Ask Slashdot: Is TSA's PreCheck System Easy To Game? 157
OverTheGeicoE writes "TSA has had a preferred traveler program, PreCheck, for a while now. Frequent fliers and other individuals with prior approval from DHS can avoid some minor annoyances of airport security, like removing shoes and light jackets, but not all of the time. TSA likes to be random and unpredictable, so PreCheck participants don't always get the full benefits of PreCheck. Apparently the decision about PreCheck is made when the boarding pass is printed, and a traveler's PreCheck authorization is encoded, unencrypted, on the boarding pass barcode. In theory, one could use a barcode-reading Web site (like this one, perhaps) to translate a barcode into text to determine your screening level before a flight. One might even be able to modify the boarding pass using PhotoShop or the GIMP to, for example, get the screening level of your choice. I haven't been able to verify this information, but I bet Slashdot can. Is TSA's PreCheck system really that easy to game? If you have an old boarding pass lying around, can you read the barcode and verify that the information in TFA is correct?"
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Yes it is.
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Re:Yes (Score:5, Interesting)
Way to get every /. member on the no fly list.
It's probably dangerous to even comment on this article. It's probably a Homeland SecurityTSA sting.
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If the guys at the TSA haven't even bothered to get other government security experts like the guys at the NSA to review their strategy and how these tickets are encoded, it seems like these guys need a few basic lessons in computer science and should go back to college as freshmen.
As a sting, this is pretty hopeless.
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As a sting, this is pretty hopeless.
Naah, just needs the right media spin.
"A renegade group considered to be 'The Apostles of Bruce Schneier' were caught plotting to manipulate airline tickets for domestic flights.. TSA cavity search and film at 11...."
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No it's a cash grab... we need a trillion dollars to encrypt the barcodes.
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... and should go back to college as freshmen.
What makes you think they went to college before being hired at the TSA?
I'm talking about the guys who designed this system... but you might be right about the "software experts' who designed this system. I question if they even bothered taking lessons at Khan Academy or Code Academy.
Re:Yes (Score:5, Funny)
Did you notice, how I was able to get in "at the front of the line" on this discussion thread?
Re:Yes (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes it is.
Wrong question is being asked
A better question is -- Would it matter if TSA PreCheck System were easy to game?
Seeing how TSA has no record of ever catching or thwarting a terrorist, I would say "no"
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Seeing how TSA has no record of ever catching or thwarting a terrorist, I would say "no"
Well, they're semi-effective at catching TSA employees who steal iPads, laptops and expensive camera gear.
I mean, the thought of some low-level thug making off with a $1k piece of glass terrifies the hell out of me.
Re:Yes (Score:5, Interesting)
Well, they're semi-effective at catching TSA employees who steal iPads, laptops and expensive camera gear.
No, they're not. There are occasional busts, but most go unreported or unaddressed.
Fun fact: The TSA refuses to report such thefts to local authorities, as a matter of policy.
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Re:Yes (Score:5, Insightful)
Wrong question is being asked
A better question is -- Would it matter if TSA PreCheck System were easy to game?
Seeing how TSA has no record of ever catching or thwarting a terrorist, I would say "no"
No, neither question is really relevant. It doesn't matter if the system is easy to game for someone with technical aptitude because this whole system isn't really about making travel more secure, but conditioning people to be more complacent about government intrusion and restriction on their daily lives.
Re:Yes (Score:5, Informative)
" this whole system isn't really about making travel more secure, but conditioning people to be more complacent about government intrusion and restriction on their daily lives."
DING DING DING DING DING!
Ladies and gentlemen, please lower your bids. We have a winner.
Re:Yes (Score:4, Insightful)
this whole system isn't really about making travel more secure, but conditioning people to be more complacent about government intrusion and restriction on their daily lives.
Parallel to that, army and police have been having Zombie Apocalypse training lately. Training them to fight crowds of unarmed human-shaped figures. Considering the lack of real zombies, I wonder what that's supposed to condition the army and police for...
