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Securing Mac OS X Tiger
Posted by
Zonk
on Sat Sep 10, 2005 02:21 PM
from the intense-lockdown dept.
from the intense-lockdown dept.
Stephen de Vries writes "Mac OS X is one of the most secure default installations of any OS. But it is still possible to lock the OS down further, in order to meet corporate security guidelines or to securely use network services. Corsaire has released a guide to Securing Mac OS X Tiger (long pdf) which addresses the new security features introduced through Tiger and presents some security good practice guidelines."
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I once tried to secure a tiger (Score:5, Funny)
Nice to see you... (Score:5, Funny)
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Next time... (Score:4, Funny)
Wear good earplugs.
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Re:I once tried to secure a tiger (Score:2)
Re:I once tried to secure a tiger (Score:2)
Re:I once tried to secure a tiger (Score:5, Funny)
Does the tiger let you out for walks?
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"long pdf"? (Score:4, Funny)
But of course, I don't think anyone ever tries to RTFA, so the thoughtful gesture is lost on us....
Re:"long pdf"? (Score:2, Interesting)
There have warnings accompanying long related articles for time eternal - some people come here primarily for discussion (sort of like an online book club). The article is a "necessary nuisance" for this bunch, hence the disclaimer. For those who actually come for information it isn't so much of a concern.
Now since I'm here for discussion, what's the deal with
Re:"long pdf"? (Score:2)
Adobe reader, good gosh.. you now know why it took me so long to make such a small comment
Re:"long pdf"? (Score:2)
Re:"long pdf"? Not missed much... (Score:3, Interesting)
Yeah, 41 pages long. If you ever read "basic secure your Linux box", well, that's it. I'm dissapointed that a real Mac problem was not addressed. It allows you world writable Applications directory, and
It contains:
Setting password, Displaying warning, locking your firmware (well, this one is the only deviation from "Lock your box for real world dummies"), enabling ACLs
Does default matter? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Does default matter? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Does default matter? (Score:2)
A company would be foolish not to consider the security of the default install of an OS and comparing it with the security of others.
Re:Does default matter? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Does default matter? (Score:3, Insightful)
Corporate IT departments prefer working on applications, servers, and such. They abhor "help desk" duty which is what setting up drive images, desktops, and scuh.
So frankly, the IT department usually doesn't give a care what the desktop users use - its the help desk department that does.
Re:Does default matter? (Score:5, Interesting)
I've seen very secure corporate environments using OS X where everything works splendidly (including roaming profiles actually carrying _all_ of your settings with you). Also, the security manages not to get in the way of day-to-day activity.
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Re:Does default matter? (Score:2)
Re:Does default matter? (Score:4, Informative)
They're all turned off.
Even on the server version, only SSH is turned on by default.
Do you really need a firewall until you turn on any services? Most users will never do this. And they have a GUI for the firewall that allows holes for most typical services with just a check box.
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CIA still using OS X? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:CIA still using OS X? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:CIA still using OS X? (Score:4, Informative)
NSA did a pretty good writeup of Securing Mac OS X Panther Server [nsa.gov] earlier this year. One can still apply all the recommendations to Tiger Server.
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Secure swap space (Score:5, Informative)
Wait for it... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Wait for it... (Score:4, Interesting)
Anyone know if filevault's key is encrypted against anything apart from the user's key and the optional recovery key?
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Re:Secure swap space (Score:2)
staying secure (Score:3, Insightful)
More securing OS X links/pdf's etc (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.net-security.org/dl/articles/Securing_
http://eq.rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/radmind/ [umich.edu]
http://homepage.mac.com/hogfish/PhotoAlbum2.html [mac.com]
Best tip (not a flame) - simply don't run any Microsoft software, support open or other vendors software please, also W3C standards, thanks.
Windows password hash storage (Score:2, Interesting)
By default, OS X stores your password as a nice secure hash. However, it also stores it using Windows' shitty hash method, that takes approximatly 0.000000001 seconds to brute force with John the Ripper [google.com].
So it's advisable to somehow disable this functionalty.
