China Supplies Data To WHO About Clusters of Respiratory Illness

Chinese health authorities have provided the requested data on an increase in respiratory illnesses and reported clusters of pneumonia in children, and have not detected any unusual or novel pathogens, the World Health Organization (WHO) said. From a report: The WHO had asked China for more information on Wednesday after groups including the Program for Monitoring Emerging Diseases reported clusters of undiagnosed pneumonia in children in north China. As per the rule, China responded to the WHO within 24 hours. The WHO had sought epidemiologic and clinical information as well as laboratory results through the International Health Regulations mechanism.

Epidemiologists have warned that as, China heads into its first winter since the lifting of zero-Covid restrictions, natural levels of immunity to respiratory viruses may be lower than normal, leading to an increase in infections. Several countries, including the US and the UK, experienced large waves of respiratory viral infections in the first winter after Covid restrictions were lifted as people had lower natural levels of immunity. For young children, lockdowns delayed the age at which they were first exposed to common bugs.

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[Anonymous Coward]

any day now we'll all be dropping dead i'm sure

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[Anonymous Coward]

You wouldn't be able to stop us even if you tried, dipshit.

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[Atari1040STFMUser]

I wonder how many would be so anti-vax had they lived through polio.

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[Atari1040STFMUser]

I also typed those exact same words and them deleted them. But it would be interesting.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Ya, about that: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]

Regardless, I'm not anti-vax. I was "wait and see" with the clot shots. Then the lying started. The bullshit. And that sealed the deal for me; it was a scam. Can't say I was really surprised.

What was surprising to me was the number of gullible fucks that continue to support that scam shot to this day. You people are truly something else.

Re:jfc

[Opportunist]

I don't exactly support it: I got it, yes, but I am really on your side. The fewer people get vaccinated and the more that crap spreads and the more people croak, the higher the chance for another lockdown and another 100% WFH period.

I am really not opposed to people wanting to die for my comfort.

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[Opportunist]

Statistics [wa.gov] are supporting my "idiocy".

But feel free to present your rebuttal. I could use a good laugh.

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[Opportunist]

Oh, and, by the way: Like I said, I'm all for people not getting vaccinated. I really enjoyed the lockdown and I absolutely wish for another one. The fewer people get vaccinated, the more severe the infections, the more severe the infections, the more stress and burden on the hospitals and the more hospitals get close to being overrun, the higher the chance that the authorities will issue another lockdown.

In other words, I'm absolutely on your side. DO UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES get vaccinated!

I wholeheartedly

Re: jfc

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

You are doing what you claim you hate.

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[inode_buddha]

What was surprising to me was the number of gullible fucks that continue to support Trump to this day. You people are truly something else.

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[Opportunist]

Very few. My grandma actually punched a medical official because he refused to vaccinate me against smallpox when I was a baby since it was no longer a common disease.

She lost two brothers to that when she was a kid. Watching loved ones die kinda makes you sensitive to such things.

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[j-beda]

I wonder how many would be so anti-vax had they lived through polio.

Much of the historical anti-vax fellings were based on distrust of the authorities:

Montreal smallpox riots
https://www.washingtonpost.com... [washingtonpost.com]

Toronto protests in 1919
https://www.tvo.org/article/st... [tvo.org]

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[Anonymous Coward]

one remark and your goalposts shifted immediately

you guys gotta get your shit together and figure out what youre actually mad about its bewildering at this point

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[Opportunist]

Well, with more people not getting vaccinated, clogging the hospitals and spreading the disease further, the next lockdown is a matter of time.

Not that I complain, one or two more lockdowns and that whole RTO bullshit is history.

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[DrMrLordX]

The local vaccination rate is around 60% and the hospitals are doing just fine. Not sure what you're going on about.

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[Opportunist]

Well, there's still hope that people don't bother getting vaccinated and the next variant is a killer again.

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[Anonymous Coward]

So there ya go! Point out a fact, and get modded to oblivion, all because of tribal politics...
whatever, remember to buy low and sell high

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[thesandbender]

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily diseases. /s

Seriously, you're linking an outbreak of pediatric respiratory illness in China to canine respiratory illness in the US. Do you have any actual evidence supporting this? Are they both viral or bacterial? Do they have a common pathogen? Are the pathogens remotely similar?

Oh, they both have coughing, fever and labored breathing. That narrows it down to just about every seasonal disease that becomes more common when it's cold and people are indoors, in closer proximity and breathing drier air.

Nice try though. Here are some posies [loc.gov] for your trouble.

Not immune debt

[dragonworks2050]

Research consistently has shown that Covid causes long-term damage to the immune system, including reduced T cells and immune system genetic expression. We should be expecting known viral illnesses to be statistically more severe in those who have previously had Covid. Remember those clusters of unexplained pediatric hepatitis?

