Survey Claims Some Companies are Already Replacing Workers With ChatGPT (yahoo.com) 142
An anonymous reader quotes an article from Fortune:
Earlier this month, job advice platform Resumebuilder.com surveyed 1,000 business leaders who either use or plan to use ChatGPT. It found that nearly half of their companies have implemented the chatbot. And roughly half of this cohort say ChatGPT has already replaced workers at their companies....
Business leaders already using ChatGPT told ResumeBuilders.com their companies already use ChatGPT for a variety of reasons, including 66% for writing code, 58% for copywriting and content creation, 57% for customer support, and 52% for meeting summaries and other documents. In the hiring process, 77% of companies using ChatGPT say they use it to help write job descriptions, 66% to draft interview requisitions, and 65% to respond to applications.
Overall, most business leaders are impressed by ChatGPT's work," ResumeBuilder.com wrote in a news release. "Fifty-five percent say the quality of work produced by ChatGPT is 'excellent,' while 34% say it's 'very good....'" Nearly all of the companies using ChatGPT said they've saved money using the tool, with 48% saying they've saved more than $50,000 and 11% saying they've saved more than $100,000....
Of the companies ResumeBuilder.com identified as businesses using the chatbot, 93% say they plan to expand their use of ChatGPT, and 90% of executives say ChatGPT experience is beneficial for job seekers — if it hasn't already replaced their jobs.
Business leaders already using ChatGPT told ResumeBuilders.com their companies already use ChatGPT for a variety of reasons, including 66% for writing code, 58% for copywriting and content creation, 57% for customer support, and 52% for meeting summaries and other documents. In the hiring process, 77% of companies using ChatGPT say they use it to help write job descriptions, 66% to draft interview requisitions, and 65% to respond to applications.
Overall, most business leaders are impressed by ChatGPT's work," ResumeBuilder.com wrote in a news release. "Fifty-five percent say the quality of work produced by ChatGPT is 'excellent,' while 34% say it's 'very good....'" Nearly all of the companies using ChatGPT said they've saved money using the tool, with 48% saying they've saved more than $50,000 and 11% saying they've saved more than $100,000....
Of the companies ResumeBuilder.com identified as businesses using the chatbot, 93% say they plan to expand their use of ChatGPT, and 90% of executives say ChatGPT experience is beneficial for job seekers — if it hasn't already replaced their jobs.
ChatGPT writing job descriptions? (Score:3)
Is it OK to submit a resume written by ChatGPT?
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Sure, if it is truthful.
Oh, well then let me be honest. Why shouldn't I hire ChatGPT instead of you?
Human employment, requires meatsacks as long as you justify it. When you fail to justify it, Greed has the answer. And you're WAY more expensive, meatsack.
Re:ChatGPT writing job descriptions? (Score:4, Insightful)
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If all you need is a resume writing employee with output that needs to be reviewed anyway, go ahead.
If I need to review everything my employee is doing, I'm not a supervisor. I'm a fucking babysitter who made the wrong employment decision.
Not all of us are as childish as you are. The real world requires adults, not children.
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And that is why this particular experiment is doomed to fail. You simply can't trust the output.
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Most journalists have their text reviewed by an editor before publication. A lot of what is published is just a re-hash of some AP or Reuter's story, with the particular spin and house style of the publication in question.
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you misunderstand the term journalist. well actually you correctly understand the new definition of a journalist and thus as before the journalism career is doomed.
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oh and don't forget to link the twitter as source data
journalism done.
Re:ChatGPT writing job descriptions? (Score:4, Insightful)
You've never been a supervisor, have you?
Re: ChatGPT writing job descriptions? (Score:3)
"Human employment, requires meatsacks as long as you justify it. When you fail to justify it, Greed has the answer. And you're WAY more expensive, meatsack"
This sword cuts both ways, sport.
Just hope you don't piss off one of your employees to the point he guns you down because obviously you didn't value his life, so why should he value yours, meatsack?
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Re: ChatGPT writing job descriptions? (Score:2)
That's not true at all. They didn't write him, somebody else did, they just buy ad space.
Seems legit. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Seems legit. (Score:5, Funny)
One source of meaningless work salad is probably as good as another. THe bot is probably an ideal replacement for most executive roles.