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Regards, Capt Me
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SAN DIEGO -- Move over vampires, goblins and haunted houses, this kind of Halloween terror aims to shake up even the toughest warriors: An untold number of so-called zombies are coming to a counterterrorism summit attended by hundreds of Marines, Navy special ops, soldiers, police, firefighters and others to prepare them for their worst nightmares. "This is a very real exercise, this is not some type of big costume party," said Brad Barker, president of Halo Corp, a security firm hosting the Oct. 31 training demonstration during the summit at a 44-acre Paradise Point Resort island on a San Diego bay. "Everything that will be simulated at this event has already happened, it just hasn't happened all at once on the same night. But the training is very real, it just happens to be the bad guys we're having a little fun with."
Hundreds of military, law enforcement and medical personnel will observe the Hollywood-style production of a zombie attack as part of their emergency response training.
In the scenario, a VIP and his personal detail are trapped in a village, surrounded by zombies when a bomb explodes. The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies. At one point, some members of the team are bit by zombies and must be taken to a field medical facility for decontamination and treatment.
Source. [huffingtonpost.com]Bombs... bullets, hmm, looks like those aren't unnarmed human shapes. It's just a "standard" tactical simulation with the "fun" twist that the bad guys are dressed up to look like zombies. So ... looks like you might be having a bit of a paranoid fantasy there sir.
If that's not the event you're talking about, perhaps you should add a citation to support your extreme claim.
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[...] conditioning people to be more complacent about government intrusion and restriction on their daily lives.
Is that *really* what you think is happening? I'm a Brit and haven't been to the US for a while now so may well be talking out of my 'bum' ... but for that to be the case it suggests that someone, somewhere in the upper echelons of your government has taken an explicit decision that that is what they are trying to do.
I accept that the results make it feel more and more like a police state when you fly, but don't think the cause can be attributed to anything more than incompetence and laziness. As in: 'He
Re:Yes (Score:4, Interesting)
DING!
Some people see a monster and need to believe that someone (even someone hostile to them) is holding its leash.
The truth is somewhat scarier: that the continual growth of oppressive-yet-useless security apparatus like the TSA is an emergent property of power, fear, and greed.
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And this has what to do with the government? Answer: Nothing.
Media is all about blowing things out of proportion in order to deliver more viewers, in order to sell more advertising, in order to make more $$$$$
Grandparent was spot on.
Re:Yes (Score:5, Insightful)
I am not a fan of the TSA, but let's be fair here: the purpose of doing security checks is not to catch terrorists with bombs in their shoes, but rather to eliminate shoe-bombing as a viable form of attack.
The problem is, there are a large (but not technically infinite) number of such attacks. With the TSA only re-acting to the threat as it is used, that means there are (largeNum -1) attacks remaining. So, with such a large number of attacks to choose from, any terrorist would have no problem with the TSA.
In other words, the TSA only started checking shoes after someone tried to hide a bomb in one. The TSA only started their asinine 3-1-1 liquid rules after a liquid bomb plot was uncovered. And no doubt, the TSA will start rectal exams after a terrorist shoves a bomb up their ass.
Responding to the PREVIOUS threat is not security.
Re:Yes (Score:4, Insightful)
The TSA is still doing it completely wrong. You don't try to find weapons or dangerous items, you try to find dangerous people.
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What would be your response if a liquid bomb threat was discovered and then the TSA did nothing to screen for it? Everyone would be screaming their heads off that the TSA should be checking for known threats. It is absurd to try to claim that the TSA airport checks are not security.
Not everybody is screaming for increased authority being given to the TSA to declare martial law in airports. Too far? I think it was too far on September 10th, 2001, as the security procedures in pace prior to the 9/11 attacks should have stopped those terrorists from getting on board those planes in the first place as well as stopping even the shoe bomber.
