IBM buys Gluecode 81
karvind writes "After acquisition of Ascential, Big Blue has bought the application management firm Gluecode. From the article: IBM plans to allow its customers to download Gluecode software, develop their own application server software, and begin using it -- all at no cost. IBM also said it will become an active contributor to the Apache Geronimo open source project and will expand the existing community of developers."
Diabetes (Score:3, Funny)
Amazing technology! (Score:5, Funny)
Next up from IBM -- they mail you sand, which you can use to develop advanced microprocessors and chipsets, and begin using them, all at no cost!
Followed by their patented 4k GIF reading "WORK FASTER," intended for use to develop your own source code control system, and begin using it -- all at no cost!
For the coup de grace, an online whiteboard, allowing you to jot arbitrary equations and thus evewntually develop amazing new branches of quantum physics, revolutionizing modern thought. All for just two percent of royalties (plus naming rights)!
Thanks, IBM!
Re:Amazing technology! (Score:2)
And there are no computrons.
Though I guess having the first quantum-spelled name [ibm.com] (IBM in xenon atoms with nickel base) is pretty cool.
Gotta hand it to IBM. At first they were the ones to bring the computer industry down, but now they're bringing it up, up and up. I think they really understand what our computer and tech culture is becoming.
Re:Amazing technology! (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah they sure do. It's a source of great income for those with deep pockets like Dell, Microsoft, and IBM. IBM is just leveraging their power to stay alive and grow. They invested heavily in Linux from a number of angles to benefit themselves first and the rest of us second. I don't have a problem with their methodology, just pointing out that their the primary benefactor of the technology they purchase and open up like this.
Re:Amazing technology! (Score:2)
When treading into software, its not a zero-sum game. In fact, its the companies and people who mooch off of free stuff without giving back. The recent anti-GPL companies recently 'featured' are an exemplary demonstration of that.
Re:Amazing technology! (Score:2, Insightful)
Right.
That's the difference between IBM and Microsoft.
As IBM betters its fortunates, it gives us free stuff.
As Microsoft betters its fortunes, it gives us, oh, DRM, viruses, BSOD, ever increasing fees, endless FUD and BS from Gates, etc. ad nauseum.
Re:Amazing technology! (Score:2)
You can thank the "Big Studios" for that, thank you. People dont want DRM, the content distributors (not creators as much).
---viruses
What virus has Microsoft made? Guess you've never seen a naughty shell script or C code with bad calls that do things like... encrypt your ~ and then demand X amount of dollars for the decryption key.
---BSOD
Yeah, like I'd rather have Windows (or ANY OS for that matter) try to attempt to recover from a kernel error
Re:Amazing technology! (Score:2)
Another Windows troll. It's everybody's fault but Gates and Windows. Yeah, right.
THIS is why we're better off with IBM.
Job Losses (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Job Losses (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Job Losses (Score:2)
Re:Job Losses (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Job Losses (Score:2)
That sounds like a motto for the Ankh-Morpork Fools' Guild.
Re:Job Losses (Score:1)
Re:Job Losses (Score:2, Insightful)
Makes it easier on the employee getting fired (less insult to injury) and also reduces the likelihood of a law suit (harder to demonstrate discrimination).
Then they turn around and hire 13,000 people who are (hopefully) exceptional, and though the net employee count is unchanged, the av
Re:Job Losses (Score:2)
Re:Job Losses (Score:1)
They sack 13,000 jobs and get FOSS people to do the work for them, the giving the code away part is just to win them over.
Not that i am saying it is bad for them to do this.
Why not use JBOSS? (Score:1, Flamebait)
What am I missing here?
Def
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:2)
Indeed. I see the question as being "when you can't cope with your expanding J2EE app server needs yourself, who do you want to call in, IBM [ibm.com] or JBoss [jboss.com] ?"
Note that's jboss.com... IBM isn't the only for-profit company involved in open-source J2EE app server products here. Maybe that's what you're missing. Or maybe you're just missing the concept that someone might look to an outside company for help with their app server, r
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:1)
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:4, Insightful)
Charles
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:3, Interesting)
Right now there are two major J2EE engines out there. JBOSS and JONAS what is the purpose of a third? Both JBOSS and JONAS are certified by SUN, both of them are proven enterprise ready, both of them have active developers and userbase.
So I'll ask it again. What is the purpose of a third open source J2EE container? Is there some missing functionality tlhey want to implement?
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:1)
*Business* Competition == redundancy and waste (Score:2)
You're joking here, but I think this isn't too far from the truth. Too often, we confuse improvements with the inefficient competitive business practices under which they were developed. However, improvements can also come about through cooperation, and in fact, they probably do come about through that method more often.
Take Free Software project branching, for instance: you can branch a project and
Re:*Business* Competition == redundancy and waste (Score:2)
When people agree.
The other, competitiveness as we often see between capitalist companies, is wasteful, needlessly secretive, and generally childish.
At times. But it's a useful organizing principle for a pluralist society where people often disagree.
