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Final Fantasy iOS Game Shuts Down Over Unfixable Bug (theverge.com) 28

The Verge's Jay Peters reports: Square Enix has shut down the iOS version of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles and removed it from the App Store following an unfixable bug that blocked people from accessing content they had paid for. [...] The company says that if you made in-app purchases in January 2024 or later, you're eligible to request a refund by contacting Apple Support. Square Enix says that Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles will continue to be supported on other platforms. The game is also available on Android, PlayStation, and Nintendo Switch. "The issue is due to changes made to the in-app purchases model," Square Enix says in a post. "Further investigation revealed that we are unable to completely fix the bug and implement the new changes, making it unlikely to resume service for the game." Square Enix says it started receiving reports on January 24th about the issue, which "extends to the full paid version of the game."

Final Fantasy iOS Game Shuts Down Over Unfixable Bug

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  • Thank Apple. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 14, 2025 @05:48PM (#65167373)

    This is Apple's abusive store practices yet again making life painful for their users. But that's ok - they're users won't ever blame Apple.

    • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

      This is Apple's abusive store practices yet again making life painful for their users. But that's ok - they're users won't ever blame Apple.

      Millions of developers use Apple's in-app purchase system every day. If they can't figure out how to make it work, odds are, the problem is not the in-app purchase system.

      The way I read this is "We didn't bother testing on the latest OS version before it shipped. It broke something. We don't want to pay a developer to figure out what's wrong, because this game isn't making us much money anymore, so we're just going to shut it down and blame Apple."

      Sadly, that seems to be becoming the rule, rather than th

      • Re:Thank Apple. (Score:5, Informative)

        by HiThere ( 15173 ) <charleshixsn@ear ... minus herbivore> on Friday February 14, 2025 @10:16PM (#65167807)

        Well, if it's a system change that broke a program that was previously working, then blaming Apple is the correct thing to do.

        • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

          Well, if it's a system change that broke a program that was previously working, then blaming Apple is the correct thing to do.

          It's entirely possible that it was always broken, and it just took this long to get enough complaints for anybody to look at it. It's also entirely possible that they were relying on undocumented behavior, and that it only worked because of a bug that got fixed. So no, it isn't necessarily the correct thing to do.

          • It worked for over a year, then suddenly broke. The complaints didn't start until a few weeks ago.

            Also, from Square Enix's press release, "The issue is due to changes made to the in-app purchases model. Further investigation revealed that we are unable to completely fix the bug and implement the new changes, making it unlikely to resume service for the game."

            Blaming Apple is the correct thing to do. They made changes to the in-app purchase model that broke users' ability to access content they'd purchased

          • Apple has introduced breaking changes in iOS regularly for over a decade, constantly breaking people's allocating and forcing the developers to update or see their applications removed permanently from the store.

            Google has done it to a much lower level, and due to the open source nature of Android, if there's an Android game you played years ago, there's a good chance you can somehow run it in an emulator.

            No such chance for ios. Apple is definitely responsible for those breaking changes and making thousands

  • Yay! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RitchCraft ( 6454710 ) on Friday February 14, 2025 @05:57PM (#65167391)

    Three cheers for walled gardens ... Three cheers for DRM ... Three cheers for paywalls! Long live the cloud! Hip, hip, hooray!

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Three cheers for walled gardens ... Three cheers for DRM ... Three cheers for paywalls! Long live the cloud! Hip, hip, hooray!

      Except Apple didn't change anything.

      This isn't the first time either - Square Enix had to remove an app because they refused to modify their app - the location of a file changed and the way they accessed it used a path that was hardcoded. When Apple changed the location, if you did it the proper way using the API call, it transparently worked. But they chose to hard code the path and

  • by jovius ( 974690 ) on Friday February 14, 2025 @06:00PM (#65167399)

    If it is an unfixable bug it must be out of their control. Bug is surely an euphemism and they do not want to say the real reason.

    • by v1 ( 525388 )

      I'd agree, the only "unfixable bug" is a problem that's either beyond your control to fix, or some behavior that you are unwilling to fix.