Re:Windows password hash storage (Score:2)
Re:Windows password hash storage (Score:2)
Re:Windows password hash storage (Score:3, Informative)
Otherwise, you may be happy to know that on Tiger there is no "hash" subdirectory in
Maybe it's stored somewhere else. Or maybe Apple fixed this vulnerability in Tiger (your experience is with Panther anyway).
Re:Windows password hash storage (Score:3, Informative)
Apple fixed this in one of the recent Software Updates. It was mentioned in the release notes.
Re:Windows password hash storage (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Windows password hash storage (Score:5, Informative)
Cortana: "By default, OS X stores your password as a nice secure hash. However, it also stores it using Windows' shitty hash method, that takes approximatly 0.000000001 seconds to brute force with John the Ripper"
On Tiger, this is not true. In Tiger, one has to explicitly check a checkbox for each user, and enter that user's password, to allow those users to use Windows sharing. The sheet with these checkboxes states:
"Sharing with Windows computers requires storing your password in a less secure manner. You must enter the password for each account that you want to enable."
So, Windows file sharing is there, but Apple has not exactly made it easy to enable it.
Given this UI, I guess that there is no way to secure this weakness in Windows file sharing without breaking compatibility.
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Metadata in the PDF (Score:4, Interesting)
Move your keychain file to a removable disk (Score:4, Informative)
Good guide overall (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Good guide overall (Score:3, Informative)
The problem with chrooting on 10.4 now is that Apple's network home mounting method borks if you have
small world Durandal.
(dhaveconfig/netsrek)
Three thumbs up (Score:4, Interesting)
I had already applied some of the security recommendations, such as enabling security on Open Firmware, but I've just learned there are a plethora of other security options available on Mac OS X 'out of the box'.
There are options in Tigers security preferences that allow swap space to be encrypted and to avoid passwords being accessible in the clear when stored in memory and swapped to disk. Kernel core dumps can be be disabled for similar reasons.
Password policies! I had no idea Tiger could do that.
After going through this article and learning a bit more about how KeyChain works, I've started creating my own keychains to store 'Secure Notes' and I've finally accepted that Safari does do 'auto-logon' securely in the way it uses KeyChain.
This is a very good article.
Easy as any O/S to secure... (Score:5, Insightful)
1) Unplug it from any network.
2) Strictly control whoever gets physical access.
3) ???
4) Security!
Seriously... after watching some dipshit try over 4,000 times within the span of a couple hours to attempt buffer overflows on every listening port on my honeypot last Friday afternoon, before I finally blacklisted his entire class C from my router, I've come to the same conclusion that the DoD has... that NO computer connected to the Internet can be made secure... period... that you should only connect disposeable devices to the public Internet.
I even wonder if I'm not the bigger dipshit for sitting there watching this idiot half the afternoon, throwing the kitchen sink at my poor machine in vain, before pulling the plug on him and banishing his whole netblock.
Open Ports (Score:3, Interesting)
An OS without *any* open ports can still be vulnerable, by merely having a TCP/IP stack connected to a public network. Even if the stack merely can only respond to ICMP packets (no tcp or udp ports open, nor any other IP protocols enabled), it can still theoretically be vulnerable to DoS attacks via ICMP.
TFA makes no mention whatsoever of disabling ICMP.
Re:Most secure? (Score:2)
Re:Most secure? Says: mi2g (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/11/02/mi2g/inde
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Read before you sudo rm -rf / (Score:5, Informative)
Folks, sudo puts you into superuser mode and executes a command, rm. rm removes files, in this case, all of them.
Unless you enjoy completely rebuilding a system and losing all your data files, don't run this command.
Another tip: never enter console commands you don't understand.
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Re:Read before you sudo rm -rf / (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:You should also run Apple's bundled secure scri (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:You should also run Apple's bundled secure scri (Score:3, Interesting)
Windows has the same feature, so what?
On Linux you can install libtrash or any other kind of protection, which is much nicer than any filesystem default, so what?
On VAX all the versions were collected, so what??
It is downtime and service needed that counts not someone with EnCase. Problem is that you can do rm / by default and not what it does and not wheter Mac is holy or not.
Quicker way to secure a Mac (Score:3, Funny)
Re:That's all well and nice ... (Score:3)