These guys are simply being lousy rent-a-cops that really don't know the first thing about how to act as a law enforcement agency in a once free representative democracy. It is sad that they can't simply act like almost every other police agency acting outside of those airports and *gasp* actually investigate crimes when they happen, to do gum shoe detective work, and root out would be criminals who might be causing problems. I also think this "zero tolerance" for terrorist actions is maddening as well.
The real issue here is that stupid people do stupid things. We can't afford to have TSA level security in malls, public schools, banks, or elsewhere. Certainly not in bus stations or on freeways. In reality we can't afford to have this in airports either, but some stupid congressmen had a knee jerk reaction to a non-problem and didn't really address the issues involved either... trading one form of corruption for another.
What the TSA should be doing is real security and police work in airports. There may even be a need to keep it a federal agency, so far as threats to airport security typically do cross state borders and even become international problems. There are even national security issues involved so far as there are foreign governments who are using "terrorist groups" as surrogates to cause chaos and disorder deliberately in an attempt to further their own national goals. Yes, I'm saying that Al-Queida and other similar groups are not merely spontaneous but rather are supported, financed by, and encouraged by many countries (almost all of whom have seats at the United Nations along with national capitals and recognizable leaders) and this is a real war going on.
If these doughnut loving idiots would get off their behinds, turn off their scanning machines, and actually do some real police work to find those people who are causing problems... then I might be encouraged by the work that the TSA is doing. For now, I consider them to be lazy asses that are wasting billions of tax dollars on a futile exercise that won't stop a real terrorist attack in America by somebody determined to cause problems. This security theater is utter bullshit and needs to stop. If there is a real threat that soliders or mercenaries from foreign governments are coming into America... they should also be stopped. But it should be painfully obvious who they are as well and stopping those foreign soldiers from committing acts of war inside of America can be done without infringing on the rights of ordinary citizens or molesting toddlers.
Re:Yes (Score:4, Insightful)
What would be your response if a liquid bomb threat was discovered and then the TSA did nothing to screen for it? Everyone would be screaming their heads off that the TSA should be checking for known threats. It is absurd to try to claim that the TSA airport checks are not security.
The checks are security... security theater that is. They don't work. They don't catch terrorists. They don't prevent terrorists from trying something else.
You mention the liquid bomb incident. First of all, the liquids were not even meant to be taken aboard an airplane. They could have been though and that started the scare. Now, the sensible rules would be such, that it would be impossible to bring enough liquid aboard to create a bomb that could do any worthwhile damage. But no. The rules allow for one liter of liquid to be brought aboard and any half-decent explosives expert could tell you that it takes less than 200 ml of some liquid explosives to create a bomb that could bring down the aircraft. So we've ended up with a worthless rule that doesn't work, but which cause lots of inconvenience and hassle for the traveler. That's security theater - if it's REALLY annoying it must be REALLY effective...
Sure, you can't bring enough liquid explosive to blow a hole in the universe but you can still drop the plane on a major city, and that's usually enough for most terrorists.
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What would be your response if a liquid bomb threat was discovered and then the TSA did nothing to screen for it? Everyone would be screaming their heads off that the TSA should be checking for known threats. It is absurd to try to claim that the TSA airport checks are not security.
The checks are security... security theater that is. They don't work. They don't catch terrorists. They don't prevent terrorists from trying something else.
You mention the liquid bomb incident. First of all, the liquids were not even meant to be taken aboard an airplane. They could have been though and that started the scare. Now, the sensible rules would be such, that it would be impossible to bring enough liquid aboard to create a bomb that could do any worthwhile damage. But no. [...]
Especially when it takes about 30 seconds worth of thought to get around such a ban. Contact lens solution? Ok. Baby formula? Ok. 1 Liter of bottled water not purchased from a blessed vendor inside the security fence? Nice try, terrerrist, you just leave that right here.
