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Iran Blamed For Major Cyberattack On BBC 194

Posted by samzenpus
from the who's-to-blame? dept.
Qedward writes "Iran is privately being blamed for a major cyberattack on the BBC that blocked access to its popular Persian TV service and disrupted the Corporation's IT using a denial-of-service attack. The multi-pronged March 2 attack took down much of the BBC's email, overloaded its telephone switchboard with automatic phone calls, and blocked a satellite feed for the BBC Persian station. BBC servers were also on the receiving end of a DDoS. In an unprecedented tactic, the BBC has trailed a speech to be given this week to the Royal Television Society in which Director General Mark Thompson will mention the attacks in some detail while stopping short of formally naming Iran as the perpetrator."
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Iran Blamed For Major Cyberattack On BBC

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  • by elrous0 (869638) * on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @02:19PM (#39355565)

    I'd rather have countries launching lame DDoS's than launching missiles.

    And I wouldn't mind living in a world where everyone put down their guns and just started being dicks to each other on the internet instead. Besides, in that world, all us losers on /. could finally be the badass war heroes who women want to sleep with.

    Of course, most will probably just use both the internet AND their guns/missiles.

    • by cpu6502 (1960974) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @03:15PM (#39356389)

      >>>Fixing banks with less regulation is like fixing Lindsay Lohan with more cocaine.

      I agree. But the truth is the number of regulations during the Bush era increased from 110,000 to 150,000 pages. To say he "deregulated", or that it caused the housing bubble, is so far from the truth it's ridiculous.

      BTW most of those regulations are god-awful stupid, like saying a banana must have at least 15 degrees of curvature or else it must be destroyed. And labeling water bottles with, "Drinking water does not cure dehydration."

      I'm not against regulations (especially the top regulations like the Constittuion and Bill of rights which block the government from harming us). I'm against stupid regulations that drive small business owners into bankruptcy and favor the consolidation of megacorp' power. That's what Congress has been busy passing these last several years.

      • by dan828 (753380)

        BTW most of those regulations are god-awful stupid, like saying a banana must have at least 15 degrees of curvature or else it must be destroyed. And labeling water bottles with, "Drinking water does not cure dehydration."

        That was the EU that came up with those lovelies. Give credit where credit is due.

      • by rtechie (244489)

        > BTW most of those regulations are god-awful stupid,

        No, most of those regulations keep the food you buy in the grocery store from killing you. Read "The Jungle". If it wasn't for modern food inspection and regulation you'd be getting food poisoning at least once a month because that was exactly the case before modern regulation. Several of your relatives would have dies from food poisoning.

        Most people that want to eliminate food and drug regulation are either too young or too stupid to remember the situ

    • And I wouldn't mind living in a world where everyone put down their guns and just started being dicks to each other on the internet instead.

      Just started? Dude, by your definition World War 3 has been raging for the last 20 years!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @02:24PM (#39355639)

    Too easy to blame some country or entity for attacks these days. What proof do they have that it was Iran? It might have been someone else in the Arab region who wants to see Iran and Israel go at it because they benefit from higher oil prices due to a regional conflict, or that someone else is doing the dirty work for them.

  • Iran itself? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by mr100percent (57156)

    Why are they saying Iran did it? Are they saying the country's leadership ordered it rather than a bunch of script kiddies? If anything, wouldn't it be more accurate to say Iranians did it than the country itself? It seems /. keeps lumping countries together, as if all China pirates or hacks etc.

  • Pure propaganda. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Beelzebud (1361137) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @02:28PM (#39355705)
    Anyone else sick of these re-runs? For the past month the anti-Iranian propaganda has really ratcheted up. We're seeing the same tactics they used to scare the public in to supporting an invasion of Iraq.
      • by cpu6502 (1960974) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @02:55PM (#39356085)

        Therefore we should cut-off food and starve 1 million Iranians just like we starved 1 million Iraqis during the 1990s embargo. And when that doesn't work (because it won't), we should bomb the hell out of them and kill (or maim) another 1 million innocent men, women, and children like we did in Iraq in 2002 to 2011.

