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Microsoft to Force IE7 Update on February 12th 480

Z80xxc! writes "InfoWorld is reporting that on February 12th, Microsoft will roll out Internet Explorer 7 through Windows Server Update Services to all systems - regardless of whether or not the update had been requested previously. The piece also mentions ways to prevent the update from occurring, for sysadmins who do not want to use IE7 on their systems. Microsoft claims that the decision was made due to 'security concerns'."
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Microsoft to Force IE7 Update on February 12th

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  • Silverlight (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sjaguar ( 763407 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @09:31AM (#22125622) Homepage
    Will this upgrade also include a (forced) installation of Silverlight?
  • by capnkr ( 1153623 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @09:42AM (#22125734)
    ...I wish there was another way of making it.

    OK, note to self: week of Feb 12, expect many calls from windows-using clients...
  • by KiloByte ( 825081 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @09:55AM (#22125832)
    Er, what he said was "IE7 WILL NOT be going on any of my machines", not that he will use IE6. Updating MSIE replaces a bunch of system files as well, even though you don't use the sorry-excuse-for-a-browser at all. I have yet to see a case when version X+1 of a Microsoft product was less intrusive than version X, so that's not a totally unbased decision.

    And, if you need to check if a page works in IE6, you have it right there. I just checked the IE history on my XP box -- there was not a single entry outside the local servers.
  • by MMC Monster ( 602931 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @10:14AM (#22125996)
    The place I work uses activeX components to log into the citrix-based intranet client. They have big signs for the last couple years stating that they will not support Firefox. Over the last year they also had to add a sign that they will not cover IE7. Should be interesting to see what they do now. Maybe I'll drop them an email and ask. :-)
  • Re:Silverlight (Score:3, Interesting)

    by sabernet ( 751826 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @10:33AM (#22126144) Homepage
    Except that there's a known issue with nvidia boards for the last half year that MS has yet to fix, causing all Silverlight audio to clip like crazy and be at 200% volume with no control.

    http://silverlight.net/forums/p/3668/10602.aspx [silverlight.net]

    Still haven't fixed it. Though at least now it seems their devs have acknowledged its existence.
  • by starglider29a ( 719559 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @10:42AM (#22126224)
    I have a Canadian Dollar here that says that this "update" is to shift the stats. As of right now [w3schools.com], Firefox is p0wning IE6 OR IE7, but not IE6 AND IE7.
  • That would be me (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Mycroft_514 ( 701676 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @10:43AM (#22126232) Journal
    FedEx has declared IE 7 off limits until further notice, so there is one place it won't get implemented. And all employees that want to access the LAN infrastructure are further forbidden to go to IE 7. Makes my decision easy on what to do about this, as I need my machines to be able to access that net.
  • by afidel ( 530433 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @10:50AM (#22126318)
    If your corporate IT department didn't know about IE7 they should be sacked. Hell if your bigger than about a hundred users and you have auto-authorize turned on in WSUS they should probably be sacked. I knew about the IE7 GPO setting back when IE7 went into public beta and put the block in place back then, so even if a user happens to have local admin (not many do here) they can't install the update.
  • by Peet42 ( 904274 ) <Peet42@Net[ ]pe.net ['sca' in gap]> on Monday January 21, 2008 @10:56AM (#22126398)

    The quicker Microsoft gets rid of non-standard software, the better the alternatives work.


    While this is true, it's also not relevant. Microsoft make a deliberate choice to look at a standard then figure out how much "wiggle room" they have to interpret it "creatively", producing something that is different from everyone else in the market yet arguably (with the correct dictionary) "compliant". Then they blow the marketing budget of a mid-size company on changing the public perception of their product from "different" to "better" so that they can lock users into it.
  • by nevali ( 942731 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @11:04AM (#22126498) Homepage
    For a while that's pretty much been the case: browsers that render standards-compliant mark-up and CSS without a good deal of tweaking are in the majority. IE 6 sits somewhere between 30% and 40% of the visitor share for e-commerce sites in the UK (our target market), so it's been the case for some time that standards-compliant mark-up hits the majority. The problem is, of course, that 30-40% is a hell of a lot of people, and so the hassle of the IE 6-specific workarounds still has to be endured until it drops to the sort of percentages we see for earlier versions.