In February 2002, I was in Boston for work and finished up a day early. At the airline counter I was told that for security reasons, I was not allowed to fly standby on a day other than the day for which my ticket was issued. Without
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What would be your response if a liquid bomb threat was discovered and then the TSA did nothing to screen for it? Everyone would be screaming their heads off that the TSA should be checking for known threats. It is absurd to try to claim that the TSA airport checks are not security.
Wasn't the whole liquid bomb threat debunked anyway? I recall seeing a chemist on TV claiming it wasn't even feasible.
Re:Yes (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm not a fan of TSA either, but this seems like an unfair standard. How many criminals has the lock on your home door stopped?
The role of a lock on a front door or for that matter an automobile is to keep "the honest people honest". In other words, it is there to stop a 70 year old partially senile old woman from driving off with your car or walking into your house at odd hours because they got lost or confused. It reminds an otherwise honest person that they have gone too far and should likely turn back.
A uniformed officer walking around an airport with a radio and a gun works just fine to do that kind of security to protect passengers, staff, and crew from ordinary civil disorder, where they may have to call in some backup if some guys are getting a bit too rowdy at a restaurant bar or some group of people being too pushy trying to board an airplane. "Ordinary" crimes like assault, murder, and perhaps pickpockets and purse snatchers are legitimate things for a security force to try and keep under control.
Trying to keep some group of idiots who are determined to go postal and start killing random people in some manner is much harder to stop... assuming they can even be identified. Soldiers or mercenaries (however you define those terms) who are acting in the interest of a foreign government and trying to disguise as civilians in an attempt to perform acts of war (this is my own definition of terrorism) seems to be a larger problem... but there are ways to deal with such nations as well. Curtailing civil liberties and molesting grandmothers or toddlers is not a way to get that to happen.
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You can submit barcodes to an online reader as a scanned PNG now.
Don't even need specialised hardware.
Re:Yes (Score:4, Informative)
Unless you want to give all your flight details to some random web server operator, you're better off installing something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/zbar/ [sourceforge.net] and decoding yourself.
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It's intended to build acceptance for a system where we discriminate against certain groups of people
I'm sorry, but unless America want to keep wasting BILLIONS of dollars on security theatre, then sooner or later this is what is going to need to happen. You need to treat people differently. You need to treat a granny flying economy class with a return ticket to Oklahoma at Christmastime differently from a 22-year-old-male with a first-class one-way ticket on a transatlantic flight paid for in cash.
Probably, but watch out for the Audit. (Score:2, Interesting)
From what I've read, it would be fairly easy to re-encode your boarding pass to have pre-clearence approval on it. It is just changing a bit on the barcode. Remember, this is matched against your ID and logged. Sure you might get waved on the flight, but I would be shocked to find out anyone that tries this gets in serious trouble. Still doesn't stop the terrorist passenger but might catch people fast enough to honeypot dry runs.
Re:Probably, but watch out for the Audit. (Score:5, Informative)
There is a very good DefCon talk on youtube about barcodes and how easy they are to scam. It's so trivial to encrypt the data in a barcode but of course TSA has spared every expense in the defence of america.
Here's the DefCon talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT_gwl1drhc [youtube.com]
The TSA does NOT print the BP (Score:2)
Re:Probably, but watch out for the Audit. (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually, if they have any common sense, they'd verify the barcode read from the ticket to the barcode stored in the airline DB when the ticket was printed. Modifying it would be a huge red flag.
But as we all know, the TSA has no common sense. I've considered it mind numbingly stupid that every time I've gone through an airport since 9/11, the super-duper-secure TSA checkpoint (ha!) doesn't check that my boarding pass actually corresponds to a real ticket issued. We're not talking about anything amazingly high tech, except a barcode reader, and network connection to verify against the airline(s) systems.
