WinFS Beta 1 Released Early

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Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Monday August 29, 2005 @08:44PM from the how-early-is-too-early dept.

Mouldy Punk writes "Infoworld is reporting that WinFS Beta 1 has been released. The new relational file system for Windows is posted on MSDN Subscriber Downloads. This release is designed to offer developers a preview of WinFS capabilities. WinFS will be in beta when Windows Vista ships and will RTM afterwords. WinFS, when it ships, will be available for download for Windows Vista and possible support for Windows XP is being considered. The distribution mechanism for WinFS will be through an add-on download much like the .NET framework is today. Tom Rizzo also notes that there is a new blog dedicated to Win FS."

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I wanna know (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @08:46PM (#13432091)

What should Hans has to say on this fs.

First post. (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @08:46PM (#13432096)

MS just found the backup disk.

NTFS? (Score:4, Funny)

by Snoolas ( 910809 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @08:48PM (#13432107)

I wonder if there is a possibility of MS releasing the NTFS specs for the FOSS community once WinFS becomes widely used? That would be great, but seems unlikely.

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by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @08:50PM (#13432118)

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Re:Now I can search my drive for images? (Score:2, Funny)

by ivan256 ( 17499 ) * writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @08:59PM (#13432174)

Easy, they'll put it all in a database using .NET and write an activeX control for the windows explorer window that queries the database and makes the entries look like icons.

Then they'll patent it.

I've had better ideas over lunch. I wish somebody would give me a few million dollars to build one.

Re:bleh (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:01PM (#13432187)

1) Offer nothing new in Vista 2) Release an add-on with "BETA" in the title 3) ??? 4) Profit!
I guess they're learning from linux after all!

Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:4, Funny)

by Matt2k ( 688738 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:05PM (#13432210)

> and whose mistake was propagated to Windows 98, 98SE, ME, NT, 2K, XP, and 2K3, effectively making it impossible for nontechnical users to ever learn where their files were located...

The root of the problem is that most people do not care where their files are located. They just want it to work.

By the way, I think something is wrong with your keyboard.

Vista==XP (Score:5, Funny)

by digitalderbs ( 718388 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:07PM (#13432216)

When buying a Vista license, you'll be paying for XP a second time ... but you're really saving in the TCO.

Excellent! (Score:3, Funny)

by sigmaseven ( 906671 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:07PM (#13432219)

Yeah, I should use a Microsoft beta file system, because my files and documents aren't in enough danger as it is....

Seriously, is there an upside to this system to the casual-to-serious user? Or is it mostly a DRM-delivery platform? I read TFAs, but this sentence hurt me: "(Integrated data initiative is a term used to refer to a group of technologies whose goal is to provide better integration for data..." ...aaaand I just bluescreened my brain.

Re:Now I can search my drive for images? (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:07PM (#13432220)

Some kind of tree? Hmmm, sounds familiar.

c: \text \windoze \pr0n

But is the world ready for such technology?

Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:09PM (#13432231)

By the way, I think something is wrong with your keyboard.
You mean the ^H's? He's probably using Lunix. It's 2005 and they still can't get the freaking backspace key to work.

Re:NTFS? (Score:3, Funny)

by sharkey ( 16670 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:11PM (#13432237)

So which one is not a file system, the New Technology File System or the Windows File System?

I wonder if it runs in Wine? (Score:3, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:12PM (#13432239)

If this is an add-on which interfaces to the kernel through an API it should be possible to get it to run under Wine, right? I'm fairly ignorant about how Wine works, so I'm wondering. That would be cool to have WinFS running on Linux.

Re:Give it a rest, OK? (Score:5, Funny)

by DrCode ( 95839 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:17PM (#13432265)

You are (deliberately?) misunderstanding what WinFS is designed to accomplish.

Locking out Linux/Samba clients and servers?

Re:I wanna know (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:25PM (#13432309)

Mine too... all it needs now is a good text editor.

Re:bleh (Score:5, Funny)

by aussie_a ( 778472 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:33PM (#13432342) Journal

2) Release an add-on with "BETA" in the title

Works for Google.

Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:5, Funny)

by aussie_a ( 778472 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:35PM (#13432351) Journal

The bu^H^Hfeature is that you no longer get^H^H^Hneed to know where your files are.

One of these days they're going to invent an operating system that recognises the Backspace button. The possibilities will be endless! They might even have cars that run on electricity in that future age.

