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UK.gov Is Launching An Anti-Facebook Encryption Push (theregister.com) 33

The British government is preparing to launch a full-scale policy assault against Facebook as the company gears up to introduce end-to-end encryption across all of its services. The Register reports: Prominent in details briefed to the news media this week (including The Register) were accusations that Facebook harbours paedophiles, terrorists, and mobsters and that British police forces would effectively be blinded to the scale of criminality on the social networking platform, save for cases where crimes are reported. It's a difficult and nuanced topic made no simpler or easier by the fact that government officials seem hellbent on painting it in black and white.

Government and law enforcement officials who briefed the press on condition of anonymity earlier this week* sought to paint a picture of the internet going dark if Facebook's plans for end-to-end encryption (E2EE) went forward, in terms familiar to anyone who remembers how Western nation states defended themselves from public upset after former NSA sysadmin Edward Snowden's 2013 revelations of illegal mass surveillance. The US National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) generates around 20 million reports of child sexual abuse material (CSAM) every year, of which 70 per cent would be "lost" if E2E encryption were put in place, claimed British officials.

The government's long-signaled push to deter Facebook from implementing E2EE comes, inevitably, at a significant cost to taxpayers: London ad agency M&C Saatchi has been hired at an undisclosed cost by the Home Office to tell the public that Facebook (and WhatsApp) harbours criminals. The ad campaign will run online, in newspapers and on radio stations with the aim of turning public opinion against E2EE -- and, presumably, driving home the message that encryption itself is something inherently bad. Other announcements due this week, from notoriously anti-encryption Home Secretary Priti Patel and intergovernmental meetings, will explicitly condemn Facebook's contemplated rollout of E2EE.

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UK.gov Is Launching An Anti-Facebook Encryption Push

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  • Consistent (Score:4, Informative)

    by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 ) on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @05:09PM (#61777119)

    Would be consistent with existing law in the UK, where VPN providers are already required to log everything you do.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Facebook harbours paedophiles, terrorists, and mobsters

      The UK government hates competition, everyone should know that. If you want to be a successful paedophile or mobster, be one in parliament, not on Fecebook.

    • Anyone done studies of how much speech has been chilled because of this kind of monitoring? It must be obvious to all UK citizens they are being spied on. Same thing has very likely been happening in the USA since the Snowden revelations. At the very least everyone is probably starting to treat what they choose to click on as a vote, intentionally spending their attention only on things they think are important (whether for or against) and avoiding clicking on anything they do not want associated with th
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      That's not quite right.

      Originally there was a requirement for various telecommunication providers to keep some logs, but it was declared incompatible with the EU Charter on Fundamental Rights. So the law was amended in 2018 to only require it on receipt of a valid request from the Secretary of State.

      Of course now that the UK has brexited itself in the foot there is nothing stopping the government from changing that.

      For VPN providers based outside the UK it's not entirely clear what the legal situation is. I

  • ... the Fifth of November.

    (International Bank-Run Day)

  • by FeelGood314 ( 2516288 ) on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @05:19PM (#61777145)
    I'm fine with some surveillance by the state as long as it is transparent and done with oversight but our governments have repeatedly shown they can't be trusted. It isn't even a trade off between safety and privacy. If the police don't have oversight they will screw up and waste huge amounts of money, money that they could have used keeping me and the ones I care about safe.
    • If surveillance by the state was transparent, then the public would generally have the right to know what kind of dirt they've dug up on you. Otherwise, how would you know what they're doing with what they've gathered on your neighbor?

  • by NotInKansas ( 5367383 ) on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @05:34PM (#61777175)
    Your banking should be visible and accessible to all.
    Why are you trying to hide your medical records?
    For that matter, why do you have shades or curtains on your windows? Physical windows, not Microsoft which needs curtains.
    You should not be allowed to whisper, you might be plotting something.

    "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him."

    Cardinal-Duc de Richelieu et de Fronsac (9 September 1585 â" 4 December 1642)
  • A load of crap (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @06:22PM (#61777289)

    If that kind of security makes things difficult for the cops, it also makes things difficult for the criminals. If something is widely available to the public, it's widely available to cops. They're part of the public, you can't tell an anonymous cop from an anonymous non-cop apart on the Internet.

    So to find the smaller enterprises, it means returning to social engineering, informants, and detective work instead of hoping you can just look something up on social media... except of course with a warrant they'll give you access anyway.

    Boo hoo. You're paid to do a job, and you are supposed to do it in a way that makes the world better, not worse. If that makes your job a bit more difficult... THAT'S THE JOB.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      The UK idolizes cops, and often rules are made on the assumption that they can police themselves.

      For example, cops were given the power to request search records from search engines. Each request is reviewed by the police themselves. Turns out they were rubber stamping 100s of thousands of requests per year. That was not considered to be a problem.

  • with a chainsaw. I hate it that those hypocritical bastards, (who protect at least one pedophile in their parasitic royal family), force me to side with Facebook on anything.

  • by jaa101 ( 627731 ) on Wednesday September 08, 2021 @10:33PM (#61777911)

    "An Anti-Facebook Encryption Push" is a push to be anti-Facebook by using encryption.

    "An Anti-Facebook-Encryption Push" is a push against Facebook's use of encryption.

  • You left out a horseman [wikipedia.org], dear feds.

    Seriously, they don't even try to hide it anymore. Are we already that complacent?

  • For those who have difficulty translating government-speak.

    The UK government is saying that if they can't monitor everything you (and everyone else) do 24/7, some people might get away with crimes.

    • Governments all over the world keep saying this shit, but have we seen anything come of it? I mean, they keep saying they need ALL THE DATA ALL THE TIME TO STOP CRIME! But does it every lead them anywhere? Are crime rates down across the board? Uh, no. Not really. So what good does making us all feel anal probed twenty four seven do? Do governments just have a fetish about filling hard drives? Do they even know how to sort through the data they've already stolen from us? It's frustrating as hell t

  • "The UK Government" is what is meant.

    Style over fashion.

  • now hand over your papers peon.

    Oh and we need an extra 5 quid a week off you all to redecorate the Palace and cover the cost of Charles's correnation.

  • London ad agency M&C Saatchi has been hired at an undisclosed cost by the Home Office to tell the public that Facebook (and WhatsApp) harbours criminals.

    As a UK citizen who has been observing the actions of my government over the last few years, it is my opinion that the UK government harbours quite a lot of criminals.

  • Ironic, considering this particular UK government, as "VoteLeave", won its stupid Brexit using stolen, unencrypted data from Facebook [theguardian.com]

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