The only place that it's cross referenced is boarding, and even that is only most of the airlines I fly. I've been on a few that still just tear the paper boarding pass, and let you on. No verification or anything. At least not before the plane departs. I've been early (just like they ask you to), so I've watched them scanning used boarding passes minutes to hours after the flight leaves. I'm sure we're not suppose to observe procedure, even though it's done right in front of us.
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I've always thought this would be an easy way to fly on a ticket issued in another name. But in the past two years, I've seen one instance of TSA agents randomly asking people in line at the gate for their boarding passes. I wondered if that flight was flagged for some reason or just a slow day at security.
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No, it's so you can skip the TSA stripsearch once you have a legitimate ticket.
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Here in Canada, at least at major airports like Pearson [Toronto] for the past couple of years security has been scanning boarding passes and matching that with photo ID.
Incorrect. CATSA scans your boarding pass at security to make sure you're in the right place, but they don't ask for ID - The ID check happens when you board. In the US, they don't ask for ID when you board a domestic flight, as the TSA has already checked your ID when you passed through security.
Could be a honeypot (Score:5, Interesting)
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I think its more the "why" rather then the "how" that TSA would be interested in.
Re:Could be a honeypot (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah, and the "who".
Their thought: "hey, well catch the bad guys who are trying to get around security!"
Reality: they catch the nerds who know how to hack barcodes and want to save 10 minutes of waiting in a security line.
But this is giving them too much credit. They are not thinking that far ahead. They are still stuck on shoe bombs (22 Dec 2001).
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They're stuck on the shoe bombing, because that's the only somewhat viable event that's happened in years.
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Re:Could be a honeypot (Score:4, Funny)
I just came back from a trip this last weekend. I had a 8 or 10 oz bottle of foot powder in my carry on. It flagged them for a double check. The TSA agent removed the bottle, sent the bag back through, it passed, and stuck the foot powder back in the bag.
I'm no chemist, physicist, or XRay machine technician/operator, so I don't know if a bottle of white foot powder shows up differently than a bottle of cocaine. But I have a feeling it doesn't.
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Forget swallowing or stuffing the c4. The new fear is surgical insertion of explosives. Body bombs. Check out these links:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/13/al-qaeda-s-body-bombs-al-asiri-s-next-threat.html [thedailybeast.com]
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/officials-fear-terrorists-body-bombs-us-bound-planes/story?id=16245827 [go.com]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18161870 [bbc.co.uk]
Re:Could be a honeypot (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually, nothing.
If it's a bad guy doing it, they'll have a number trying to go through. The ones with flagged boarding passes will turn around and go home. The ones with clean boarding passes will continue through, smile, and say "thank you" to the TSA people (s)he encounters.
Anyone with any remotely planned mission will have such things in place, and already be ready for them. Send 5 guys in with tickets. A few will get caught. Some won't. Remember the recent tests where only 25% of the weapons passed through x-ray were caught. 5 people means 1 or 2 will get caught. Those odds can be improved if they synchronize someone who *will* get caught. It will draw attention away from the others who they want to make it.
I've observed that happening more than once. Someone gets stopped for having something "nefarious", like a bottle of water, or knitting needles. They make noise, more TSA employees go to guard, and now the rest of the lines are understaffed, and more will be waved through unmolested.
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This is way to simple not to have been done before, someone will have actually used it and unless they have rushed off to gitmo i would guess its undetectable.
I could understand why they might want local authentication but they should at least be able hand out keys to airlines for each airport and encrypt it using the key for the airport you are departing from.
Re:Could be a honeypot (Score:4, Interesting)
If I were designing a security system for TSA, I would definitely consider printing a (possibly fake) screening status in the barcode in plain text. If you keep a database of what status you assigned to which boarding ticket, then you can more thoroughly screen (or arrest and jail indefinitely) anyone who changes the easily hackable obvious screening status on their boarding pass.
This is an interesting point, but what does any of this have to do with catching terrorists? Now TSA will detain people who mess with barcodes and claim them to be terrorists?
