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Voice of America Site Forced Offline By 'Iranian Cyber Army' 93

Posted by timothy
from the those-are-not-scare-quotes dept.
angry tapir writes with this excerpt from TechWorld: "The pro-Iran hacktivist group that defaced the Baidu and Twitter Web sites a year ago has hit another target: the US Government's Voice of America news site. Voice of America was knocked offline temporarily after hackers were able to change the organization's DNS (Domain Name System) settings, redirecting Web traffic hitting Voice of America sites to another site controlled by the hackers."
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Voice of America Site Forced Offline By 'Iranian Cyber Army'

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  • Iran is next (Score:1, Insightful)

    by mug funky (910186)

    nice one, Iran.

    you guys are next in this revolution wave thing...

    • Anonymous? Where are you?

      • by Anonymous Coward

        They'll only do it for lulz.

      • by Anonymous Coward
        I'm right here.
    • by Tablizer (95088)

      Iran has experience putting down riots and rebellions. Don't count your chickens just yet.

    • by DesScorp (410532)

      nice one, Iran.

      you guys are next in this revolution wave thing...

      Next? Nope. The Iranian people tried "next" in 2009. They didn't get "wave". They got "dead". The Iranian government... much like the Chinese government... proved that it's willing to go to pretty much any lengths to put down uprisings. It has a huge apparatus built for just such control, literally a religious army [wikipedia.org] separate from the "regular" army, well armed, trained, and equipped. And they're fanatically devoted to preserving the Islamic revolution. Think Waffen SS, only dedicated to helping protect the I

  • Good! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Alex Belits (437) *

    US propaganda abroad -- subverting legitimate political movements to produce US puppets since WWII.

    • by lyinhart (1352173)
      Funny. If anything, VoA has been criticized for not being American enough. The running gag is that throughout its existence, VoA hadn't even created an English language version of its broadcast. Just imagine if the BBC broadcasted programs in anything but English...
      • by Alex Belits (437) *

        BBC was subjected to the same criticism. The difference is, UK no longer has imperial ambitions, and BBC ended up being superior to commercial services due to the massive whoredom of the latter far outweighing bureaucracy and bias of the former.

      • uhh... (Score:3, Insightful)

        by mevets (322601)

        The BBC is a legitimate and well respected news organization. VoA is about as close to a news organization as that Fox News Parody with Chris Wallace.

        • WTF? The BBC is a corrupt pusillanimous shade of its former self, destroyed by Tony Blair.

          All that remains is the BBC in exile, aka Al-Jazeera.

      • Re:Good! (Score:5, Interesting)

        by TubeSteak (669689) on Wednesday February 23, 2011 @02:18AM (#35287776) Journal

        Funny. If anything, VoA has been criticized for not being American enough. The running gag is that throughout its existence, VoA hadn't even created an English language version of its broadcast.

        That's because, as the GP accurately said, VoA is propaganda.
        Even the US government considers it so and, as such, it is illegal to disseminate to a US audience.
        Here's the relevant law: Smith-Mundt Act of 1946

        There was an article in Foreign Policy magazine (a year or two ago) talking about how VoA turned down a US radio station that wanted to rebroadcast some of the VoA's foreign language programs.

        I can't say for sure what, if any, law constricts the Dept of Defense, but they operate under the same "not for domestic consumption" policy.

      • by bedouin (248624)

        "Just imagine if the BBC broadcasted programs in anything but English..."

        They do, it's called BBC Arabic, Farsi, etc.

      • by treeves (963993)

        Of course there have been English broadcasts on VOA. There certainly were back when I would occasionally listen to them on shortwave (late 70s early 80s). They also had "simplified English" broadcasts to help people learn English.

    • by _Sprocket_ (42527)
      "Legitimate" being largely a measure of one's own politics.
    • Are you kidding? I would much rather have my government further its interests using words to using bombs.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    It reached far and wide with audiences all over the world, and as far as I know the radio broadcast was never hacked.