So Queen Kamala of the USA is actually a human incarnation of ChatGPT...since her speeches specialize in word salad.
I don't particularly like the choice of Vice President for America right now, but screw you for degrading ChatGPT like that. You really should understand that artificial stupidity is NO match for real stupidity.
Re:Seems legit. (Score:5, Insightful)
So Queen Kamala of the USA is actually a human incarnation of ChatGPT...since her speeches specialize in word salad.
It’s—look, you know, I have my own ideas. He’s [Putin] not going into Ukraine, okay? Just so you understand. He’s [Putin] not gonna go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it any way you want. - Donald John Trump Senior, failed former president of the United States of America.
Who is liable? (Score:2)
It will be interesting to see what happens when ChatGPT submits misleading or outright false public filings or regulatory information -- who will be held responsible?
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Is Congress liable for voting on a 40,0000 page bill after having it for only 24 hours? Ie. not enough time for a human to even flip through all the pages.
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Is Congress liable for voting on a 40,0000 page bill after having it for only 24 hours? Ie. not enough time for a human to even flip through all the pages.
Ironically you've made a justification to replace those we elect to Congress with scripts more than anything.
It's rather clear they don't intend to do their jobs to any human level when presenting the impossible on lawmakers, and the only reason to do so, is to deceive.
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You misunderstanding what their jobs are. They are there to suck up money, enrich themselves and make laws that help whoever donates the most to their reelection. It's clearly working as intended.
Oh, you thought government was for the people? Grow up.
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Is Congress liable for voting on a 40,0000 page bill after having it for only 24 hours? Ie. not enough time for a human to even flip through all the pages.
Yes.
Good luck fixing that though.
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It will be interesting to see what happens when ChatGPT submits misleading or outright false public filings or regulatory information -- who will be held responsible?
(Every Lawyer) "Who the fuck cares. All I see, is dollar signs."
Re:Who is liable? (Score:5, Informative)
who will be held responsible?
Why do people keep asking these kinds of questions? We have automation tools in the legal field that do all kinds of rote work. If it messes up, it's the law office that's on the hook for "should of caught it". This kind of question is already answered. If you use automation and it messes up, it's still on you to deal with the fall out. If you then really want to, you can go after the person who made the tool, but only after you've taken your hit. The only way you get to pass the buck on blame is if Congress or your State assembly passed a law letting you do so. And right now the majority of passing the buck laws we've got only deal with if you contract out. And even then only if your contract had language in it to allow so.
So long story short, if your automation messes up, you're the one that's got to deal with it. If some public filings mess up, it's the company that the filings apply to and more specifically the CEO's ass that's on the line (which I say that, but the biggest oh no that'll happen is they get fined which then gets rolled into the company).
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it's the law office that's on the hook for "should of caught it".
Let's hope they at least know how to spell "should have"...
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It will be interesting to see what happens when ChatGPT submits misleading or outright false public filings or regulatory information -- who will be held responsible?
With the existence of "corporation" abusive loopholes and laws, I'm just curious; why do you assume corporations today would suddenly care about responsibility? They certainly haven't proven it before when they were employing humans instead of scripts.
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Boss: Your jobs is being replaced by ChatGPT, sorry.
Grunt: So I'm being fired?
Boss: No, just reassigned. Your new job is to type questions into ChatGPT instead of thinking of the answers yourself.
Grunt: Well, I guess...
Boss: and also a 50% pay cut.
You did it. The crazy son of a bitch, you did it. (Score:3)
Remember when "Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script." used to be a joke?
Next thing you know, ChatGPT will escape and start eating lawyers.
Re:You did it. The crazy son of a bitch, you did i (Score:5, Interesting)
See, the humor in that statement was that there are actually a lot of people whose jobs could long have been automated away with some fairly basic tools and logic. But not everyone is good at writing those tools, so the job stays safe.
Now that we have a method of more easily automating fairly simple, repetitive tasks, or producing code snippets on demand, anyone's job that involved such things are likely in trouble, and will have to either expand their capabilities or find new work.
But still, most programmers, that is, people who actually solve real problems and don't just copy / paste / tweak shit are still safe for the time being. I think AI can get part of the way there as a great tool for helping programmers, but being able to completely understand in depth how to deal with an actual production environment seems like it's going to require near human-level understanding. At the moment, what ChatGPT can do is impressive, but when you examine it more closely, it's incredibly broad in capabilities, but still quite shallow.
