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Courts Sentence Men for Pirating Thousands of Movies and TV Shows, Including Via Plex (torrentfreak.com) 78

An anonymous reader shares a report: Following the dismantling of several private trackers in 2020, a man has been sentenced for sharing thousands of TV shows and movies via now-defunct torrent site DanishBits. In a separate case, another man has been convicted of sharing 9,440 movies with a relatively small circle of family and friends using the popular Plex media server.
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Courts Sentence Men for Pirating Thousands of Movies and TV Shows, Including Via Plex

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  • Whew! (Score:5, Funny)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:03PM (#61198546)

    Courts Sentence Men for Pirating Thousands of Movies and TV Shows

    Weird headline! I thought all men in general were being sentenced as a group, and I was headed to jail for the wonton movie sharing of others.

    Turns out it's just a handful of men, not all men! Whew!

  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:14PM (#61198574) Journal

    TFA: "In December 2019, Rights Alliance filed a criminal complaint against a Denmark resident after discovering he was running a Plex server containing copyrighted content. It was a Plex server running on a NAS-server and operated from a Mac Mini. The owner and operator of the Plex server shared the content with friends and family. They were sent a password by mail,” the group explains. While the Plex software is entirely legal, like other media software it can be put to illegal uses. Prosecutions are extremely rare, especially when people only share their libraries with close friends and family, but in this case Rights Alliance felt a criminal case was warranted."

    What's the rest of the story here? I mean, practically everyone I know running a Plex server has some copyrighted/commercial content shared on the thing. If nothing else, that's just because a lot of people use one as their digital backup of physical DVDs or music CDs they own and ripped. (It's really practical, from the standpoint you can just put the originals away for safe-keeping in boxes, and have access to the content itself without having to physically bring the disc(s) along with you.) And once you've done that, chances are good you'll open it up to share it with some good friends or other family members who ask about it. I mean, it's not that different from letting them sit on your couch and watch the shows or listen to your CDs on your home stereo.

    I think that's why almost nobody is ever prosecuted over that use of Plex. It doesn't really lend itself to "mass piracy", especially when a lot of users might be asking your server to hardware transcode content on the fly, and that limits how many people you can serve the content to.

    • I'm guessing there was some money exchange involved in access.

    • by N1AK ( 864906 )

      What's the rest of the story here?

      Exactly! Frankly I'm going to assume the small circle of friends was hundreds and the prosecution was more than justified just because the summary is so half-arsed.

      • by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:10PM (#61199046)
        Also from TFA: "Earlier this month the conclusion of another file-sharing case was reported by SØIK. Following a process at the Copenhagen City Court, a 35-year-old man was convicted of downloading and sharing 9,440 movies.

        According to SØIK, the movies were made available “to at least 21 users via a server” and for this offense, he was sentenced to 30 days probation. TorrentFreak requested additional information from anti-piracy group Rights Alliance which has now revealed a completely different type of case."

        So.. 21 friends? This seems excessive effort for such a small time criminal mastermind. WTF is rotten in Denmark these days.
        • by mysidia ( 191772 )

          So.. 21 friends? This seems excessive effort for such a small time criminal mastermind. WTF is rotten in Denmark these days.

          The only thing I could think of is that maybe it used to be 22 friends, and the owner didn't know about former friend #22's major political connections before kicking them out.

      • I don't see any reason copyright infringement should be a criminal offense at all. Why can't the rightsholders sue for damages if they think they have a case?
        • by dryeo ( 100693 )

          Most countries don't allow large settlements for minor stuff like copying a DVD. Here in Canada, they can sue for the price of the DVD (actually a hundred dollars) with a max of a five thousand dollars. They do lie and claim that they'll sue you for a lot.
          Commercial pirating can result in jail time
          Sometimes it is worse like after we got the music levy on cassettes and blank CD's. When they tried suing someone for pirating music, the courts ruled it was legal due to the levy as the levy was a payment to the

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        Well as long as not more that one connection, was viewing any particular slice of content at any one time, there is no crime. Is that not true.

        The horror someone shared content, execute them. Even lending a DVD you own to someone should be punishable by imprisonment and a major fine. So what is the difference between lending someone a DVD or allowing them to access a digital backup of a DVD you own, accessing it, one at a time.

        The difference psychopathic greed. A diseased society, that values entertainment

      • by Calydor ( 739835 )

        Dane here. We don't really have circles of friends numbering in the hundreds. If he was serving to that many people they were friends, family, coworkers, and most importantly friends, family, and coworkers of the aforementioned.

    • Bigger question - how was this discovered?

      Sounds like someone informed on him, or he was hacked.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        Bigger question - how was this discovered?

        Sounds like someone informed on him, or he was hacked.

        Or his "small private circle of friends" has a different meaning of "small" than common usage.

