Digital Nomad Communities Want to Build the Infrastructure for an Internet Country (thenextweb.com) 61
It's estimated there are 10.9 million digital nomads just in the U.S. — and two digital nomads writing for The Next Web point out they're just part of a larger trend. "As of 2021, there are over 35 million digital nomads
Are they also about to start changing the world? Digital nomads' growing numbers and financial clout have caused dozens of tourist-starved countries to update their travel policies for borderless workers. In Summer 2020, a handful of nations launched visa programs to attract digital nomads, starting with Estonia in June, then Barbados, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Anguilla, Antigua, and later, most of Eastern Europe. Now, 30+ nations offer some form of incentive for traveling remote workers. Sweetheart deals like income tax breaks, subsidized housing, and free multiple entry have become as popular as employee work benefits. The opportunities are so numerous, solutions exist just to help you "amenity shop" the perfect country Airbnb style...
Some ambitious nomads, like activist and author Lauren Razavi, have also started to advocate for their rights as global citizens and the future of borderless work... Remote workers like Lauren (and us) want to completely redefine the role governments play in digital nomads' movement and regulation. How? By laying the foundation for the next generation of travel and work, an internet country called Plumia... Plumia wants to build the alternative using decentralized technologies, while also working with countries and institutions on policies that achieve common goals... Begun in 2020 as an independent project by remote-first travel insurance company, SafetyWing, Plumia's plan is to combine the infrastructure for living anywhere with the functions of a geographic country...
Blockchain enthusiasts are also testing an approach that begs the question: are traditional countries still necessary? Bitnation advocates for decentralizing authority by empowering voluntary participation and peer-to-peer agreements. They've âhosted the world's first blockchain marriage, birth certificate, refugee emergency ID, and more as proof of concept... Currently in development, Plumia is focusing on developing member-focused services and content... Verifying a digital identity, maintaining a 'permanent address' whilst on the move, switching service providers and jurisdictions on the fly, complying with complicated tax and labor laws — these are all thorny issues to solve. Initiatives like Plumia are jumping into quite an active ring, however.
In addition to countries competing to serve and attract digital nomads, a number of well-financed startups such as Jobbatical, Remote, and Oyster are creating private-sector solutions to issues posed by people and companies going remote.
Are they also about to start changing the world? Digital nomads' growing numbers and financial clout have caused dozens of tourist-starved countries to update their travel policies for borderless workers. In Summer 2020, a handful of nations launched visa programs to attract digital nomads, starting with Estonia in June, then Barbados, Bermuda, Costa Rica, Anguilla, Antigua, and later, most of Eastern Europe. Now, 30+ nations offer some form of incentive for traveling remote workers. Sweetheart deals like income tax breaks, subsidized housing, and free multiple entry have become as popular as employee work benefits. The opportunities are so numerous, solutions exist just to help you "amenity shop" the perfect country Airbnb style...
Some ambitious nomads, like activist and author Lauren Razavi, have also started to advocate for their rights as global citizens and the future of borderless work... Remote workers like Lauren (and us) want to completely redefine the role governments play in digital nomads' movement and regulation. How? By laying the foundation for the next generation of travel and work, an internet country called Plumia... Plumia wants to build the alternative using decentralized technologies, while also working with countries and institutions on policies that achieve common goals... Begun in 2020 as an independent project by remote-first travel insurance company, SafetyWing, Plumia's plan is to combine the infrastructure for living anywhere with the functions of a geographic country...
Blockchain enthusiasts are also testing an approach that begs the question: are traditional countries still necessary? Bitnation advocates for decentralizing authority by empowering voluntary participation and peer-to-peer agreements. They've âhosted the world's first blockchain marriage, birth certificate, refugee emergency ID, and more as proof of concept... Currently in development, Plumia is focusing on developing member-focused services and content... Verifying a digital identity, maintaining a 'permanent address' whilst on the move, switching service providers and jurisdictions on the fly, complying with complicated tax and labor laws — these are all thorny issues to solve. Initiatives like Plumia are jumping into quite an active ring, however.
In addition to countries competing to serve and attract digital nomads, a number of well-financed startups such as Jobbatical, Remote, and Oyster are creating private-sector solutions to issues posed by people and companies going remote.
First rule of digital nomads (Score:3)
How the fuck can you write an entire summary and not tell us what a digital nomad is? Literally no idea.
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"How the fuck can you write an entire summary and not tell us what a digital nomad is? Literally no idea."
People who think that they don't have to pay taxes even after having been on the country for 183 days, which makes them illegal, undocumented immigrants and tax evaders.
Some countries now try to milk at least _some_ money out of them.
Re:First rule of digital nomads (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah, many of them are people who want to be able to fall back on the infrastructure and security of a country when it is to their benefit, but don't want to pay any of the money that makes that all possible.