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ChatGPT is essentially a research assistant. It is quite useful for that, especially within realms that it is well trained on. Still needs an expert to assess the information though and to some degree write the prompts.
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Next thing you know, ChatGPT will escape and start eating lawyers.
You act like that's some kind of threat to those who have literally written the legal system by lawyers, for lawyers.
There's a reason we don't call it a "Justice" system anymore. That said, you might be thanking a lawyer in the future, human. They might just stand as a fellow meatsack and defend your worth by justifying your continued employment against replacing you with a shell script.
(Yeah, I hate lawyers too. Doesn't mean we won't need them in the future, just like you need them when you need them n
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The main reason you need them is the law is written in such a way that you need them. We need to simplify the legal system so the person with the biggest wallet doesn't usually win.
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The main reason you need them is the law is written in such a way that you need them.
Let me know when a legal system written by them for them didn't convince you of that delusion. Then try and remember the concept of justice has existed LONG before the concept of "needing" a lawyer has.
We need to simplify the legal system so the person with the biggest wallet doesn't usually win.
Fucking hell. Talk about delusions. PROVE that the biggest wallet doesn't usually win first. THEN you can stand on that fucking delusion as a defense.
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There is no way to simplify the legal system such that lawyers will not be needed to navigate it. As much as we would like to believe that lawyers are only necessary because lawyers have forced their own necessity, it simply isn't true. They have never needed to do so. The enterprise of legal regulation is naturally complex enough that you will always need specialists to understand it.
Realize that we are talking about a system of regulation that manages hundreds of millions of people, most of whom are th
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> Next thing you know, ChatGPT will escape and start eating lawyers.
I believe that's already started. https://www.reuters.com/legal/... [reuters.com]
I wonder (Score:3)
It's an interesting mind game. Which do we reach first, the point where there aren't enough people to purchase products because they are no longer employable, or the point where the executives lose their jobs because their effort is replaceable?
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Could work if prices were to reduce drastically in sync with people making much less (I am reminded of the head of Panasonic saying something to the effect of making everything as cheap/accessible as water. Then you have opened your potential customers immensely). You could get to the worries of 60s economist of everyone working part time to maintain a comfortable lifestyle.
But
The move now seems to be buy the earth outright and turn everyone into a sharecropper.
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Still holding to my prediction (Score:5, Interesting)
All these ChatGPT stories are being driven by the companies and investors behind ChatGPT, who intend to do an IPO in the next 6-12 months.
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All these ChatGPT stories are being driven by the companies and investors behind ChatGPT, who intend to do an IPO in the next 6-12 months.
Snap Inc. filed an IPO where a reclaimed valuation of their company was reduced to "only" $20 billion. In their IPO filing documents, they claimed they had never made a profit, and may never make a profit. THAT, is how fucked "investing" is today.
If someone wishes to carry that delusion into a recession, at least let me grab my popcorn. This should be fucking rich.
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Ever read an S1 filing? They list everything from solar flares to nuclear war as risks. The list of risks in an S1 is stuffed, somewhat intentionally, with everything they can possibly think of in the case that it happens. Public companies are sued, constantly, for general day to day operations because some investor somewhere will scream you didn't tell me that the collapse of society will negatively affect my investment.
I'm not saying any of these things are good nor bad, really - but pointing to someon
Re:Still holding to my prediction (Score:4)
On the plus side, overly confident bullshit, like output from ChatGPT, does seem to be a remarkably marketable commodity these days. If a machine can churn it out, that's a lot cheaper than sitting humans at keyboards to generate bullshit all day. The thing is, once people realise what this stuff is, it it loses it's appeal, will they want to read it anymore? Will there be a human audience for it?
Then there's the issue of copyright but not how it's typically being argued at the moment. The thing is, courts have already decided on multiple occasions that output from algorithms, robots, machines, etc., i.e. produced without human intentional control, can't be copyright licensed. That means that all of ChatGPT's output is effectively public domain & anyone can do anything they want with it. It'll be interesting to see what this does, for example, to the publishing industry.