        Why don't we listen to the head of Israel's Mossad who said, "Iran is not an existential threat to us." Therefore there's no need for us to go over there and start starving or outright killing people. I don't understand this desire of the U.S. or its people to hold the record for the most corpses created during the last three decades. It reminds me of how another nation circa 1931 to 39. (No not Germany..... Japan in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam because they needed oil and natural resources.)

      • by Kittenman (971447)
        Just a comment - you've cited yourself, USA Today, Wikipedia and the UK newspaper the Guardian as sources. Hmmm. Not the most reliable sources for detailed analysis (possible exception of the 'Guardian' - but that used to be known as the Gruniad owing to the number of misprints). And USA Today? I thought that was mainly a weather map?

        And I agree with the OP - we are being prepared for trouble with Iran. Demonize the enemy is Warfare 101. I don't think either the OP or myself would defend Iran as a

        • Well, I'd say this: I'm not really "citing" anything; I could have said that comment without any links at all, but included them for background. That said:

          — The usatoday.com link is an Associated Press story, and one that has been heavily covered by other wire services.
          — The wikipedia article is merely a handy list of easily-referenced UN Security Council resolutions — need I link them?
          — I didn't "cite" myself, and that post includes its own references; I included it because if I did

          • Do you understand that it's possible for other players in the world to do things that we and our allies view as "bad things" for whatever reason, and thus want to stop them?

            Yes. However, painting yourself into a corner that requires war is probably the worst way to go about resolving "bad things". I can tell you that the ramifications of a war with Iran will be far worse than what we experienced with Iraq. As a result, the threat of war better have some meaningful reason. And working towards a nuke ain't it.

            As for your comment about Voltaire - I find it doubly ironic. You pretty much spend the entire post discussing varying levels of "truths", and end up basically saying that

        • And I agree with the OP - we are being prepared for trouble with Iran.

          Its awfully big of you to overlook the truck bombs that the Iranians occasionally have delivered to Americans or American allies to clear out a market place or appartment building of breathing people.

      • Great post. Even worse, if they get the world they wish for then Iran has nukes and using their usual pattern, maintains plausible deniability while their agents (Hezbollah et al) sow terror around the world (just as Iranian agents have been operating recently in Georgia, India and Thailand, and formerly in Argentina). Even worse, because Iran has nukes all the other countries in the region decide they must have them (the Arabs and Persians *really* do not like each other). That would be a clusterfsck on a

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by NeutronCowboy (896098)

        Oh hi - I was wondering where you had gone to. Seems not much has changed. Still supporting government jack boots in all their forms.

        Note sure what you're trying to show with your two posts, because they pretty much make the case that
        a) we're seeing the same exact events unfold now with Iran that unfolded with Iraq
        b) the US position on Iraqi WMDs has been conclusively shown to be wrong

        You can try to argue all you want that "the truth pointed to WMDs", but the actual truth was that Iraq didn't have nukes (on

      • by rtechie (244489)

        The USA and Israel stand completely alone in wanting to bomb Iran. The vast majority of Western democratic nations oppose a bombing campaign against Iran and consider Iran's quest for nuclear power legitimate. And the US doesn't give a crap about democracy in the Middle East. The US continues to back vicious Arab dictators against popular liberal democratic opposition movements throughout the Middle East. The US explicitly backs the torture and murder of prisoners in these nations, all of whom are far less

    • Re:Pure propaganda. (Score:5, Informative)

      by AmiMoJo (196126) <mojo@NOspaM.world3.net> on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @02:43PM (#39355917) Homepage

      And it's not like we are doing far worse - assassinations and overt spying with drones, plus at least two targeted computer viruses.