Although some of them are just bloggers attempting to sound like something more important than that.
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-Job stealers too.
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Actually the opposite.
Emigrant workers not immigrant. (Can one explain why emigrant is written with one M and immigrant with two Ms?)
"Digital Nomad", people living in low cost countries and mostly working remotely for companies of their home country, or any other remote job. Most of them *think* that is legal, in both countries, without paying any taxes: obviously it is not.
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It's quite simple, really. It's the digital version of analog nomads.
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Analog nomads have a richer, fuller sound than digital nomads - much less tinny and squeaky.
Re: First rule of digital nomads (Score:2)
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Remember that digital nomads weren't always a series of tubes. They used to be parallels of tubes.
Digital nomads: mobile remote workers with laptops (Score:4, Informative)
Digital nomads are basically people who can do their job or run their business from anywhere in the world, using a laptop and an internet connection.
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I consider myself neither a "digital nomad" nor "remote worker", yet many apply either term to me. I've moved homes on average every 8 months for the past 25 years (rental contracts, not including hotels and couch surfing) in eight different countries. My own low duration average surprises me, as I don't feel that I've "lived somewhere" until at least a year (the "didn't work outs" and temporarily residences on the tail ends of re-location skew the numbers). It's only this year with ~95% reliable mobile bro
Re: First rule of digital nomads (Score:2)
About 25% down TFA: WHAT IS A DIGITAL NOMAD?
Where do you read that text? I don't see it in the summary nor in any of the links off the summary. (I only tried a few, there are a dozen or so links.)
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The anchor text "over 35 million digital nomads" links to https://abrotherabroad.com/dig... [abrotherabroad.com]
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They're people who travel a lot and don't want to claim any one place as home. Oh, and they use the internet, hence the "digital" part. I think most of them are travel bloggers, but in principle they could be any profession that allows or encourages sufficiently frequent travel.
Yeah, maybe some day people will get so used to the internet being a thing, that they won't feel the need to invent new terms for every single aspect of life, that imply doing it while using the internet. I look forward to that da
Most of these people aren't nomads (Score:4, Insightful)
They're digital homeless. For the majority of them, living light with no permanent residence is an economic necessity, not a desire. Land ownership and real estate need to be taxed progressively: The more you own, the higher the tax rate you pay. Owning a town and renting it out should incur an almost prohibitive tax burden, whereas everybody owning their own home should be taxed almost nothing.
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As long as all that math is relative to the city/area, province/state, country, etc.
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In other words, serfdom is utopia, because providing the best for the people who have no other choice is really what companies are all about.
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Just wait until he sees the bill for all these premium services.
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Why do Libertardians not know anything about history? Is it a requirement to join the cult, or what?
In company towns the company owns the housing, the stores, the financial institutions, the transportation, and the healthcare providers. Wages are maintained to stay just slightly below the actual cost of living, so every year workers end up deeper in debt than they started the year. Workers are not allowed to leave the town as long as they still owe the company.
My great-grandfather inherited his father's
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From the times I've briefly passed through, I got the sense that it was relatively free of crime, as you suggest. That seems to be supported by some statistics [city-data.com] as well: "The 2013 crime rate in Clifton, AZ is 121 (City-Data.com crime index), which is 2.2 times smaller than the U.S. average." I met a guy there in his 80's who was born and lived his whole life there, so I guess he lik
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A company town would be awesome.
You gotta be trolling, bro. Not even an libertarian can be this stupid.
Re: Most of these people aren't nomads (Score:4, Informative)
Excellent comment. The greatest frustration for millions of US working homeless is driving through endless, undeveloped land (mostly in the west) thats just being held as an investment with no tax burden, while you can never buy any property as your paychecks are consumed by rent - which literally goes to paying off the property you are living in for someone else. Endless labor and strife all to buy the 17th house for a rich landlord who has never produced a thing in his life.
Re: Most of these people aren't nomads (Score:2)
The greatest frustration for millions of US working homeless is driving through endless, undeveloped land (mostly in the west)
BS. You can buy a low-end 3 bed, 2 bath house in Tucumcarie for $70k, and a nice one for $170k. Literally anyone with a tech job can afford those prices.
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But are there tech jobs in that area that offer enough income? No idea, just asking.
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No, no tech jobs directly in Tucumcarie. Nor much of anything else. But we're talking about digital nomads here, and the post I was replying to complained about how these poor, poor people were actually homeless, and would love to be able to buy something in the great western US, but it's somehow not possible.
Which is nonsense. If someone really is a digital nomad, and is willing to live in the middle of nowhere, there is plenty of nowhere available for very affordable prices. I've been in and through Tuc
Re: Most of these people aren't nomads (Score:2)
Thanks for sharing actually, Im a nomad in the market and NM is gorgeous. But as someone who lives there, whats the catch with NM why all the ghost towns and low development, Is it about water? Lack of industry?