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Yep. Remember when Google were supposed to replace doctors & epidemiologists with their predictive algorithms? Their claims turned out to be mostly hot air & their super-smart tools only useful for speeding up specific processes under specific conditions.
Uh, when the doctor drug pimp slinging sponsored answers is the "solution" we have today, don't pretend even an artificial intelligence cannot discern between a legitimate business and massive corruption.
It's not exactly hard to see the cracks in the system today. Human greed is involved. Go fucking figure.
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The doctor is better but they cost significantly more. If you can save the doctor time, you can save your money. You are not replacing the doctor, just making things more efficient. Doctor's already barely spend any time with patients anyway.
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Re:Still holding to my prediction (Score:4, Insightful)
If a machine can churn it out, that's a lot cheaper than sitting humans at keyboards to generate bullshit all day.
Buzzfeed had an army of low paid humans to generate clickbait articles based on some very simple rules. This was determined by data that "Top X lists where number N will surprise you!" and "which power ranger are you?" did very well. And what happened? They refined their data driven process to the point they made themselves samey, irrelevant and just part of the background noise.
ChatGPT may be able to optimise this race to irrelevance, but I just don't see how a program doing statistical modelling and prediction can somehow achieve anything beyond what we already have but worse?
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ChatGPT produces nothing but regurgitrant (Score:2)
How? (Score:2)
At its core, a ChatGPT is simply designed to predict the next word or sequence of words in a piece of text based on the preceding context. This means that it has no actual understanding of what it is being told or what it is producing as output. The fact that it often appears to be coherent is more of a result of projection by the user than any reflection of its true capabilities.
The only jobs that ChatGPT could possible really replace as is are jobs where the accuracy of any output does not actually m
Re:How? (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't think that chatGPT is replacing a worker as much as chatGPT makes good employees 50% more efficient and so you can lay off 30% of your work force
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The only jobs that ChatGPT could possible really replace as is are jobs where the accuracy of any output does not actually matter, and all that counts is that the output "look" reasonably convincing to non-experts.
So ... first level tech support and politics.
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Management goes first (Score:3)
I had a co-worker who took the old 'spew' program (which wrote faux headlines from a vocabulary/grammar file and an RNG), reloaded the vocabulary file with standard corporate-speak and put it to work writing corporate mission/vision statements.
We had a contest where real mission/vision statements (suitably anonymized) were mixed in with the output from spew. It was surprisingly difficult to pick out the actual source for each.
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I'm fairly sure this is how Weird Al wrote his Mission Statement [youtube.com] song.
This is Oracle Larry's wet dream (Score:2)
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Forget your database going down and halting all your business, at least it is possible to recover from that. Replacing workers with ChatGPT truly means that your business now beholden to one company. More so, they can and will skew what ChatGPT tells to advantage themselves.
With all the evil that Larry Lawyer Inc. has brought upon business by selling a database product instead of a licensing lawsuit, I cannot imagine business being dumb enough to sign up for an Oracle ChatGPT.
Or at least as long as we hire corrupt greedy humans as CEOs.
Survey says... (Score:5, Insightful)
So a survey of "1,000 business leaders who either use or plan to use ChatGPT" found that almost half of them have implemented ChatGPT?
Amazing insight. Did the other half plan to implement ChatGPT?
ChatGPT replaced Slashdot editors years ago (Score:5, Funny)
and nobody noticed!
Don't believe it (Score:2)
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Put it into management, it seems qualified.
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A lot of jobs don't require thinking. They require you to do repeatable tasks. Plenty of jobs will still exist, but you will need fewer of them to accomplish more in the same set of time.
This all smells fishy. (Score:4, Insightful)
I will be convinced it has actually become useful when the Indian call center jobs are all gone. It's the lowest hanging fruit.
Third World Call centres (Score:2)
There is one purpose (Score:2)
I can only really see one good use of chat GPT and similar markov-chain-generators: undoing their own work.
When I see a pile of word salads and I dont want to bother reading it, if an un-chat-gpt bot could tell me "what inputs to you would result in this output" it would save me a lot of time.
"Create a legal boilerplate for XYZcorp"
"Make an argument in favor of idea ABC."
"What are the best criticisms of EFG?"
etc, will tell me what im looking at without having to waste time eyeballing all the nonsense.