To extend your line of thought -- If _I_ were designing a security system for TSA (an organization that has never caught a terrorist on its own accord), I too would make up an easily game-able system so that TSA can actually arrest some people and then trump such arrests as success and therefore request more funding.
It would be a lot cheaper and just as efficient to go back to pre-9-11 security and invest in an "anti-terrorism rock" for contractors (if contractors must be funded by this).
Re:Could be a honeypot (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Could be a honeypot (Score:5, Interesting)
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Bruce Schneier has the habit of meeting journalists who want to interview him inside the "secure" part of the airport and sending them fake boarding pass to print themselves
While I agree much of TSA is security threatre, I suspect this trick is coming to an end. Most checkpoints now have bar code scanners which confirm the validity of the boarding pass.
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I agree that the system could be secure, but it is not
In the case of boarding passes I don't think it ever can be. If you want to access the gates, but not fly, just buy a fully-refundable ticket and don't board the flight. This trick is used from time to time by frequent flyers who want to access an airline lounge for an airline they're not flying on a given day.
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I agree that the system could be secure, but it is not
In the case of boarding passes I don't think it ever can be. If you want to access the gates, but not fly, just buy a fully-refundable ticket and don't board the flight. This trick is used from time to time by frequent flyers who want to access an airline lounge for an airline they're not flying on a given day.
You can also get a "gate pass" to accompany people to the gate - often done with young family members or people with mobility or other health issues. It is probably not difficult to use some "social engineering" skills to get one of those printed up for you by the airline in situations where it is not actually warranted.
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"(For those who don't know, a honeypot is an easily hackable machine that serves no purpose except to be hacked so that an observer can find folks who are trying to break in.)"
Kind of like this thread.
Could be white hats 'crowdsourcing' (Score:2)
This could be someone in the Federal Government's bright idea...I'm thinking some guy doing a powerpoint talking about 'utilizing the open-source security community'
They might have even used the word 'crowdsourcing' or 'hacktivist'...
If true, I hope their plan works...the fed's geeks are the bottom third of the talent pool using arcane intelligence systems
I say this in light of this article: "Want a security pro? For starters, get politically incorrect and understand geek culture" [networkworld.com]
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Stop it? Don't be silly.
They've added to it.
dupe (Score:3, Insightful)
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If this sounds a little familiar, well, it is...
http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/10/24/2222225/ [slashdot.org]
There is a difference between this article and the previous one. the question is: do they compare their database with the boarding card to see if it has been altered? The only way to check this would be to check the boarding card, Photoshop/gimp the barcode, go through the TSA theatre with the altered card and see what happens.
I would not want to try this myself. I think most people here have a fairly dim view of the TSA, so I wouldn't put it past them not to compare the card with the database, but there ma
looked into it (Score:2, Interesting)
I looked into it, but it turns out that modifying a boarding pass is a felony.
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So is strapping on an exploding vest.
This happens a lot. In response governments like to make more things illegal.
The thing is criminals doing really bad things generally don't mind a little extra dishonesty or a crime that's way less bad than whatever they're trying to do.
All it ever does is make life harder for normal people.
Re:looked into it (Score:5, Insightful)
Copying and/or modifying is fairly safe, trying to pass it off as the original is when it gets dangerous.
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And since when has that stopped people modifying/copying hardware, software, music, or legal documents?
When there has been a good chance of getting caught and prosecuted.
No brainer (Score:3)
Store a list of generated barcodes. Sure its big. Its also a very trivial lookup.
If yours doesn't match what's in the DB, prepare for the anal probes.
Or am I crediting the TSA with too many competent technicians ?
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Technicians? You don't know how it's done in government. Namely, they can don't do anything themselves -- savings and personnel cuts, you understand, of course. Technology is contracted out. Thus they'd need to award some contractor company a project worth a couple million USD to do this. Perhaps even a couple dozen million. TSA, just as any govt. agency, has occasional competent people on board, but they can't do squat, most of the time.
