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Windows 11 Will Soon Add Your Android Phone To File Explorer (theverge.com) 56

Microsoft has started testing a new way to access your Android phone from directly within Windows 11's File Explorer. From a report: Windows Insiders are now able to test this new feature, which lets you wirelessly browse through folders and files on your Android phone. The integration in File Explorer means your Android device appears just like a regular USB device on the left-hand side, with the ability to copy or move files between a PC and Android phone, and rename or delete them. It's certainly a lot quicker than using the existing Phone Link app.
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Windows 11 Will Soon Add Your Android Phone To File Explorer

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  • by UnknownSoldier ( 67820 ) on Friday July 26, 2024 @09:52AM (#64657368)

    I'm kind of surprised it has taken Microsoft this long to support Android. Guess they were too busy pushing Zune support to notice that everyone switched to iPhones and Android. /s

    • >"I'm kind of surprised it has taken Microsoft this long to support Android."

      Yep.

      On any of my many Linux systems, regardless of distro or desktop environment, I can plug in my Android devices and they just appear in whatever file manager I am using. I will qualify that this is not through wireless/network, just through a regular USB cable. No "drivers", no "applications", no "cloud", no special settings, just plug it in and give permission on phone. Has been that way for many years.

      In the rare cases I would rather do it wirelessly, I just use the Airdroid Android app and plain Firefox on the Linux desktop. This connection gives additional functionality, such as remote photo taking, seeing battery charge, signal strength, reading/sending text messages, looking at phone logs, seeing notifications, etc. https://play.google.com/store/... [google.com] There are other similar applications as well. Again, no cloud needed, no drivers, although it is an app on the Android device installed.

      The article is about a wireless way to do it, but it also has lots of requirements to make it happen.

      • KDE Connect over WiFi has supported browsing my phone's file system since it came out years ago.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        It's the same on Windows. Android file transfer over USB has been supported since Vista. It's actually a USB standard.

        Microsoft let you run Android apps on Windows for a while. They have had other integrations too, but they all get killed off because nobody uses them.

        This though... I might actually use. I use FTP at the moment.

        • Not the same in Windows.
          Over USB, yes, it has always worked.
          Over Wifi, no.

          You can run Samba on Android, but unless it's rooted, it won't be on the standard port. And Windows has no way to select an alternate port.

          USB puts wear on the phone's connector. Many SOCs also have USB 2.0 data speed. But the Wi-Fi can rub at AC or AX speeds and actually ends up being faster than USB.

          I tried AirDroid and many other apps before. There wasn't a single one that allowed me to do what I wanted, which was to mount the ph

    • The "My Phone Companion" or "Link to Windows" apps have existed for at least 4 years. I use it to send text messages from my PC, view images, control media, and get notifications. It's awesome. 10/10.

  • Late to the party (Score:5, Informative)

    by Mononymous ( 6156676 ) on Friday July 26, 2024 @09:55AM (#64657382)

    I've been using KDE Connect [f-droid.org] for like a decade.

  • ... what could possibly go wrong?
  • Now let's see if they deliver. The year is today and it should be a seamless experience to connect my phone however and then it just *works*, wireless transfer speed aside. I tried the phone link stuff before but decided not to pursue further because it was both unreliable and inconvenient.

    • The only possible way it just works is if you log into your Microsoft account on both devices, agree to a EULA that gives them remote access to everything at any time on your device (you already agreed to that on desktop), and then deal with Edge opening up for some reason every time you double click on your phone.

  • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Friday July 26, 2024 @10:08AM (#64657426)

    A USB cable and file transfer enabled has caused my phone to show up in explorer for some time. It'd be nicer if it showed up like a regular drive with an assigned drive letter, but I haven't had any issues.

    For wireless access, I use Ghost Commander via SMB. Again, never been much of an issue, though it would be nice to have that work from the PC side so I can have a full PC interface to work with.

    • by Calydor ( 739835 )

      Yeah, I was gonna say this is how I grab a single photo off the phone when I need it on the PC and always has been.

    • Yea wired has worked for 13+ years over several phones. Agree that it appearing as a real drive would be nicer, but I had always considered that as something which needed to be fixed on the phone side.