    Firefox, Opera, Safari, and the various other Gecko/KHTML/WebKit derivatives aren't on their own significant enough to warrant special treatment, but taken together (which makes sense, as they generally adhere to the same standards) they're a pretty persuasive argument for standards-compliant mark-up: especially when you take into account the fact that IE 7 isn't remotely as bad at dealing with it as IE 6 is.
  • by mrand ( 147739 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @11:09AM (#22126540)
    So the handy dandy window listing the 100's of updates you are missing to keep your WinXP machine up-to-date just popped up over the weekend. No clue why. After seeing this slashdot story, I scrolled down and saw "Windows Internet Exploer 7.0 for Windows XP". I read the details and the last line says:

    "This update includes Windows Genuine Advantage Validation."

    I guess so few people are "choosing" to install their spyware that they now they are bundling it with other stuff? This is AFTER Microsloth said they weren't going to do such a thing:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/10/04/internet-explorer-7-update.aspx [msdn.com]

          Marc
  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @11:29AM (#22126744) Homepage
    IE 6 is so bad that I can't understand why anybody would NOT want to upgrade as soon as IE 7 came out.

    Because most vertical web apps are so poorly written that they rely on the bugs and problems in IE6 to function. Almost every single app I had to manage at my last job was IE6 specific and written by a bunch of blathering idiots, I regularly went into the asp code to fix something they said cant be fixed.

    Most companies buy the low grade dog food webapp suites as they have no other choice and then they are stuck having to support it's quirks until that company actually hires competent programmers or someone else comes along and makes something different.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 21, 2008 @12:20PM (#22127256)
    IE7 breaks Oracle Application Server 10iR1 and 10iR2 apps. We run a huge enterprise application called Sungard Banner (a college & university management system, kinda like SAP, PeopleSoft and Siebel is for big corps, Banner is the same but for large universities). Banner is written to use Oracle Application Server 10g as the middleware web host, using JINITIATOR inside the browser as the actual java client runtime engine, and while it appears to launch and run mostly OK with IE7, it is not officially supported and there are lots of applets that crash the browser (it just goes poof and vanishes off the screen with no error messages or event log entries) and leave stranded Oracle sessions and partial transactions waiting to be either committed or rolled back until the database engine declares the transactions dead after a timeout and then rolls them back automatically. It's a big hassle to the users. Therefore, IE7 is not considered a supported browser and there are no plans to make it supported, IE6 is officially supported, and works just fine. Netscape Navigator is also an officially supported browser, but nobody wants to go there... Netscape is considered dead-end browser. Firefox 2.x will work great, but is not officially supported, and requires manually copying a DLL file and making a registry entry to make it work, which is a great hassle to deploy on thousands of desktop PCs whereas the IE6 and Netscape browsers automatically install and configure the JINITIATOR client piece the very first time the users visits the intranet server, without any intervention.
  • by Locutus ( 9039 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @12:29PM (#22127386)
    Microsoft is finally pulling the 'security' card to force users to new versions of their products. It must be nice to be a MSFT programmer when you don't have to work on one rev old products no matter how large the install base.

    Seriously, it blew me away in the mid 90s when the press+dog just let Microsoft refuse to provide USB support for the previous OS product and claimed that if you want USB support, you must purchase a new computer or fumble through an upgrade. IIRC, Windows 98 and NT v4 were such products though NT v4 was a larger update since they both moved the graphics subsystem into the kernel and added the win95 shell/desktop along with adding USB support.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall for all those meetings they have on how to get customers to upgrade. There's got to be some very funny and some very scary recommendations being thrown around those meetings. It's got to be tough for Microsoft, wanting customers to be lame enough to not look outside of Microsoft for software solutions yet at the same time, be willing to keep upgrading Microsoft products every couple of months and like it.

    LoB
  • IE7 for Win2k? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by whoever57 ( 658626 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @12:37PM (#22127512) Journal

    Microsoft claims that the decision was made due to 'security concerns'."
    So does this meant that IE7 will be available on Win2k? Win2K is still in "extended support" mode until 2010. Extended support means that MS fixes security problems.
  • by MSFanBoi2 ( 930319 ) on Monday January 21, 2008 @01:54PM (#22128510)
    Did you even bother to read the OP? What part of, and I quote The IE7 upgrade scheduled to roll out via WSUS (Windows Server Update Services) on Feb. 12 was announced last October didn't you understand. I don't know very many home users with a WSUS box up and running.


    The whole ARTICLE IS ABOUT WSUS, not home users, WSUS.

    Thanks for proving my point about Linux fanboi's seeing only what they want to see.

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