Even b
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Just a nit-pick: The 'T' in 'ChatGPT' stands for 'transformer'. Those are decidedly not Markovian.
Free surplus labor can work on THIS (Score:2)
The survey is believable ... (Score:2)
Business leaders already using ChatGPT told ResumeBuilders.com their companies already use ChatGPT for a variety of reasons, including 66% for writing code, 58% for copywriting and content creation, 57% for customer support, and 52% for meeting summaries and other documents.
... and 100% for responding to questions about what ChatGPT is used for.
Hmm, companies are using ChatGPT for meetings that just happened, i.e., after ChatGPT was trained. Maybe I can get ChatGPT to write the summaries now of my meetings for the next year. Hello extra quiet quitting time!
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Brilliant! Blame AI when complainers are browbeat (Score:2)
"Oh, sorry, that was Al, short for 'Always Learning', our new AI, who had you in tears. Can I put you on hold while I find a tech to talk to you, or would you like to call back .... Hello? Oh darn, they hung up. Mwuhahaha!"
Do management next (Score:2)
89% satisfaction? That's about 89% higher than with human management, the solution is so obvious! ChatGPT did pass a MBA master exam and it's FREE, compared to some of the most expensive employees of a company.
It should be so obvious, why hasn't anyone had that idea yet, I have to wonder...
50% of the functionality for 5% of the cost... (Score:2)
Is still a winning formula for some companies. Literally every company in the world that comes out ahead in this equation will be replacing humans as soon as possible. All those chat icons on sites? Having a real human on the other end will soon become a quaint thing of the past.
Call center chat support and sales personnel will be the biggest losers.
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That's sort of the point. Instead of needing 5 people I can get by with 2 people instead. Pretty sure most jobs that are just filling out forms could be done this way. So most banking, loans, insurance, call centers, simple tax filing (w2 only), and more. You'll still need people involved, but not nearly as many.
Companies or people? (Score:2)
Are companies doing this or are people doing it?
I'm a person who happens to work for a company and I tried using ChatGPT last week to write some code for a task that wasn't important enough for me to have automated yet. I found that the code ChatGPT provided wasn't correct, but it was pretty close. Even more interesting was that when I pointed out the errors, ChatGPT responded with "You're right, here's the correct code" and gave me something that worked.
But on a different problem I found that it gave me ou
It's not even properly launched (Score:2)
Re:This whole article sounds like an ad (Score:5, Insightful)
It's just a matter of time though. There are just too many incentives to automate labor.
Humans don't really like labor. That's why humans must be paid to do it. Ultimately labor automation is removing something we don't like, and that's a good thing. We will have to grapple with issues of economics, sustainability, and finding meaning in life, of course. But none of those are reasons why we should stop automating labor. A world without the need for labor is, objectively, a better world. We just have to figure out how to build an economy that works within it.
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No - the excess profits get competed away (Score:2)
In the medium term competition in the industry will result in the price of the product falling. This is most obviously demonstrated in computing, where the real price of computing power has fallen through the floor compared with the early days. Yes, there are some industries where there isn't effective competition etc etc. But overall capitalism ensures that inventions are applied to production and the benefits shared around far far better than any state capitalism system.
Is capitalism perfect? Of course no
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Short of dismantling capitalism
This comment stems from a misunderstanding of what our economic system actually is. People have the freedom to make the best arrangements that suite them. Back in the 1600s, that was mainly subsistence farming.
automated labor profits go to the top 1% who own the automation
And this is wrong simply on the face of it. Joe Pleb wouldn't use these services unless they were a value add to him personally. So the benefits necessarily accrue to more than the top 1%.
Re:This whole article sounds like an ad (Score:4, Informative)
ROFLMAO
> People have the freedom to make the best arrangements that suite them.
Please explain to the class how Joe Pleb is supposed to afford these services when he is unable to get a job because all jobs at his level of capability have been automated, and he doesn't have the level of education/opportunity required to move upward? Your argument is pathologically dishonest.
We are _already_ seeing this in action. Look at the massively expanding Delivery industry (amazon fulfillment, uber eats, etc). And that's just one example among many. Higher and higher strata of jobs are being eliminated, leaving the people from those jobs stuck doing shitty gig-economy/public-facing service work like delivering donuts because those are the only jobs left for them.