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:4, Funny)

by Keeper ( 56691 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:37PM (#13432356)

I'm actually looking forward to using it in a manner that will help me organize my photos. Directory structures + filenames don't cut it, especially when you've got attributes like "christmas vacation, florida, camille, beach, lighthouse, 16:9 crop" that you want to associate with one file.

Of course, as you note, the system is useless if you have poor metadata associated with the files. But with good metadata, the flexability/power available to organize and find the information you are looking for is increased by an order of magnitude via dynamic folder creation.

And ... (Score:1, Funny)

by too_poland ( 845066 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:38PM (#13432362)

... does it run linux(TM) ? :>

linux/oss version? (Score:2, Funny)

by leckmi ( 911151 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @09:42PM (#13432385) Homepage

i bet WINFS is not much more advanced than the ancient BeFS was. but im open to let my friend Bill and his crew convince me with their linux version of it...

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:2, Funny)

by Gothmolly ( 148874 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @10:02PM (#13432468)

"christmas vacation, florida, camille, beach, lighthouse, 16:9 crop" sounds like a great filename to me. Or

\christmas vacation\florida\camille-beach-lighthouse-16:9-cro p?

Re:I wanna know (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @10:11PM (#13432509)

Han Solo:
"I've got a bad feeling about this!"

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by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @10:14PM (#13432523)

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Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:3, Funny)

by SnprBoB86 ( 576143 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @10:18PM (#13432538) Homepage

until you go to florida again on spring break and later want to see all pictures from florida all in one place...

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:3, Funny)

by Keeper ( 56691 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @10:24PM (#13432573)

Great, now show me how to find all of the lighthouse pictures I've ever taken from floria that aren't a 16:9 crop?

Or better, how I would use said directory structure to organize pictures with Camille in them for some sort of surprise birthday photo montage?

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:3, Funny)

by slavemowgli ( 585321 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @10:35PM (#13432626) Homepage

A CVS replacement? Why? There's already Subversion. ;)

Finally! (Score:3, Funny)

by Perryman ( 882190 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @11:12PM (#13432787)

...A microsoft supported file sharing program! wait... what does the FS stand for again?

Re:And ... (Score:3, Funny)

by nmb3000 ( 741169 ) writes: on Monday August 29, 2005 @11:38PM (#13432890) Journal

Wow. 15 minutes and you still haven't been modded Flamebait or Troll. Very impressive.

Re:First post. (Score:3, Funny)

by ZosX ( 517789 ) writes: <zosxavius@gmQUOTEail.com minus punct> on Monday August 29, 2005 @11:40PM (#13432896) Homepage

Don't worry. There isn't a karma bonus for funny. Thanks for the laugh though, that was a good one. :)

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by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes: on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @12:52AM (#13433172)

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Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:2, Funny)

by spudgun ( 39016 ) writes: on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @01:04AM (#13433249) Homepage

cars that run on electricity

And car managment systems running emacs , rather than winme ?

Re:Is Linux Trailing? (Score:3, Funny)

by hey! ( 33014 ) writes: on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @09:27AM (#13435193) Homepage Journal

a lot of us are complacent with semantics that are still pretty much the same as their father's Unix box

My father was in a coastal village in deep southern China, between Guandong and Hainan Island. The year was 1911, it was in the waning months of the Qing dynasty. If the stories are true, the house he was born in apparently doubled as a chicken coop. I'd dearly love to get my hands on his Unix box, it'd be quite a family heirloom.

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I wanna know (Score:5, Funny)

First post. (Score:4, Funny)

NTFS? (Score:4, Funny)

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Re:Now I can search my drive for images? (Score:2, Funny)

Re:bleh (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:4, Funny)

Vista==XP (Score:5, Funny)

Excellent! (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Now I can search my drive for images? (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:5, Funny)

Re:NTFS? (Score:3, Funny)

I wonder if it runs in Wine? (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Give it a rest, OK? (Score:5, Funny)

Re:I wanna know (Score:2, Funny)

Re:bleh (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:5, Funny)

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:4, Funny)

And ... (Score:1, Funny)

linux/oss version? (Score:2, Funny)

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:2, Funny)

Re:I wanna know (Score:2, Funny)

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Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:3, Funny)

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:3, Funny)

Re:but what about the interface to it? (Score:3, Funny)

Finally! (Score:3, Funny)

Re:And ... (Score:3, Funny)

Re:First post. (Score:3, Funny)

Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Is this really a file system? (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Is Linux Trailing? (Score:3, Funny)

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