    • by FudRucker (866063)
      the VOA should have stuck to shortwave radio, with troops on the ground in both Afghanistan and Iraq i am sure the VOA could flood Iran with lots of moderately powered stations on enough different frequencies at once that Iran could not possibly jam all of them
  • by SmallFurryCreature (593017) on Wednesday February 23, 2011 @12:20AM (#35287336) Journal

    Here they are raging against the great satan intervening in Islamic countries all the time, to little effect and then voila, couple of weeks and their Muslim brothers put the entire region on fire and overthrow government after government. Some in Iran must be pissing their pants by now. The world is changing and so far NOT to the extreme. All those cries for democracy in Muslim nations, that just ain't right is it. No burning of US flags, no cries for battle against Zionists. Just cries for democracy. Crazy stuff AND it is working.

    The changes of it all working out okay are... well lets face it, nobody knows what the fuck is going to happen, if you had created a scenario in which North Africa would be in one big movement to overthrow local leaders last year, people would have told you to stop being a hollywood fantast and get a grip on reality. Just look at the map, a ribbon of rebellion and the end is not in sight. If Libya also falls... well then even outrageous violence doesn't work anymore or for that matter giving at least some of the oil wealth to the general public (Gadafhi might (now) be completely insane, but he was not as corrupt as some of his counter parts and at least the west of the country generally benefitted a bit from the oil income)

    So, lets give the Iran cyber army its last few twitches before this guy will be in front of the firing squad for his allegiance to a overthrown regime.

    • But here's the REAL irony of it all. American's (such as myself) will always espouse the great virtues of freedom and democracy. Going so far as to even overthrow a little known dictator in Iraq. But you want to know what started it's spread? Debt! Yup, that's right. Only when our financial system collapsed did it create a domino effect around the world. The nations hit the hardest are 3rd world nations and the Middle East. Only when the people have a fire lit under their ass (no jobs and lack food) will ch

    • by mjwx (966435) on Wednesday February 23, 2011 @12:49AM (#35287452)

      So, lets give the Iran cyber army its last few twitches before this guy will be in front of the firing squad for his allegiance to a overthrown regime.

      But this wont happen.

      Iran will democatise in the next 5-10 years, due entirely to a large young population that Iran's theocratic government hasn't had to deal with for the last 20 years (most of Iran's youth was wiped out in the Iran-Iraq war) but it wont be a revolution.

      Iran's government is perfectly designed to weather this kind of thing. First off, the Islamic council aren't dumb, not in the slightest. The protests in mid last year were met mainly with subterfuge and false flag operations (sound familiar). Secondly they've isolated the military and police in this. They use the Republican Guard which are primarily non-Iranian Arabs (Iran is mostly Persian in ethnicity) who are loyal to the government and not attached to the people. Thirdly the power structure is not centred around a single person (president mahmoud whatisname) he's just a puppet, a front man to keep the real rulers (Islamic Council) safe.

      Actual change will take time, there is not enough pressure yet for the majority of Persians to feel the need for change. This pressure will build over time however if a violent revolution were to occur today, it would just cause most Persians to rally around the government for security, isolating the youth (making things worse). The Iranian government isn't a brutal dictator like Gadafi or an incompetent embezzling oaf like Mubarak. They are cold and calculating, much like the Soviets.

      When Iran does finally democratise it will be very good for us, the western world for two reasons. 1. Persians have westernised quite easily, even in Iran today there is a growing middle class who like the same things we do (nice cars, houses, consumer electronics). 2. There are a metric crapload of Persians who left Iran after the Islamic revolution currently living in the US, Australia and Israel, mostly Baha'i, Zorrostrians and a few Jews. Compared to these religions the Persian Christians have been well treated but they were never a big group to begin with. Iran should be our biggest ally in the ME, but we screwed that one when we deposed the legitimately elected government and put that idiot Reza on the throne.

      • by Simploid (1649955)
        "They use the Republican Guard which are primarily non-Iranian Arabs ...." I wonder where you got this from? There might be some Iranians who were living in say Iraq and then Saddam expelled them in the republican guard, but I would be surprised if even one non-Iranian, Arab or otherwise be in there. Let's put it this way, there is a higher chance of a Saudi non-American citizen to be the next US President than that!
        • by mjwx (966435)

          "They use the Republican Guard which are primarily non-Iranian Arabs ...."