      I wonder if this is a problem with the way they want their in-app purchases to behave? Like if they intentionally designed it in a way that violates some of Apple's ToS, to get a bigger cut of the purchase, and Apple finally is putting their foot down in 2025? So either Apple is blocking the method they're using to skirt the rules, or they've convinced (by threat of leg

      • We hired all the cheapest devs we could find that they claim we need to hire better people. Therefore the fix is impossible!

      • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        I'd agree, the only "unfixable bug" is a problem that's either beyond your control to fix, or some behavior that you are unwilling to fix.

        I wonder if this is a problem with the way they want their in-app purchases to behave? Like if they intentionally designed it in a way that violates some of Apple's ToS, to get a bigger cut of the purchase, and Apple finally is putting their foot down in 2025? So either Apple is blocking the method they're using to skirt the rules, or they've convinced (by threat of legal action) Square Enix to disable the code that's violating the ToS. And now since Square Enix can't have their way, they're taking the "nuclear option" of taking their ball and going home.

        It's impossible to really know without more information, but that seems to be the most likely string of events.

        My guess is that it probably has to do with not wanting to properly support replaying app store transactions. You're supposed to be able to replay the transactions and get back purchases that didn't get credited to your account correctly. But if you do things the stupid way and don't tie the identifiers from the in-app purchases to a specific server account, then it could be possible for someone to cheat the system and replay them after creating a new server-side account, and restart with all of their in-

        • by piojo ( 995934 )

          What would it even mean to replay transactions on a new device if your game and character has been transferred? And what would it mean if your game and character has not been transferred? Surely in either case, the replay would involve doing precisely nothing.

      • I think it's more likely they did the math and found the cost of fixing the bug was worth more than the revenue that they could get from the game.
    • Somone stepped on the bug, and we tried but we just can't get it buzzing again. It mostly just lays there oozing.

    • by znrt ( 2424692 )

      i haven't read tfa but what comes to mind as "unfixable": bug meant loss of data. so the code is fixable, but it's no longer possible to reconstruct state = screwed.

      really nasty bug.

  • They already know which users made purchases in the eligible time frame. They should just issue the refunds. By putting the burden on the user, the company will be taking the money and running.

    Not that this should surprise anyone but sad sad sad.

    • My guess from the description is they fucked up their data model and don't have a link between their users back to their Apple ID so they literally can't figure out who is who or who they would owe money to and have to rely on Apple's data and support to refund.

      What they should have done is asked Apple to just refund everyone and be done with it but that would be the ethical thing to do.

    • Well obviously, because they know that only a small number of people will bother, so they automatically get to keep the rest for themselves.

  • It's not a bug. It's because Square Enix doesn't want to update the game to handle purchase receipts signed with SHA-256 [apple.com].

    Crystal Chronicles was released in 2020. The game is essentially one giant collection of free demos, with IAPs to unlock the specific games inside. Square opted to do on-device verification of IAPs (which is generally a good thing), which means the app relies on purchase receipts sent over by the App Store.

    Up until 2023 [apple.com], these receipts were signed with an SHA-1 certificate, at which time

    • by Waccoon ( 1186667 ) on Friday February 14, 2025 @11:24PM (#65167877)

      So this is another example of having to constantly change things just to keep them the same.

      • Yes and no.

        Cryptography is one of the areas where a lot of leeway is needed. As computers get faster and algorithms get weakened by attacks, it is critical that old algorithms are retired and replaced with new ones that can stand up to attacks for the coming decades. Otherwise we'd still be using the now trivially broken MD5.

        Frankly, I'm surprised it has taken Apple this long to implement SHA-2 everywhere. The NIST stopped allowing it for digital signatures in government services over a decade ago, and web

        • by piojo ( 995934 )

          Otherwise we'd still be using the now trivially broken MD5.

          Note that MD5 is not that bad. It is still competent at protecting files against corruption or third party tampering, because a collision attack is not currently possible. The attack that is possible is when the data provider is the malicious party: the data provider can construct two distinct files with the same md5sum. This could be used to trick someone into validating one (binary, contract, etc) then actually using another. However once the data is created, it's not possible to subsequently create a sec

  • That's kind of like an immovable object or an irresistible force. These things do not exist.

    It would be more truthful to say that they don't *want* to fix the bug, perhaps because of the expense.

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