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:2, Informative)
Try & set up multiple JBoss instances & ask yourself why pre-packaged JBoss components in the deploy directory (where you deploy your applications) refer to specific ports configured elsewhere, and you have
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:1)
i think the specs are farily clear regarding the application container provider's responsibilities regarding classloaders. care to expand on some of the things you see lacking?
if you read the jboss docs/examples, you'll see that there's a simple ant execution to setup multip
Re:Why not use JBOSS? (Score:3, Informative)
Yup... they're bugs b/c they're documented to work one way, and actually work another. However the class-loading heirachy is very clear (until you start deploying applications that do their own class-loading as well ala Sun Portal Server).
Any application server that, when i
Buy Buy Buy (Score:1)
More info (Score:4, Informative)
Editors: articles are increasingly lacking context. Please editorialize a bit more.
The company's web site [gluecode.com] and Product overview [gluecode.com] for Gluecode SE [gluecode.com] would help next time.
Apache Geronimo (Score:5, Informative)
Apache Geronimo Homepage [apache.org]
I knew of [apache jakarta] tomcat, but not geronimo. Sorry, I guess I've been living under a comfy rock for too long.
Re:Apache Geronimo (Score:5, Informative)
So is Websphere...
o.O
Gluecode actually goes beyond J2EE; Apache Derby is supplied as a DBMS. It merges all of these independent parts into a cohesive, turn-key J2EE stack with a few extras, like a web based configuration/management interface.
Jetty is the HTTP listener. I really like Jetty. For most small J2EE apps, if you need something that isn't in Jetty Plus (besides the database,) you need to think hard about whether you're over engineering. If you can live within Jetty Plus, your life will be far more pleasant; you need a JVM, tar/winzip and vi/notepad to manage that server.
Why has JBoss moved away from Jetty anyhow? It use to be the default HTTP listener and servlet engine, but it looks like they've diverged. NIH?
Re:Apache Geronimo (Score:1, Funny)
ARE YOU KIDDING?? Suppose I have a SMALL, J2EE app, and suppose it's overengineered..., but I repeat myself.
JBoss and Jetty (Score:3, Informative)
One Word... (Score:2)
The enemy of their enemy... (Score:5, Insightful)
So, they support Apache Geronimo to compete with JBoss.
Re:The enemy of their enemy... (Score:2, Interesting)
i'd guess ibm went with linux only because they had already a corporate server room presence (RHEL/SuSE), and the BSD's most likely have much less deployments.
Re:The enemy of their enemy... (Score:2)
Possibly. But if a company does improve Geronimo and sell its version, it has fewer incentives to release those improvements: if it did, other companies could release their own improvements and the first company would have no access thereto. Whereas with the
Apache Harmony (Score:4, Interesting)
When Classpath is turning almost compliant, Apache tries to help it's accepance by requesting
them to move the code to the Apache Licence.
The man behind it is a VP at Gluecode.
IBM buys Gluecode.
Also there was a rumor on jpackage about an undisclose three letter company that
was getting them to test a free j2se impementation.
Re:Apache Harmony (Score:2)
Which is a bit of a puzzle, because they don't need to campaign for it - they can simply write it. If any company has the resources to do this, it is IBM.
Re:Apache Harmony (Score:4, Informative)
So, all they can do now is encourage other people to hurry up and write a free-as-in-speech JVM and, for example, provide financial incentive to that end without actually providing anyone to do the work itself.
Re:Apache Harmony (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Apache Harmony (Score:2)
It is misleading to consider a huge company like IBM to be a single entity who as 'looked at Sun's source code'. They could always form a development team from people who haven't seen it.
Re:Apache Harmony (Score:3, Insightful)
Right.
When Classpath is turning almost compliant, Apache tries to help it's accepance by requesting them to move the code to the Apache Licence.
Not true. Apache Harmony is an effort for an Apache VM. They haven't decided yet if that means writing their own from scratch or adopting one.
They haven't decided yet if they're going to use GNU Classpath either. Although it is very, very likely.
Apache has not requested that Classpath change its license. Firstly becaus
Gluecode? (Score:4, Funny)
Does that mean there's a lot of cutting and pasting involved?
Re:Gluecode? (Score:1)
I hope the adheshive isn't the kind that you lick. Licking 10,000+ lines of code together has to taste horribly nasty.
And imagine the Gentoo people's horror when they hear they have to lick all the code together just to compile Tux Racer. "emerge tongue" indeed
Re:Gluecode? (Score:2)
First thought about "IBM buys Gluecode" (Score:3, Funny)
Smooth move? Can't really tell. (Score:2)
Re:Smooth move? Can't really tell. (Score:3, Insightful)
ERP market stance (Score:2)
This wouldnt make much sense, except Oracle has been snatching up middleware people, and other IP groups to try and strengthen their overall ERP stance, something that IBM was looking to do with their strategic alliance with PeopleSoft last fall. Just a thought.
What are IBM really buying? (Score:2)
Geir Magnusson Jr. is from Gluecode [codehaus.org], which IBM has acquired.
What is IBM really trying to buy here? I always thought that when IBM wanted Java they'd just buy Sun.
you scared me to death! (Score:1)