    • Yea, I was kind of confused as well, as I have been able to plug my Android phones to my computer back with Win7 and it just shows up as a device that I can access through the Windows Explorer. I guess the new part is the wireless part, which could be nice? But wired has always worked will to copy files from one device to the other when needed; it's not something I do daily, or even weekly so grabbing the cord and plugging it it has never been too bad. I use to have to pop the back off of the phone and remo
    • A USB cable and file transfer enabled has caused my phone to show up in explorer for some time.

      Who said anything about a problem? Not everyone wants to reach for a cable to plug in every time they want to do something.

      That said I wonder what the point here is. With virtually all phones auto connecting your media to a cloud device your computer usually is able to "wirelessly" access the things you need anyway.

  • by msk ( 6205 ) on Friday July 26, 2024 @10:18AM (#64657462)

    Recently I have been using SimpleSSHD plus sshfs to copy files to/from my Android device. It's been more reliable than Windoze with a cable, which will sometimes just forget that the device is connected.

  • by Voyager529 ( 1363959 ) <voyager529 AT yahoo DOT com> on Friday July 26, 2024 @10:27AM (#64657492)

    https://www.fjsoft.at/ [fjsoft.at]

    File transfers, contact and calendar sync, notes, SMS sending and receiving, call logging, per-phone profiles...basically everything I'd ever want to use a computer to do on an Android phone, for free, over USB *or* wi-fi, open-source, everything locally stored...

    One guy named Franz > everyone at Microsoft.

    • by mrtumnus ( 1793406 ) on Friday July 26, 2024 @11:35AM (#64657758)
      I get your point, but your example is not OSS, only freeware. A better example would be KDE Connect.
      • I get your point, but your example is not OSS, only freeware. A better example would be KDE Connect.

        Thanks for the catch; you're correct. While the EULA is pretty broad regarding usage, I didn't find any OSS license indications or source code anywhere, either.

    • >"https://www.fjsoft.at/ [fjsoft.at] File transfers, contact and calendar sync, notes, SMS sending and receiving, call logging, per-phone profiles...basically everything I'd ever want to use a computer to do on an Android phone, for free, over USB *or* wi-fi, open-source, everything locally stored..."

      I see no evidence that "MyPhoneExplorer" is Open Source. At least, not anywhere on their website. Also, it is MS-Windows only. You can pretty much do all the same things with AirDroid, but it works with

      • Yeah... currently "freeware" until he gets enough users and sells it to somebody who will start charging for it as it typically the case these days.

      • The one feature I use MyPhoneExplorer for is the calendar sync from my work outlook to my private phone. Airdroid and KDE connect don't do this, afaict...
    • Another example of good German made opensource software.
      Lots of great stuff coming from German authors these days.
      Prost!
      • But it's not open source, merely free.
        At any point in the future it could stop being free, as well.

        • Yeah, I don't use windows, so I didn't look too close. I saw the German flag and correlated it to pretty much my favourite opensource software, Nextcloud, Proxmox, android:Conversations&Newpipe.. so I wasn't surprised to hear a rave review from the previous poster... there seems to be a good scene there for open source.

          Even Conversations (xmpp client) for encrypted messaging is 8 bucks on Google Play Store.. but also free on F-droid.. so, I don't blame them for wanting to make some money, it's definitel
          • Yeah, and I'm not against freeware, there's some awesome freeware and freeware-adjacent stuff out there, and I personally use Reaper (freeware-adjacent) and think it's a wonderful option for a professional-level DAW for example.
            OSS is the pinnacle of the pyramid, but somehow ya gotta pay the bills.

            • Hey, thanks for the reference to Reaper. I have a spare partition and I was going to devote to a music production box... I read Ted Felix's Midi page and liked the nuts and bolts approach... but might be interesting to try it out.
  • Now your phone can also get Nadella's spam! Oh Boy!

    • It'll be a cold day in hell when I put ANYTHING Microsoft on my Android phone..

      • by Targon ( 17348 )

        You have it backwards. The idea is that you can get your phone stuff on your computer once it is set up.

        • I read the article, one still needs to install a "Link to Windows" app from Microsoft on your Android device.