      This could just be the Iranian equivalent of Anonymous, just because the attacks appear to come from Iran doesn't mean "Iran" did it.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by daveschroeder (516195) *

        Is there a world where you can imagine that the US would actually do something right (including exercise force), or that Iran might actually be doing something wrong?

        Or is this just all an intellectual exercise in moral relativism, where the US is always "in the wrong" or that any other nation has a "right" to do whatever they wish?

        Why must this be obviously NOT an Iranian cyber attack (and attribution is admittedly anything but certain), and must instead be some kind of subterfuge?

        When the US entered World

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Ihmhi (1206036)

          Is there a world where you can imagine that the US would actually do something right (including exercise force),

          Yes. It's a daring plan I call "Operation: Stay the Fuck Out of Other Countries Because That's None of Our Goddamned Fucking Business."

          ...I have a committee working on a better name.

          • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

            by daveschroeder (516195) *

            Funny, but if you actually think the world would be a better place for humanity at large if nations throughout the last couple of centuries which have stood for principles of freedom over the alternatives did nothing, I think you'd be unpleasantly surprised at the result.

            And if you think that nations which are manifestly NOT free are isolating themselves and standing still, you'd be sadly mistaken. I'm always amused at the effects of the lens through which many view their own country, and how ignorant peopl

            • which have stood for principles of freedom

              Would you care to name a few such noble nations? I cannot recollect any. As far as I have seen, any nation that goes to war is not because it is altruistic, but because it wants to rule the world and impose its ideology on the other nation.

            • by Ihmhi (1206036)

              I think nearly anyone in the world could attack the United States and they would lose. This is not jingoism or nationalism ,it's simple practicality. We have one of the best militaries in the world, and we're buffered by two oceans and two very friendly countries.

              Trade embargoes? Sure. Pull our diplomats. Rescue American citizens held hostage. But we have absolutely no goddamn business firing missiles, dropping bombs, or otherwise assaulting other communities around the world for whatever reason.

      • by Ihmhi (1206036)

        Right, we're just as bad. We just have better P.R. and more money.

      • It's completely different. You see, our hats are white, while their hats are black.
    • Sure, but I'm not sure how effective this particular story will be to that end. "Oh mah gad! They done carried out a DDOS attack against a British news website! THIS CANNOT GO UNANSWERED! If we don't stop this menace here and now, where does it end? Next they'll be spamming the French Parliament with penis enlargement pills!! They might go so far as to order a bunch of pizzas to be delivered to the White House!"

      I mean, I guess the voters are probably actually that stupid. According to one poll, mo
    • Anyone else sick of these re-runs? For the past month the anti-Iranian propaganda has really ratcheted up. We're seeing the same tactics they used to scare the public in to supporting an invasion of Iraq.

      Hold your knee-jerk reaction horses.
      Calm the fuck down.
      And now, with a dose of articulation please try to argue why you think these claims are false. Keep in mind that the BBC is a well-respected news agency (one that actually has reporters on the ground and shit, you know, good-oldfashioned journalism), so it's not like we're just going to take your word for it, Mr. Beelzebud.

    • It's election season in the U.S., Israel, and Iran. The rhetoric is flying in all directions. I hope political pandering isn't what starts WWIII.
    • Anyone else sick of these re-runs? For the past month the anti-Iranian propaganda has really ratcheted up. We're seeing the same tactics they used to scare the public in to supporting an invasion of Iraq.

      Should we be checking your post for secret clues as to your location and who is holding you hostage and forcing you to read and post on this issue? There are plenty of other stories on the front page to read and comment on. I think most people would consider apparent state sponsored DDOS attacks to be interesting and newsworthy.

  • Iranian State Media PressTV Claims Jamming in Europe and Online http://cryptogon.com/?p=27668 [cryptogon.com] if that's true, that it was Iran, well they were just replying the cortesy....
  • I read the headline the first time and though, "Why does Iran hate good beer [bbcbrew.com]?"
  • I have moles digging through my backyard. I think Iran put them there. Damn you Iran! Damn you!