Re: Not immune debt

[SuperDre]

Well, I've seen (in my own direct surrounding) more people keel over after they had their covid shots then before, people who where perfectly fit and never sick turn around after they got their shot and had mysterious heartattacks, feeling very tired and being sick all of the time. Personally, I'll see with every different type of pandemic what I'll do, but with the covid one, I never tested or got my shot, and I was exposed to people with serious covid, but I never got sick (but of course took my distance

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[Opportunist]

Now that's an interesting hypothesis, some statistics to support this would be awesome!

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[ffkom]

Now that's an interesting hypothesis, some statistics to support this would be awesome!

See Figure 2 [oup.com] of https://doi.org/10.1093/ofid/o... [doi.org]

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[Opportunist]

Figure one [oup.com] shows a significant difference in infection incidence depending on prior infections. It's also quite established that the current vaccines are not as efficient against the newer variants as they were against the old ones. In combination, this does indeed make sense, if a vaccine prevented you from contracting an earlier variant and it's more likely to get infected if you have not been infected yet, you should expect to see a higher infection rate.

Fortunately the later variants are not as cripplin

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[Opportunist]

Sure, if you can't refute an argument, try to squelch it. C'mon, when has Slashdot become Reddit?

Want to offer some serious sources for this?

[Bruce66423]

Or should we dismiss it as merely alarmism?

No proper studies demonstrate efficacy

[Press2ToContinue]

The elephant in the room is that the CDC has admitted there are no double-blind placebo-controlled trials demonstrating efficacy of -any- vaccine, and no official vax versus unvaxxed studies. Even though the capability exists to perform these trials, the CDC denies this is possible. Instead, the trials are performed on the comparative basis of vaccine vs vaccine, not vaccine vs. no vaccine.

But more than 100 official papers do exist and they do not support government assertions. Vaccinated children suffer

Re: Not immune debt

[fintux]

Exactly. Also, immunologists say the whole immunity debt is a myth. Sweden had no lockdowns, yet they have now had two consecutive years of lots of respiratory diseases (in addition to C19, which is not a respiratory illness). There have been also lots of other outbreaks of diseases that didn't use to spread. Measles going rampant in russia, monkeypox in many countries, polio in the UK, ... The pattern is pretty clear, you first get a bad year of COVID and then you get a bad year of other diseases. The othe

Only fair they supply the data.

[Eunomion]

Given how often they supply the raw material.

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[AmiMoJo]

China is 17% of the world's population. More than Europe and the North America combined. It's inevitable that stuff will come out of China.

What really surprises me is that, after all the bullshit, they are still working with the WHO. Given all the stuff about the origin of COVID, and demands for the WHO to "properly investigate", it's too their credit that they keep on good terms. Blame only ensures that next time wherever it starts tries to cover it up.

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[Eunomion]

Ground zero in a pandemic that shut down the world for months was a few blocks from a bioweapons lab in a viciously nihilistic totalitarian empire, but it's a totally outlandish idea to look into that? Most investigations find it credible but the evidence soft. That's a far cry from "bullshit."

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[grasshoppa]

Both sides are horrible, yes. That's why I favor single day voting. Make it a national holiday, we'd have to be physically present to vote. Not sure why voter ID is so controversial, but ideally we'd have to show our ID to vote.

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[quonset]

Not sure why voter ID is so controversial, but ideally we'd have to show our ID to vote.

So make it simple. When you get your driver's license you are automatically registered to vote. Since you have to provide verifiable evidence to get the driver's license there is no issue who you are. No need to show ID.

As for those who don't or can't drive, they can still provide the appropriate evidence to either the DMV or Department of State (or appropriate state level agency which handles elections) and again, no

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[Shakrai]

What you're missing is the person who doesn't have a driver's license probably doesn't have the resources (e.g., paid time off work, bus/cab fare, babysitters for the kids) to make the trip to DMV/Department of State/whomever to register to vote. They may also lack the evidence (e.g., birth certificate) that you suggest they procure and getting it may be equally problematic for them. Might even be impossible if they were born elsewhere and 'elsewhere' is not easily accessible to them.

I have worked in ele

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[Opportunist]

Argentina is gonna be funny. I really gotta watch that sitcom.

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[cyber-vandal]

It's almost like they don't exist.

Talked to a parent in Beijing

[TheMiddleRoad]

Over the course of the last 3 weeks, soccer attendance dropped from 24 kids to 3-4 kids.

Probably RSV

[DrMrLordX]

Had the same problem here post-lockdowns.

Re: Probably RSV

[fintux]

Sweden had no lockdowns, but had the same problem with RSV. It's not immunity debt, it is immune system damaged by COVID-19. There's a lot of research on this (just search for T-cell exhaustion after COVID-19). Who knew, getting sick isn't making people healthier.