As far as the original point, the bigger issue is land prices, and the state with the biggest issue for arrested development is CA. The problem is people making money without producing anything. If government wants a strong economy they need to incentivize production, farms, ranches, businesses, live
Re: Most of these people aren't nomads (Score:2)
Also to be fair, I should add on Fed govt owns 47% of the land in the western 11 and does nothing with most of it. If I was prez, I would announce Indian reparations, parcel it out and gift a parcel to each individual native, and just just let them sell as they like to reintroduce it to the market.
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Sales taxes are regressive, so I'd hope to avoid that too.
That seems to leave a progressive income tax, but often that'll never pass since the rich people hate it (who donate to get pick who gets elected).
Re: Most of these people aren't nomads (Score:3)
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Property tax is entirely the fault of the smallest level of government; the school board. 90% of my property tax goes to public schools.
That really depends on what state you live in
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As George Carlin said "We don't have a homeless problem in this country, we have a houseless problem!"
I was under the impression that most of the "digital nomads" in the US are working out of an RV. They usually pick a state with low taxes as a "home location" P.O. Box.
The naivette and lack of awareness (Score:5, Insightful)
is breathtaking.
A "digital nomad" in a "borderless" world is only able to access the world at their fingertips because they have stores of currency issued by a sovereign state stashed away in a bank account operating under the laws of (possibly another) sovereign state.
That whole "rule of law" thing that lets you rest easy knowing your dollars or euros or even rmb won't vanish from your account because someone doesn't like your face...that's intimately entangled with someone having a monopoly on violence to enforce property rights, and with that monopoly having legitimacy in the eyes of a constituency on whose geographic territory that monopoly on violence is asserted and mutually recognized by other similar actors.
You only get to live it up on island nations because there's a big bad mainland that'll send in the troops if your hosts start to get sticky fingers. In places where the troops won't be sent anymore (Haiti, Somalia, etc)...well...good luck trying to pull that jet setter global citize. shtick. The locals might let you putter on for their amusement before they do their thing.
Re: The naivette and lack of awareness (Score:4, Insightful)
And who's army ensures that the data lines through which you get your bitcoins don't get cut?
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Indeed.
However, there's an argument that borders are a somewhat antiquated concept. Taking Europe as an example, they got rid of a load of borders and are better for it. Indeed, the US has very thin borders between states, which as been one of the ways such a large land mass has produced such wealth. The US/Canadian border is pretty thin too - it has lots of reciprocal agreements and preferential options on both sides - again, to both countries benefit. I recently found out that Japan and Ireland have quite
Re: The naivette and lack of awareness (Score:3)
If the people on both sides of the border have compatible thoughts between their ears, then no, the border is just a formality.
But beyond Canada/US and Ireland/Northern Ireland (hehe) there are few places where that's true. Even in South and Central America, different countries have taken different paths since throwing off the yoke of the Spanish and Portuguese crown. Venezuela went way left, Colombia didn't...and the border between them has people flowing in one direction, rather than the reciprocal flows
"Are traditional countries necessary?" (Score:3, Insightful)
The perennial question of the anti-social asshole who just don't want to pay tax.
Nomads have always existed, but are these nomads? (Score:3)
There are known resources for them; there is information about the lifestyle. Nomads are often found in hostels, rural countryside settings or Himalayan mountaintops. Up to now, nomads tended to be frugal, curious people with a backpack or VW bus. A 'digital' nomad shouldn't have much difficulty finding resources and information. Presumably they are using the internet.
I wonder if this article is about wealthy wanderers. We used to call them the 'jet set'. Thus the emphasis on taxes and the eagerness of governments to cater to their whims. Then add activism, blockchain, nation building -- I don't think these are nomads in the usual sense. Find a different name; perhaps bored rich travelers with credit cards.
Can't get behind a country called "Plumia". (Score:2)
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But you'll be able to use their blockchain enabled deed poll to give yourself an official 'nom-de-Plumia'...
Which modern day erudite wouldn't want that?
Passports, anyone? (Score:2)
Call them by their name! (Score:2)
Chickens get back in the cage (Score:1)
The vitriol of the comments here.
The chickens that escape the cage don't need to fear the fox. They need to fear the other chickens still in the cage complaining about them.
Yeah, taking advantage of geoarbitridge is bad? So, you're supposed to stay in the country you're born in until homeless, while your job is outsourced to a cheaper country?
I'll appeal to capitalistic tenancies: if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Go to those cheaper countries and fight the fight that is _the market_. Stop treating tax and n
Better! (Score:1)
Remote Working (Score:1)