  • by VinylRecords (1292374) on Wednesday March 14, 2012 @02:36PM (#39355815)

    Nothing good is coming from any involvement between countries in the Greater Middle East and countries outside of it. Diplomacy is awful. The U.S. is waging war all over creating chaos. Humanitarian aid is handled disastrously. And any cultural exchange is met with hostility such as the BBC establishing a television channel.

    Just let that part of the world be alone by itself and cut them off completely. Don't send them money. Don't send diplomats. Don't send businesses. Encourage your citizens from touring that area. And don't ever send soldiers and bombs.

    All I hear about that part of the world when it comes to foreign relations are horror stories. The Middle East is backwards. They are regressing into even more oppressive religious states and I don't see outsiders feel like they need to be a military or cultural influence over there.

    • by Kenja (541830)
      You've clearly never had a good shawarma.
    • by vlm (69642)

      Just let that part of the world be alone by itself and cut them off completely. Don't send them money. Don't send diplomats. Don't send businesses. Encourage your citizens from touring that area. And don't ever send soldiers and bombs.

      Agreed, but we do sell censorship and wiretapping gear to them, and we like to buy oil from them, so...

    • by vlm (69642)

      Diplomacy is awful. .... Humanitarian aid is handled disastrously ... any cultural exchange is met with hostility such as the BBC establishing a television channel.... backwards.... They are regressing into even more oppressive religious states

      I reread your post and on second thought I think the US politicans hate Iran because they are on the same path as the US, just a little further along / more successful.

      Its a jealousy thing.

    • The problem is that we're addicted to using their oil. It's not like we're giving them money out of charity.

    • Encourage your citizens from touring that area.

      No. Getting to know each other is the best way to keep from killing each other.

  • False flag? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by cpu6502 (1960974)

    Was it Iran or someone else? It appears most of the hacking (and killing of nuclear power plant scientists) has been done by Israel, Britain, and the U.S.. The more I read the more I think Iran is being used as a patsy by Western warhawks:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.html?_r=2&hp [nytimes.com]

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/230303.html [presstv.ir]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet#Speculations_about_the_target_and_origin [wikipedia.org]

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1334001/Iranian-nuclear-scientist-kil [dailymail.co.uk]

    • Do you really think that the US cares about false flag operations? Bin Laden and 16 of 19 of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and we decide to declare war on Afghanistan and the Taliban. The entire UN weapons inspection team claimed that Iraq didn't have WMDs but we ignored all evidence and invaded and overthrew Saddam with no hesitation.

      If the U.S. wanted to they could declare war on Iran for an overdue library book. "We know that Iran has the book...it's overdue...we are mobilizing our infantry d

    • by poity (465672)

      The thing with conspiracy theories is that they can go anywhere. One fun thing to do is to flip everything on their head and see if that would make sense as well. For example:

      1. Stuxnet was a false flag perpetrated by Iran to gather world wide sympathy
      2. Iranian intelligence service discovered one of their "scientists" was a CIA asset that was leaking info on their nuclear program, they killed him in a manner that would frame the US/Israel and thus garner more sympathy. Two birds with one stone.
      3. The creat

  • 1) Bad Weather.
    2) Your constipation
    3) Any politicians constipation.
    4) 2012 December 21st, Iran destroys the world
    5) You burn the pizza. (Classic Peperoni too...with the real Wisconsin cheese.)
    6) The recent talk your girlfriend had with you about...that size issue.
    7) Software Bugs...any software...doesn't matter.
    8) Why ICS will never have decent apps with 15 gazillion versions running around.
    9) You lost your job.
    10) Yes, and the final reason why everything is IRAN's fault is:

    Because it has been too long sin

  • Seeing how the BBC has Iran's cock so deep down their throat it's coming out the other end like a tail. Wait wait I know the answer to this one .....they both blame the Jews......

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