Why the hell would you even want to try? (Score:5, Interesting)
These people are lazy. They're annoying, and they're a blight to society. However, for the time being we're all stuck with them until the rest of the general population rises up and says "We've had enough, out you go!".
So I ask you this- even if the system is "easy to game", why the hell would you want to risk it? Maybe you get past their security once, twice, a dozen times, etc. Maybe it is easy to game. That's nice and all.
The question you should be asking yourself is: "What are the consequences of being caught?". These people will happily label you as a terrorist and put you on a no-fly list FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. You think you have legal rights, that they can't do that? They have and they will. Have fun spending the next 5 years of your life debating the finer details of the law in court so you can continue to fly down to Hawaii with the family on occasion for vacation.
It doesn't matter that their system is broken, or that the whole thing is a security theatre and a complete and utter farce. It matters what they're going to do to you when they find out you've been tampering with the system. If you make them look like idiots, their reaction will be to label you as a nefarious terrorist or hacker who was out to get the TSA and thank god they eventually stopped you because who knows what you would have done if they hadn't.
So are you **really** willing to live with the consequences of tampering with the system? Or are you just talking big because someone said the TSA was hackable and now it's all cool and hip to point that out to other people and pretend like you're actually gonna go ahead and do it?
Re:Why the hell would you even want to try? (Score:5, Interesting)
Which is probably about half an hour for most of the people who would likely be trying to game the system. And that is why it is the responsibility of security researchers and other folks to point out the flaws in the system and to make the TSA look like idiots at every possible opportunity. It is their civic duty, as they represent the only remaining hope that the TSA will either go away or become useful.
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It is their civic duty, as they represent the only remaining hope that the TSA will either go away or become useful.
They can only become useful by going away.
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Nonsense. You're only saying that because none of them ever have. :-D
I'll take some of that! (Score:3)
one could use a barcode-reading Web site (like this one, perhaps) to translate a barcode into text to determine your screening level before a flight. One might even be able to modify the boarding pass using PhotoShop or the GIMP to, for example, get the screening level of your choice.
Yes, I'd like to board an airline flight with a forged boarding pass , and all the privileges that come with it!
Barcode reading website? (Score:2)
What century is this? Presumably the poster is the only person on Slashdot who doesn't have a smartphone with a barcode reader built in.
Re:Barcode reading website? (Score:5, Insightful)
> What century is this?
It's the 21st century. You know, that century where not every Slashdot reader has a smartphone, and the majority of smartphones don't come with a built-in barcode reader, and reading barcodes is mostly pointless enough that the majority of users haven't installed a barcode reader.
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I might similarly presume that you're really the only person on Slashdot who bothered to install a barcode reader into their smartphone.
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All right, I'll bite.
The open source zxing barcode reader for Android alone has 50-100 million installs from the Play market. RedLaser has 1-5 million, and ShopSavvy has 10-50 million. That's just on Android, and doesn't include side-loads direct from the websites in question.
Now sure, Angry Birds has 100-500 million installs, so barcode reading software may not be quite as popular, but to assume that any bored geek with a smart phone who wanted to check their boarding pass barcode would go to their neare
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Google Goggles also does a nice job with barcodes.
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the phones/plans cost too much, are too restrictive, and frankly, my needs arent so pressing that i cant wait to use the net access at my house or work.
Easy to Read, not sure easy to change (Score:5, Informative)
Look the code to determine pre-check is in the clear and easy to read. What's not obvious is if it's also easy to change. There is a base-64 message below all the normal data that seems to decode to a hash. I would expect that this hash is protecting the integrity of the data above. No one I have seen has modified their barcode and presented it to the TSA. So while there is speculation that it is easy to change, there is no proof and some mild evidence that says this may not be so.
