could things be better for the majority?

              I'm waiting for your kind donation to help us digitise the old world with all the requirements to suit your modern life. I'm waiting for you to sell your ideas to government and government institutions, to surpass the old systems with new tech. I'm waiting for you to fund a new open source format that suits your fancy millennial desires while at the same time offers traceability and signing in a standardised and universall

  • And switching between tabs in Most Recently Used order (you know, the way Windows is switching between tasks) is now supported.

    If not, thank god, there are Opera, Firefox.

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