          Sorry, my Iranian friend calls them the Republican Guard, their Farsi name is the Basij.

          Yes, because the government is devoutly shiite Muslim and Persians were very culturally diverse before 1980 and the Iran-Iraq war wiped out most of the youth the ranks of the Basij swell with non-Iranian Arabs most notably from Lebenon and Palestine, ironically two groups the Iranian govenment support and fund are Hezbollah and Hamas.

          2+2 =

      • by SmallFurryCreature (593017) on Wednesday February 23, 2011 @03:57AM (#35288198) Journal

        Everything you said has been said before to explain why North African countries won't rebel. And then they did.

        New game, new rules. Why do you think western leaders allowed themselves to be photographed hugging the Libyan leader whatever his name is (see comment below) and indeed the British PM is on a weapon selling trip while the weapons sold in the previous trip are busy killing civilians? A bit embarrassing?

        You also seem to have forgotten the violent repression of the earlier uprising in Iran. These are not the actions of a government willing to change. Neither are there continued attempts at making nukes. It was Libya that stopped, not Iran.

        Really, LOOK at what is happening. Something has changed. Even if Iran stays the same for now, the Middle East has changed. The power balance is gone. If Egypt and Tunesia truly become democratic they would side far closer to Turkey then dictatorships. That is going to leave the remaining dictatorships far more isolated. Rewatch the fall of the Soviet Union. Once dominoes start falling,it is hard to stop.

        I think all bets are off and considering Iran's reaction so far, they think the same thing. Why else block access to these events if they are sure their own people will stand behind the government?

        • by mjwx (966435)

          Really, LOOK at what is happening.

          Yes, military dictarorships with small middle classes (I.E. a lot of poor people) are falling.

          Iran is none of those things. Iran is a theocratic state who's power-base is not in the nations military. Iran has a growing middle class.

          Really LOOK at the nations this is happening to. Then really LOOK at Iran, not the western propaganda, the actual nation. They have little in common. For fecks sake, they are different races altogether.

          Why else block access to these event

      • by Alex Belits (437) *

        Iran will democatise in the next 5-10 years, due entirely to a large young population

        Young population? You must be kidding.

        High schoolers and students are the first people used as foot soldiers for any anti-government actions, by all forces, internal and external for the country. They are great material for that use, too, as they easily accept the most idiotic "teachings" as long as they are not what the rest of the society supports.

        This is why any self-respecting government is prepared to face those "protests" and "revolutions", and defeat them. One that don't, are already conquered by suc

        • by mjwx (966435) on Wednesday February 23, 2011 @08:37AM (#35289014)

          High schoolers and students are the first people used as foot soldiers for any anti-government actions

          1969 is calling, he wants you to know the government is bad man, also have you got any weed. A lot of popular, non violent revoltutions are lead by youth. This is also why the Iranian government is using Arabs (primarily from HAMAS and Hezbollah) as troops instead of Persians, a young Persian will think long and hard about firing on his own people, some of them his friends, a brainwashed Palestinian or Lebanese wont give it a second thought. Why do you think Gaddafi first bought in troops from Chad as opposed to ordering the Libyan army in?

          The Iran-Iraq war of the 80's depleted Iran's youth. This is why their population is seriously skewed towards the younger ages, after the war everyone started having babies because there were no kids left. As a result the generation was somewhat spoiled (Persian parents normally spoil their kids, but this was extra). Also the memory of the Iran-Iraq war lingers in the minds of older Persians. Also, literacy is very high in Iran, I can also tell you've never met one, they are not the brainwashed automata you believe them to be, in actual fact young Persians are quite well educated.

          But the whole reason why the Theocratic government will eventually fall is because the youth, which is now starting to enter adulthood wants change (war ended in 1988). They are the ones that protested in June 2010. The theocratic government is used to pandering to the needs of the older generations, the younger generations are finding themselves restricted and now that they are a rising force in Iran, they're pushing back. Iran has quite a few youth problems that they dont like advertised, in particular smuggling in of western culture (movies, music) and a rather nasty heroin problem (who do you think is buying all the poppies being grown in Afghanistan). Iran's response to this was to arrest users, shoot dealers and ignore the causes, obviously the problem remains.