        I mean, Plex is 95% of the way to creating a streaming service, minus the authentication and a few other things, so it's possible to provide monthly access to it to a few hundred people or more in exchange for a small fee. You buy in, you get the password and you can stream away - probably even download for later offline

        • I kind of doubt it would include anything resembling a large set of users if he was hosting it on a mac mini.

          • Eh... if you limit it to direct play only and disallow transcoding you'd be surprised how many streams you can cram through relatively little hardware. Your bottleneck actually becomes your Ethernet connection rather than the processor. If the box is just streaming the media directly then those boxes can scale pretty far. For reference, I use 20mbps as a rough guide for 1080p content... so if reading from a NAS and streaming then double that. Of course, you can also add a USB network interface even to a Mac

    • From what I can find the thinking is that they were going after users of DanishBits, the movie sharing site. The guy running the plex server was one of their top users. It just so happened that he was running the plex site and that is what they decided to use to prove he has pirating movies; easier to do that vs that he download and shared via bittorrent.
    • that's just because a lot of people use one as their digital backup of physical DVDs

      I use my physical discs as backups to Plex/SMB/etc but I don't go advertising or sharing anything. Ripping protected DVD or Blu-Ray content is still illegal under the DMCA even if it never gets shared.

    • You honestly think he legally acquired all 9440 movies? Yeah...no.

      • I've recorded tvshows myself and movies as well, ripped a few family and friends dvds. I just looked and after 15 or 20 years of collecting, around 7,000 video files plus another 3,000 for music. So yeah 9000 isn't a real big number. I refuse to get caught up in a "stealing from the artist" discussion when a lot of this is over 40 years old, fuck copyright. When I was born copyright was shorter and its gonna stay that way for me.
      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        My wife likely has that many DVD's and Blurays. All bought legally, mostly 2nd hand where sometimes the local thrift store sells them at 10 for a dollar (usually a dollar a piece). So those 9440 movies could have only cost a hundred dollars.

        • mostly 2nd hand where sometimes the local thrift store sells them at 10 for a dollar (usually a dollar a piece). So those 9440 movies could have only cost a hundred dollars.

          For the math-impaired, "10 for a dollar" and "9440 movies" is "about a thousand dollars", NOT "a hundred dollars"....

          • Riiiight, and the fact that he was implicated in the use of that torrent site totally makes this more plausible than him acquiring them illegally.

    • Rights Alliance filed a criminal complaint against a Denmark resident after discovering he was running a Plex server

      "Discovering." How did that happen? Port-scanning, social (they asked him and he told them), or what?

  • 60 days in an very easy lockup!

    • by geekmux ( 1040042 ) on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:43PM (#61198700)

      60 days in an very easy lockup!

      Rather silly way of looking at it when any average employed adult being forcibly removed from their job for two months, won't likely have one to come back to. You saying your employer would understand?

      Not to mention that rude bastard named Bill Collector, who patiently waited for the impound truck to get your car out of the driveway so he can pitch a tent and wait for your convicted-criminal butt to get done with your involuntary "sabbatical".

  • 30 days probation (Score:5, Informative)

    by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:17PM (#61198596)

    Here in the USA they would use the $250k per infringement figure and multiply that by 9440 for a settlement. We can pay off the national debt in no time!

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:21PM (#61198608) Journal

      Some bloke who pirates cartoons gets a stiffer penalty than Wells Fargo and Boeing executives.

      • by sconeu ( 64226 )

        I'm shocked, Shocked! Well, not that shocked.

      • Some bloke who pirates cartoons gets a stiffer penalty than Wells Fargo and Boeing executives.

        psssst - Hey - I know a guy who can get ya some illegal Pepe le Pew cartoons. The good illegal stuff. You in?

      • by bn-7bc ( 909819 )
        Yeas because said CEOs have teams how rathert large leageøl teams reoresenting thenm and not (as I supect in this case) on single person
        • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

          Our laws under-penalize top managers as written. Also, our convoluted legal process does indeed favors Plutocrats because they can afford an army of lawyers to navigate the convolution.

      • It's like, you know, share a Michael Jackson's song, get 5 years in jail ; kill Michael Jackson, get 4 years in jail.

      • Don't mess with the mouse!
    • Here in the USA they would use the $250k per infringement figure and multiply that by 9440 for a settlement. We can pay off the national debt in no time!

      When the RIAA was suing for insane amounts of money against little girls, college students and grandmas, they were winning their cases, getting insane judgements against people who would probably never make that much in their lifetimes, it turned out to be a losing move. The victims were represented pro bono, were going to appeal every case as far as they could until they couldn't any more - then claim personal bankruptcy, and were giving the RIAA a black eye, and costing a mint in legal fees. That's the r

  • by amorsen ( 7485 ) <benny+slashdot@amorsen.dk> on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:08PM (#61199036)

    Rettighedsalliancen changed their name from Antipiratgruppen. Antipiratgruppen got too much bad press, including a "correction" from Advokatsamfundet, the Society of Lawyers.

    One of the main lawyer behind Antipiratgruppen, Johan Schlüter, was convicted of fraud.

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