Bank Accounts Vulnerable For Victims of ZeuS Trojan Variant 'Gameover' 80
tsu doh nimh writes "Organized crooks have begun launching debilitating cyber attacks against banks and their customers as part of a smoke screen to prevent victims from noticing simultaneous high-dollar cyber heists, the FBI is warning. The thefts, aided by a custom variant of the ZeuS Trojan called 'Gameover,' are followed by distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks against banks and the victim customers. The feds say the perpetrators also are wiring some of the money from victim organizations directly to high-end jewelry stores, and then sending money mules to pick up the pricey items."
Ha! Stupid criminals (Score:4, Funny)
I keep all my money in my house! Perfectly safe. No organized crooks gonna steal my money.
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Re:Ha! Stupid criminals (Score:5, Funny)
I would certainly not describe the current US government as 'organized'.
The Keystone Cops come to mind as a role model.
Re:Ha! Stupid criminals (Score:4, Informative)
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Yep, it's not like you're going to be taking a hit on the lost interest, either. When you factor in service charges, it costs you money to keep your money in a bank.
If you're paying more in charges than you're getting in interest, you're either misusing a debit card, or have too small an amount in the bank for a useful generalization.
So much for obscurity.... (Score:2)
So much for your obscure security... you just put out a press release for the whole world. You couldn't have done worse if you'd painted big bullseyes on your garage and roof - don't wanna exclude yourself from satellite view - with a red $ sign where the dot should be. *snicker*
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Yeah, but... (Score:2)
They created something truly devious in the game over trojan. We all just lost.
Still clicking the links in emails? (Score:1)
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Re:Still clicking the links in emails? (Score:5, Funny)
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I find your comment interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Think about it this way, then it will make perfect sense. Think about how ignorant the average person is, and realize that about 1/2 of the people are even more ignorant than average (for acceptable levels of average).
So yes, people still are doing stupid stuff on computers.
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Think about how ignorant people are they can not program their own space shuttle launch and all the surrounding software that goes with it! Geeze anyone should be able to do that. Yet none never bother.
That is how your post sounds. To *MOST* people computers are just some toy or tool to get things done. Not something they really want to give a crap about.
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But people do "give a crap about" their money. To imply that parting fools from their money necessitates computers is disingenuous.
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No one can program their own space shuttle launch. That's why it takes a team - even for NASA.
As for YOUR post - if you drive a car you are expected to know a) how an internal combustion engine works and what oil is for and why you should check it once in a while b) whether your car runs on diesel or gasoline/petrol c) how to change a flat tire and d) when to take your car in for service/repairs. If you don't know the preceeding, then you really shouldn't be driving a car. Likewise with computers.
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Car Analogy: "I hear, if you put a cup of sugar in your gas tank, you can get double the miles per gallon you get now"
I expect that enough people don't know enough about cars that some idiot might WANT to believe such a statement long enough to put sugar in their gas tank, HOPING to get better mileage because they do care about money.
YES, I do expect people to know about how a ICE works, enough to know that putting sugar in the gas tank is a BAD idea. That is why Social Engineering is the greatest threat to
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So by your accounting 95%+ of drivers should not be driv
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Zeus is spread mainly through drive-by downloads and phishing schemes. [wikipedia.org]
Drive-by downloads have been the primary infection vector for a while now.
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I'm unclear on the term "Drive By Download"...to me it's always meant "Stupid User Clicked Install", I don't mean to be elitist or a jerk, I just want a definition of the phrase
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No, "drive by download" means going to google, clicking on a SEO link attached to a malware site, and getting screwed over.
You're being elitist.
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Re:Still clicking the links in emails? (Score:4, Informative)
You go to a legitimate page which has been compromised, or is hosting adds and the add site has been compromised. The page attempts to exploit your browser, usually with a disclosed vulnerability. If you haven't applied that latest patch you get knocked over without clicking any links.
After any big even there are usually malicious sites near the top of the Google rankings which will attempt to exploit any one who lands on them. After the tsunami in Japan there were fake news results in the top 10 with in 2-3 hours doing this.
Re:Still clicking the links in emails? (Score:5, Informative)
SEO=Search Engine Optimized. So it's like this. Your Flash Player is a month out of date and has a secuity hole. You search for a popular term. Maybe something game related, or porn, or whatever. Bad guy has a carefully crafted page that has been SEOed to appeared fairly high in the rankings for your popular search. The exploit is in the Flash on the page. You don't have to do anything except click the link (which seems perfectly legitimate).
Of course if you've got No-script or Ad Block, you're probably fine, but most people don't use stuff like that. See above for "People expect their computers to be tools" rant. What they did might have been mildly stupid: They should upgrade their plugins, they should read links more carefully, they should use some kind of script blocker, but it falls well within what most normal users would consider reasonable. Still infected though.