          This is why any self-respecting government is prepared to face those "protests" and "revolutions", and defeat them.

          What do you think they did six months ago.

          Also, you said "defeat" not wait them out like western governments but ironically that's exactly what they do, they wait out the protest or use false flag operations to make quashing them a popular move (just like western governments). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932010_Iranian_election_protests [wikipedia.org] Give that a quick read. They know how to deal with protests, as I said they are not stupid by any measure. Which is why they wont disappear overnight like Mubarak has and Gaddafi will.

      • Iran's government is perfectly designed to weather this kind of thing. First off, the Islamic council aren't dumb, not in the slightest. The protests in mid last year were met mainly with subterfuge and false flag operations (sound familiar). Secondly they've isolated the military and police in this. They use the Republican Guard which are primarily non-Iranian Arabs (Iran is mostly Persian in ethnicity) who are loyal to the government and not attached to the people. Thirdly the power structure is not centr

        • by mjwx (966435)

          Or else how explain the monumental collapse of the Soviet Union after the Party decided to launch a coup d'etat [wikipedia.org] against itself in the early 1990's?

          They ran out of money in the 80's.

          The fall of the Soviet Union, the coup d'etat, everything revolves around the fact the Soviets were broke. When they couldn't feed their people, what else could they do but reshuffle the government to avoid an all out revolution. All of the Soviets woes can be traced back to how Stalin acted after WW II, he

      • by mangu (126918)

        First off, the Islamic council aren't dumb, not in the slightest

        I'm sure not. People who believe only one book contains all the knowledge anyone could need are beyond dumb, there's no adjective to describe that level of stupidity.

        The protests in mid last year were met mainly with subterfuge and false flag operations

        Which year are you living in? FYI the big protests against the fraudulent elections in Iran happened in June 2009 and right now it's 2011.

        This pressure will build over time however if a violent revolution were to occur today, it would just cause most Persians to rally around the government for security, isolating the youth

        That was the theory that other rulers, like Mubarak, believed in. The fact is that, as revolutions go, no one can predict when they will succeed. There were rebellions in Eastern Europe in 1956 and 1968, with

    • Democracy is just the beginning of the End, as Nietzsche might say... just look at what democracy did for Ancient Greece!! This decadent politic ruined civilization! At least Iran has some sand left to bury it's head in...
      • Oh really? Democracy ruined civilization??? The same civilizations that have been harbors of theocracies, dynasties, monarchies, dictatorships, and anarchy for thousands of years in the past? This Nietzsche fellow is a fucking moron and has already established zero credibility with me.

      • just look at what democracy did for Ancient Greece!!

        As opposed to other forms of government all of which of course were able to avoid being conquered by the Roman Empire except for democracies right?

    • by russotto (537200)

      All those cries for democracy in Muslim nations, that just ain't right is it.

      Islamic "democracy" just means you get to vote (once) for the Ayatollah of your choice.

    • by seyyah (986027)

      Gadafhi

      I've seen:
      Gadhafi
      Gadaffi
      Gaddafi
      Ghadafi ... and more

      Gadafhi is new to me though. Nice one!

      PS I prefer Gadhafi

      • by seyyah (986027)

        Well, Qadhafi is more accurate, but whatever.

      • by Fluffeh (1273756)

        I just call him Gandalfi...

      • by afidel (530433)
        The dude has even used different spelling in his own written material over the years so any semi-similar transliteration is ok as long as it's obvious which specimen of completely pure evil you are talking about. I mean it takes a really sick bastard to order the airforce to bomb and strafe a funeral!
    • by bedouin (248624)

      Most anti-government sentiment in Iran is fueled by outside interests and overhyped by Western media. Iran is really one of the more progressive nations in the entire region.

      • Iran is really one of the more progressive nations in the entire region.

        And Grumpy is quite tall for a dwarf.

  • of a radio station? Sounds like an anonymous operation.
  • by ZDRuX (1010435)
    These could be false flag attacks.. either deliberate or not, we don't know. If we see more of these, the U.S. gov will finally have their excuse to shut down and control the internet.
  • The Iranian Cyber Army are "hackers"? How generous...

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