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Most Consumers Support Government Cyber-Spying 247

Posted by samzenpus
from the touch-of-espionage-with-every-install dept.
scurtis writes "Nearly two thirds of computer users globally believe that it is acceptable for their country to spy on other nations by hacking or installing malware, according to Sophos's mid-year 2010 Security Threat Report. And 23 percent claimed to support this action even during peacetime. Perhaps more surprisingly, 32 percent of respondents said that countries should also be allowed to plant malware and hack into private foreign companies in order to spy for economic advantage."
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Most Consumers Support Government Cyber-Spying

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  • by Mr. Freeman (933986) on Wednesday August 04, 2010 @11:00PM (#33146492)
    That's neither funny nor hypocritical at all. At least during war, it's accepted that spying is a legitimate strategy for gaining an advantage. It makes perfect sense to want your government to gain an advantage over your enemy and to be angry when the enemy is gaining an advantage over you.

    I'm not saying that spying is justified, all I'm saying is that there's no contradiction in supporting your government spying on other countries but being angry at other governments spying on you.
  • by AnonymousClown (1788472) on Wednesday August 04, 2010 @11:02PM (#33146500)

    I like how we are merely consumers and no longer Citizens now.


    Corporatism, baby. Eventually, all countries will be governed the same way: for the corporation; by the corporation. The government will be to give us consumer/workers a legal framework.

  • by casings (257363) on Wednesday August 04, 2010 @11:05PM (#33146520)

    At least during war, it's accepted that spying is a legitimate strategy for gaining an advantage

    I'm not saying that spying is justified

    I'm saying is that there's no contradiction in supporting...

    Uhh, yea it's just you contradicting yourself.

  • by joelsanda (619660) on Wednesday August 04, 2010 @11:27PM (#33146622) Homepage
    Gur evtug bs gur crbcyr gb or frpher va gurve crefbaf, ubhfrf, cncref, naq rssrpgf, ntnvafg haernfbanoyr frnepurf naq frvmherf, funyy abg or ivbyngrq, naq ab Jneenagf funyy vffhr, ohg hcba cebonoyr pnhfr, fhccbegrq ol Bngu be nssvezngvba, naq cnegvphyneyl qrfpevovat gur cynpr gb or frnepurq, naq gur crefbaf be guvatf gb or frvmrq. (For our snooping friends :-)
  • by rubycodez (864176) on Wednesday August 04, 2010 @11:53PM (#33146760)

    no, "a citizen and *producer*"

    there are *consumer parasites*, they are the central bankers and megacorporate elite with our lawmakers in their pockets

  • by RocketRabbit (830691) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @12:00AM (#33146790)

    What is telling is the language used. When considering matters of cyber-spying, you should shut off your "consumer" brain and do your duty as a citizen.

    Newspeak at work in the real world.

  • by Wyatt Earp (1029) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @01:02AM (#33147038)

    Home Owners Associations are the tribes?

    No, HOAs are petty little bureaucracies made up of rules lawyers. HOAs don't gang up on one another.

    MMA is just the modern professional boxing since the professional boxing promoters and associations became so corrupt.

  • by coder111 (912060) <coder@rrmail. c o m> on Thursday August 05, 2010 @06:28AM (#33148138)
    If you can avoid a fight, avoid it. If you are in a fight- you must survive by any means necessary, preferably by escaping. If that fails, by using maximum amount of violence and aggression in shortest period of time possible, and by using every advantage or imporivsed weapon available. And then escaping. Fighting is scary ugly uncivilized brutal thing to be avoided, and that's the way it should be. If your martial arts instructor is teaching you anything else, find some other instructor or style.

    Regarding violence in everyday life- I don't see any of it living in the middle of London. It's all over the news, but I think that's just reporters chasing stories that sell. And there's plenty of it in movies & games, but that's because violence & sex sells. As far as I know, statistics show that violent crime in real life is declining, and has been for a while.

    I do agree that governments around the world are getting more totalitarian now, and that is scary. It's not the violence per se that scares me the most, it's the "1984" like boot stomping on a human face forever.

  • by LinuxIsGarbage (1658307) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @07:57AM (#33148536)
    HOA's are more interested that you only paint your house the neighbourhood standard of beige, and you have the right light fixtures on the front than they are in crime. []
  • by easterberry (1826250) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @10:34AM (#33149770)
    Slippery Slope is a subtle form of strawman.

    You can't show evidence that action X is, in and of itself bad but action Y which is a more severe version of action X IS clearly wrong so you say "We can't do action X because it will lead to action Y." This way you're no longer arguing against action X (which is entirely reasonable) you're now arguing against your made up hyperbole of it (action Y) which you claim is a direct unavoidable result while either not providing any evidence that X leads to Y besides the fact that both are similar in nature but Y is worse or ignoring that we can use common sense to stop at X without going as far as Y.

    That's why it is a fallacy. It assumes a relation between X and Y which does not necessarily exist.

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