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While having out of date software is asking for troubles, lately with the thriving zero-day exploit market, even performing that task is not guaranteed to protect you.
It really requires nothing more than clicking the first link in Google.
Scary world. But aside that, you can't possibly blame the person using the web for a zero day (That's addressed to you Mr GP, not the parent)
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...Of course if you've got No-script or Ad Block, you're probably fine...
Ad Block I love (actually adblock plus), but I've tried No-Script and don't have it any more. It's a great idea, but for most people, it's just too much work. Too many sites don't work properly without javascript. It's stupid and it's wrong, but that's the reality on the web. You wind up just disabling no-script before too long because yet another site doesn't work properly and you're tired of making an exception for every site, or in
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not to mention ignorant.
Its always the clever ones who think their 1337 skilz will render them immune to exploits for their out-of-date java plugin.
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A large attack vector for SEO poisoning is image searches. Unless you're running with NoScript or JS disabled, all you have to do is click on the wrong link in a random image search result, and the rest happens in the background. While you're sitting there looking at images of Martin Luther King, Jr. (and wondering why there's a photo of chocolate cake on the page as well, and one of some puppies), a multi-exploit probe script starts up in the background, quickly figures out what OS, browser and general environment you're using (think malware author's version of 'make'), and then downloads and executes an exploit path custom to your configuration.
Of course, the term "drive-by download" does also include the FakeAV stuff that automatically downloads and sits in your download folder, waiting for you to say, "hey, what's this zipfile doing in here with the 'reallysuperantivirus.exe' inside? I guess I should run it to find out!"
Re:Still clicking the links in emails? (Score:4, Interesting)
>A large attack vector for SEO poisoning is image searches
I personally ran into this while looking for flooding pictures in Warwick RI a couple of springs back.
Nearly half the Google results on the first page were SEO malware sites.
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APK is a cunt. (Score:2)
What is your major malfunction?
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Re:Still clicking the links in emails? (Score:4, Interesting)
One day, I was browsing Google Image Search, looking to identify an ambiguous connector. (it ended up being a connector from JST)
Suddenly, I'm greeted with a UAC prompt. Having done nothing to instigate a UAC prompt, I immediately killed firefox. Nonetheless, there was a rogue process on my machine that was attempting to gain root access by desperately popping up anti-virus messages. Being an intelligent user, I discovered what process was responsible and promptly killed and deleted the offending binary from my machine.
I never even clicked anything.
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You are average. You are not a computer "nerd" and are uninformed on the workings of errant programmers.
Programmers with malicious intent prey on people like you.
You could have googled "drive-by download" [google.com] in less time than it took to post, and got lots of answers.
You didn't.
You wanted someone else to do it for you.
Well, that makes sense in a way.
In the busines
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You and I might see their behavior as hypocritical and double-standardish, but they don't. I doubt we have a pin sharp enough to burst their bubble.
Anonymous? (Score:1)
off topic: Security/Wordpress (Score:1)
anonymous? (Score:1)
didnt we just have an article about anonymous threatening banks?
Crooks like these are doing it wrong. (Score:2)
On the same road (Score:2)
"Cyber heist" (Score:2)
My wife handles the banking (Score:1)
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We're all nerds here (Score:5, Informative)
Web browsers should run in a VM session that is incompatible with the host operating system on a binary level. This kind of aformentioned horseshit rarely if ever happens to everyday average normal guys just browsing the web on their Macs or Ubuntu boxes. Also, fuck it, I'm only browsing the web on a Linux image from now on on this Windows box (and just for reference the box is only used for gaming, occasionally slashdot raging)
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"Web browsers should run in a VM session"
Or just have proper isolation and not ***execute*** random code at all.
The problem with Windows is not necessarily programmers, it's the design and the expectations of its users. For some reason, if your email client doesn't automatically execute and display that Powerpoint presentation without warnings, people get annoyed. If the Flash/Java sections of a website aren't seamlessly executed as they load people think things are broken. If the executable they downloa
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I can hear the booo and hisses already, but this is a large reason why I fucking hate Windows. Let's be real here, everyone getting hacked by these knuckleheads are idiots themselves (to a degree) AND running windows.
Mmm, and it surely isn't because Windows is popular, easy, and familiar, making it much more common among the technologically illiterate. The problem isn't so much the OS, its the user.
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Reducing effect of Zeus (Score:1)
This is a nasty infection and can cause significant damage. From what I have read, Zeus can attack both users who are local admins and those that are non-admins. The difference is that the attack of non-admins is only for that user, where if the user is a local admin, every user is infected! To reduce the attack surface and reduce the overall effectiveness of Zeus, you should make all users non-admins! Software to help with that is PowerBroker Windows Desktops (www.beyondtrust.com), which runs on Windows XP