          This is in contrast to just using the in-built file transfer protocols via Bluetooth or USB that Android exposes natively.

  • I mean, I don't know much about hardware, but is there any reason that plugging an Android phone into a Windows machine shouldn't just cause it to be mounted as a generic data-storage device?
    • The fact that all of a PC's USB ports happen to be occupied by other devices, or that the only cable you have handy is a charging-only cable that passes power and not data. I seem to remember one major laptop maker making a thin laptop with only a single USB C port, expecting users to dock through a hub that passes power upstream to the host and data downstream to several devices.

      • >"or that the only cable you have handy is a charging-only cable that passes power and not data."

        That is a good point. It is a shame those [cheesy charge-only cables] even exist, as if having proper data/charge cables included with things would be that expensive. I am kinda spoiled because I tend to make sure ALL my cables will do both and toss anything that can't into a reject box.

        >"I seem to remember one major laptop maker making a thin laptop with only a single USB C port"

        Yeah, an annoying trend;

    • by omnichad ( 1198475 ) on Friday July 26, 2024 @11:18AM (#64657698) Homepage

      This new option adds wireless. Android phones used to show up as either a PTP (digital camera) or MTP (media storage) device. It would take a lot more unnecessary emulation to make it act as a generic mass storage device, especially since the phone also has to keep access to the storage during this time.

      It used to work OK most of the time, but newer devices with USB-C seem to have a broken implementation. The phones seem to get stuck trying to act as a host device (for connecting USB accessories to the phone) instead of as a USB peripheral device. And any attempts to switch will get you an error message. I don't know if the fault lies with Android itself or the specific manufacturers (multiple). And even when supposedly in host mode, the computer will sometimes see it as a storage device anyway.

  • by TractorBarry ( 788340 ) on Friday July 26, 2024 @10:55AM (#64657592) Homepage

    In related news, Microsoft are soon to release a bug report when it was found that this new feature was "accidentally" copying the entire contents of your Android device to OneDrive.

    Followed closely by another bug due to the data in OneDrive being "accedentally" fed into their AI models.

    • You'll need a device running Android version 11 or higher, be part of the Windows Insider program, and the beta version of the Link to Windows app to get the feature working right now. ... You can enable this File Explorer feature by navigating to Settings > Bluetooth & Devices > Mobile Devices and selecting the manage devices section to allow your PC to connect to your Android phone. A prompt will include a toggle for access in File Explorer, alongside the usual selections for notifications and c

      • Privacy aside - actually, that sounds like one useful feature if your managers are too stingy to buy you a $30 headset and a $50 webcam.

        They want us to return to the office but there's at least one team member working remotely that day so three of you crowd around one of the few desktop PCs with a webcam via Teams. And then they wonder why we're more productive working from home.

        (Oh, management said they ordered a bunch of webcams and stuff for a 30 person office but it never arrived...)

  • I've been transferring images and data from my Android devices for ages using a USB 3 (and previously USB 2 and 1) cable, it pops right up in file explorer as an external device with no hinderances.

    If they're talking about it working over wifi, great. Could have used that 15 years ago.

  • I cannot even conceive of being so extremely stupid as to be giving Windows access to my phone. Not ging to happen.

  • Its about effin time! This feature was on LG phones for a time before they just quit the phone business. They called it "AirDrive" it was absolutely fantastic to just have your phone as part of the file system at all times. I can't wait for this to be implemented again!
  • I'd rather them fix ADB (not working at all via the wired interface), remember Explorer sessions, or make proper bookmarks like a browser has instead of a monolithic list of pinned items mixed in with other hard coded items.

    It seems like they stopped innovating years or decades ago, and now they're picking features to implement... somehow. This is a good reminder to install Linux and give Dolphin another try.

  • This will only work when when:
    1 you log in with a Microsnot 'cloud' account
    2 you provide them with the phone number of the phone
    3 they can now aggregate your PC activities and your phone activities
    4 PROFIT!

  • Neat - so Windows has caught up with this feature that has been available on Linux for years in it's Dolphin file manager (part of KDE, I believe).

    Now we just need Apple to follow suit and support MTP on their iPhones :P

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