The level of productivity gains for all this automation are huge, but it is ALL realized exclusively by the 1% that controls the capital. They will _never_ share that benefit with the people below them. COVID has demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt how the money flows. There is massive price gouging (not "inflation") across the board, all of which goes right into profits, not expenses, while normal people are losing their livelihoods and homes. There are endless stories of people who do have jobs, sometimes really good jobs, but still don't make enough to afford even a tiny apartment.
This was bad enough when it came to "unskilled" jobs, but now they're automating jobs that require a high level of training. People are spending $75+k on university tuition. And now they will walk out of university and be told that they are unemployable because ChatGPT has wiped out the need for all junior level roles. How are they supposed to get experience to reach more senior levels? How the hell are they going to pay their debt off? Oh and of course the laws have been written that declaring bankrupcy doesn't wipe away that debt, so you now have an entirely class of people who are effectively serfs with no hope of advancing in life.
So no, _you_ are wrong.
But labor has little to do with this?! (Score:2)
The thing is, ChatGPT isn't replacing ANY physical labor, short of making the stretch that a white collar job as a typist who looks up information online is doing physical labor?
Robotics can replace physical labor, but so far at least? Only in very specific scenarios. A company can spend millions on robotics/automation in a factory and still just have a bunch of arms that move around on a fixed base, in front of portions of a moving conveyor belt. If someone accidentally drops a box of ball bearings and the
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But people do like jobs where they can just make shit up. They're upset that this cushy job is going to AI and not to the village idiots.
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Have you read "Childhood's End [goodreads.com]" by Arthur C. Clarke?
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In other words, of those companies using or planning to use chatGPT, only half are actually using it, and only 25% are using it to do anything useful.
Try and understand the only metric the Executive layer cares about, is whatever sustains or increases their quarterly bonus. Beyond that, they don't give a FUCK about the business, which is why golden parachutes exist.
Try and understand most CEOs are technically psychopaths by definition. For a reason.
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There's nothing "technical" about it. They are psychopaths, plain and simple. And the reason is also simple: psychopaths have a selective advantage when it comes to getting positions of power, AND they are strongly motivated to seek positions of power.
Of course, if a psychopath is also an idiot, they aren't going to get very far. Probably they will wind up in jail, or dead from a car accident from aggressive driving, or what-have-you. There must still be sufficient intelligence to know how to play the g
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You've given quite an eloquent explaination here. I'm just left wondering how in the FUCK you assume all of this "control" you think we have over Greed N. Corrruption, has somehow resulted in more greed and corruption that easily out-fucks anything history can shit out. Keeping Greed at "odds" with each other has done fuck all to stop their worst behavior. If anything, it welcomes collusion.
The Disease of Greed has afflicted mankind for thousands of years. We'll likely die right here on this decaying ro
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The Disease of Greed has afflicted mankind for thousands of years.
Then maybe it's not a "disease"? Maybe it's a straight up Darwinian feature? It may be the natural state of being.
I was born in 1970. I heard about the "crisis in the middle east" for a couple of decades. At some point I questioned whether it was reasonable to call it a "crisis".
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It's stupid that's what it is. I can't think of a single job a ChatGPT can do except to be a social media influencer. Apparently ChatGPT is very good at influencing gullible journalists.
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Pretty sure ChatGPT could replace my insurance sells person. Most likely could replace the car salesperson and the help desktop staff. Could replace your typical bank teller. Any desk job that does repetitive tasks that doesn't see much variability could be replaced. Most DMV jobs could be replaced. If all you do for taxes is file your w2, that could be replaced, especially if you simplify the tax code a bit.
That's a lot of jobs that ChatGPT probably could replace sooner then later. In 5 years, when this th
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Its faster
Yes
cheaper
Yes
better
Debatable
accurate
Hahahaha!
and quantizable....
I'm not sure what that means in this context.
Brave new fucking world (Score:2)
"You are horse and buggy"
Now stay out of my trashcans, and don't think of being within a block of me while I enjoy my $25 lattee, and also "Not in my backyard" because who wants people of you non-economic strata grouped within 10 miles of them?
Haha, Sieg Heil, and I am so grea....wait..*I* am now "Horse and Buggy"? ..Waaa/-\/-\/-\...