India Will Need to Recruit 120,000 Foreigners 453
indi_jobs writes "After all the noise about jobs moving from Europe and USA to India, ZDNet India is reporting that 'India faces a massive shortage of workers with European language skills over the next five years which could see the country needing to recruit up to 120,000 foreigners...' Looks like the jobs may be moving to India but they might require the original people to do some of the jobs!" From the article: "Evalueserve said the ramping up of non-English speaking capability by the Indian offshore firms is an attempt to capture a larger share of the continental European outsourcing market, and reduce the country's high-risk exposure of more than 80 per cent of business coming from the UK and the U.S. economies."
Language skills (Score:2, Informative)
Judging on the speech of the person who answered the last time I called tech support they don't seem be too strict about the "European language skills" part.
Tell me about it! (Score:3, Informative)
I keep seeing stuff like:
Re:Supply & Demand (Score:3, Informative)
Are you sure? (Score:3, Informative)
According to this index, it looks like living in Mumbai or New Dehli costs about 45% of what it costs in New York, and 1/3 what it costs in Tokyo.
Does it really cost 2.29 Rupees for a loaf of bread (I just bought one for $2.29) or can you really rent an apartment in Mumbai for under 3000 Rupees/month?
Hint: When I was in Turkey and the exchange rate was 400,000 lira to the dollar, I wasn't able to get a meal at any restaurant for less than a million lira.
Yes, there is Indian language.... (Score:2, Informative)
When it is true, which it is in this case.
"Ok...Seriously... There is no language called "Indian." It can be used as an Adjective.. but not as a Noun"
However, there are languages called "Indian". As it is a plural, it can be used as a noun. Plurals do count as nouns. The parent you objected to, who referred to "speaking Indian", did not specify the singular, and his wording fits the plural. Therefore, he is correct.
Similarly, there are many Slavic languages. It is also correct to refer to someone as "speaking Slavic", whether or not the specific language is Russian, Macedonian, or Polish.
Re:It's a question of exchange rates (Score:2, Informative)
How long were you in Bangalore? I am guessing one week, max.
:-/
To answer your questions:
An avg programmer (engineer) starts at Rs. 20,000/month ~$500/mo
A programmer of 5-6 years might earn $1000/mo. Peaking at $2000/mo - assuming he does not become a Manager.
Now compare this:
4 Tomatoes in the US cost $3 ~Rs 150.
For that price you get 40 tomatoes in India.
So in this respect India is a better standard of living.
However, any commodity that comes from the outside will always be more expensive for India's because of the large inflated cost additives.
My point? I forgot it myself. But hope this information adds up to something
Re:MWHAHAHAHA (Score:3, Informative)
Re:It's a question of exchange rates (Score:1, Informative)
I am Indian (Indian born) and my work takes me between the US and India every 6-8 mos. I see and get reminded first hand of the differences frequently enough to know how things actually stand.
The air pollution on a "good day" in a city like Madras rivals the worst I've *EVER* seen in the 15+ years I've been in the US. Autos, taxis, rickshaws have no pollution/emission control except in Delhi, so there is nothing forcing people to properly maintain their vehicles (and of course they don't).
If the standard of living is "equal" to US/Europe, then I should be able to drink the tap water in any major cosmopolatan city. Strangely my family, in a nice area of Bombay, uses a complex water purifier because the water they get, even in a "posh" area is not sanitary.
The "technical" people you speak of may have a nice flat or house, but the surrounding areas, the country itself is NOT a pleasant place to live.
Water, air and noise pollution factor into "standard of living" as do sanitary conditions.
Re:It's a question of exchange rates (Score:2, Informative)
Where do you get this stuff? This is NOT TRUE. How do I know? I am an American, working in China, for a software outsourcing company in one of the richest cities in the country. My coworkers are all software engineers, considering this a GOOD JOB, and their standard of living is NOT equal to or above mine in the US, and my job in the US paid under 40K.
For example:
How many of them can afford to live in apartments that are high enough quality to have safe wiring and elevators? Maybe half.
How many of them feel like they can afford to run the air condioning (or even have air conditioning), even when it's above 90 outside? Less than half.
How many engineers in my company can afford a car? None. Everyone takes an hour long bus when a car ride would only take 15 minutes.
I showed some pictures of my home back in the US, and talked about my life there, and people said it would be like a dream to have the life I lived there.
Maybe India is different, but I'm sorry, at least in China, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Re:MWHAHAHAHA (Score:3, Informative)
Indians can find a foreign(say British) accent hard to understand too. My mom speaks perfect english, but she finds Hollywood movies hard to understand because of the American accent.
Re:Are you sure? (Score:3, Informative)
Again, depending on what you want and the locality, your rent can vary from 2000 INR to about 1000,000 INR per month in Mumbai (You can comfortably live in Mumbai on 10000 INR/mth, particularly if you use public transport. And Mumbai's public transport is excellent).
New Delhi is a bit more expensive to live in, as is Bangalore.