Re:Easy to Read, not sure easy to change (Score:5, Insightful)
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Or you could just get a job as a TSA agent and wheel a huge suitcase sized bomb right past security and onto the plane.
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Barcode-reading Web site? (Score:3)
In theory, one could use a barcode-reading Web site ...
That is so 1990s. I use NeoReader [neoreader.com] on my iPhone. It's available for Android as well.
Boarding Passes with PDF417 barcodes (Score:4, Interesting)
My boarding passes seem to have PDF417 barcodes on them. I've tried several but haven't found an Android app that'll read them yet. The Android app from the airline displays a QR code boarding pass, but then I can't scan it with my phone. Anyone know an Android app that'll scan it? Or a program for Mac that'll scan a QR code from the camera? No, I'm not looking to change it, but finding out if I got the PreCheck lane would be nice in advance.
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"finding out if I got the PreCheck lane would be nice in advance"
I am sure the terrorists would love to know this as well.
Obvious Terrorist Scenario: Fly around the US enough and get PreCheck status.
Use the barcode and the decoded information to determine which flight to strap on the suicide vest.
If you don't get PreCheck, then don't wear the vest.
I sincerely hope that the the TSA is not stupid enough to leave the decoding of the PreCheck status as something as trivial as an unecoded/plain text 'bit flip' f
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You'll note I didn't say it was a good system.
The obvious answer for the problem is to scan the barcode at security, which could just be a unique identifier, and look it up in a database of who's cleared for PreCheck that day.
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I think that'd be a better system, too, as I described. I happen to know I'm not a threat, so me looking at my own boarding pass harms no one. And as others have stated, this little bit of notoriety is likely to get the system changed.
Counterfeiting (Score:3)
For your own good(s) (Score:3)
Forget preCheck or not preCheck, the real question is to know if there is a code or keyword that can be printed on the ticket to prevent TSA agents from stealing iPads and money from the luggage or from the scanner basket.
Thinking of that, maybe the TSA is actually doing a good job: I'm not afraid of hijackers anymore, I'm afraid of getting robbed by the TSA Fingermen.
Schneier (Score:5, Informative)
Begin at the beginning... (Score:2, Insightful)
An excellent point is made above - with the TSA's wholehearted embodiment of the everything-looks-like-a-nail-if-all-you've-got-is-a-hammer ethos, defrauding the system (e.g. modifying your boarding card) is probably not something you want to get in to. Being sent home instead of to Hawaii once is worth a lifetime of taking off your shoes at the airport if you ask me.
I suppose the first question would really be... can you cause the system to change your TSA barcode through "normal" behaviour? Is the TSA cod
Re:Begin at the beginning... (Score:5, Interesting)
You can always get a legit boarding pass with no extra screening, change it to extra screening, and see what happens. They can't say you tried to bypass any security measures that way :)
RFC 3514 (Score:2, Funny)
TSA has implemented the Evil Bit for terrorists.
It's not the gaming, it's the program as such (Score:2)
You don not want to institute a program which effectively creates a "low security bypass" in a security system, Whether that bypass itself is flawed is completely irrelevant, since the fact that it exists is already a security risk.
Easy to game? (Score:2)
Yes. Once you add a weak point into the system, the entire system becomes just as weak. If you allow anyone with a pilot license to walk through with a reduced check, any real criminal/terrorist will just get a license or steal one to walk through.
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It was also on Slashdot last week. Good to see that the editorial standards are as high as ever; although Timothy is sadly departed (good night, sweet prince), his fine legacy continues...
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Do you mean "signed" as in "digitally certified" as part of the acrobat format? If so, you've got to be joking. Aside from the trivially easy task of saving the file as a TIFF at a sufficiently high resolution, if your program won't do that just take a (series of) screen capture at max resolution and bring it into Photoshop or your editor of choice. The weak link is that this is getting printed on regular paper for you to take through the gate - so whatever the digital encoding is on your downloaded ticket