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Admit It: You Have a Box of Cords You'll Never, Ever Use Again (wsj.com) 246

What's this one for? Who knows! Electronic gadgets fade away but their cables live on forever at home. From a report: There's a box that moved with Sarah Loveless and her husband from San Diego to Charleston, S.C., from Charleston to Dallas and from Dallas to Richland, Wash. The box, never unpacked, went into a closet or the garage each time. Contents: 20 to 30 electronics cords. "The box was just always a part of our life," says Ms. Loveless, 38. "It wasn't useful to us. We weren't doing anything with it except for moving it." Four years ago, they sorted through the box, paired a handful of cords with the respective devices and got rid of the rest. It was like having a weight lifted, she says and remembers thinking: "This isn't going to happen again. Why would we keep cords we don't need?" Then last summer, going through the garage, Ms. Loveless noticed a bag. "There is another collection of cords," she says. "I was just kind of, like, I thought we handled this. I thought this was in the past."

For as long as consumer electronics have existed, people have had a hard time ditching the old cords to expired and outdated devices. The TV sets, computers, printers, camcorders, VCRs, DVD players, MiniDisc players, BlackBerrys and iPods that the cords belonged to may not even be in their owner's possession. But the cords survive, squirreled away in drawers and bags and boxes. They might be useful someday, people tell themselves, even if some cords' purposes are lost to history. Henry Hall, of Bradenton, Fla., recalls going through his girlfriend's stuff after it came off the moving truck when she moved in with him in 2011. "There's this filing cabinet," says Mr. Hall, 34, a freelance artist who remembers her telling him: "That's just cords that I haven't sorted through."

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  • OK .. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:09AM (#59606168) Journal
    ... this really isn't anything new. People (including me) have hauled around crap because they "might need it" forever.
    • Yep. Several boxes. And power supplies.
      The article doesn't say, though: what the heck are we supposed to do with them?

      • by Z00L00K ( 682162 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:28AM (#59606256) Homepage Journal

        The problem is that 10-20% of the cords are what I use, the other not, but I can't tell which of the 10 to 20% percent that actually are useful in the future.

        And if I junk them - then I definitely would need ALL of them.

        • If you junk them you'll be called a visionary when everything goes wireless in the future. ;o)

        • by dcarmi ( 940742 )

          The problem is that 10-20% of the cords are what I use, the other not, but I can't tell which of the 10 to 20% percent that actually are useful in the future.

          And if I junk them - then I definitely would need ALL of them.

          A perfect example of "hoarder mentality". My Mother-In-Law has the same issue with newspapers, magazines etc. I have even demonstrated how easy it is to find articles on the web. She still hoards. Every 6 months or so we storm the place and clear it out, before she hurts herself.

          • by Jhon ( 241832 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @02:37PM (#59607176) Homepage Journal

            "A perfect example of "hoarder mentality"

            Not really... I keep at least 1 of every cord or power supply because I MIGHT need them.

            I trash the rest. I have a few network cables, a few ps power cables, a few monitor cables (vga, hdmi, displayport, etc), a few serial cables, 1 parallel, various audio/video cables, etc...

            Neighbor knocked on my door before new years trying to get his old karaoke machine (I didn't judge him, so you shouldn't either) hooked to his brand new ultra thin 80 in. TV. He had no HDMI out, no sdif, just standard video+RCA. The TV *DID* support that -- but it was with an increasling hard to find outside of amazon or mail order 3mm -> 3 RCA (R,L,Video) jack. Which I had.

            Earned some extra "good neighbor" points that day.

            I've got a various power bricks. the "brick" to my cable modem died. I clipped the jack off the dead one, found the correct voltage/amp I had, soldered the jack from the cable modem and I was back up in 20 mins. No "wait until the mail comes in a day or two" or actually REPLACING the entire modem with something new ($$$).

            It works. So long as you don't end up with a giant box moving box full of nothing but PC power cables and 20 other boxes full of the similarly stored duplicats of stuff you'll NEVER need that much of...

      • Give them to the recycling company (or scrap metal place) who will bung them in a shredder to chop them into tiny pieces, then pass them onto a granulator that will split the pieces into separatable parts, then onto a separator table that sends the useful copper metal to one bin and the plastic to another.

        https://cablerecycling.com/abo... [cablerecycling.com]

        A slightly interesting video of one of their machines in action. If you're in Canterbury (UK) they will even buy the cable off you.

      • I have plastic trays where I've *organized* cords I will never use again. I may, one day soon, clear out the draw of KVM coords that use old VGA connectors and PS2 Keyboard/Mouse plugs.

    • Re:OK .. (Score:5, Informative)

      by The-Ixian ( 168184 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:18AM (#59606210)

      A couple of years ago, I purged a lot of extra cables. Among these cables were: parallel printer, serial, null modem, USB, VGA, DVI, Floppy and ATA ribbons

      I have actually needed to buy some of those cables again because I threw them out thinking "When the hell am I ever going to need one of these again?"

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      ... this really isn't anything new. People (including me) have hauled around crap because they "might need it" forever.

      The last time I threw away something I "didn't need" (moving from a rental house to our current house) I ended up having to use 2 blocks of wood to support the bedframe of the guest bed because I threw away the feet (the bed was disassembled and stored in the garage of the rental house) and the model wasn't being made any more. I learned my lesson.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I have a drawer full of various cords that are always coming in handy. Whether I need something from it or I'm giving cords to others, I'm glad I have them.

      The people in the story are just stupid.

      • Same, I even keep a bag with one or two of each kind of cord bagged up. They are forever coming in handy and saving me from buying a cable.

        Though, somehow, I was out of phone cables the other day. Don't even ask me how, I can't believe I had to buy one (hobby project w/ a C128).

    • Exactly. If your box is that much of a burden, contact a makerspace and see if they want it.

      Personally, I routinely accumulate "broken" boards and cords. I hardly ever purchase wire anymore. Once in a while I find the perfect component for a project (usually a repurposed power supply).

      Just don't become a hoarder. I do a midsummer purge---it all must fit in the two file boxes. The rest gets sent to a local makerspace or recycled (mostly recycled).

    • Getting better (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Comboman ( 895500 )
      This is getting better than it used to be. All electronic gizmos used to have a unique power supply with a unique cable/connector. Now pretty much everything is micro-USB or USB-C (unless you're an Apple user).
    • by clovis ( 4684 )

      Those cables seem to be useless only because you didn't keep the manuals and CDs that came with the device (or printed out). My problem is, when do I move the manual from the bookshelf to the box of old manuals.

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  • I have a carton of this junk and it's not easy to find an entity willing to recycle it.
    • true, but there will be a scrap metal place that'll take them if they have the equipment that can extract the copper from the plastic. Its not hard, but I don't think many places know it can be done.

      https://cablerecycling.com/ [cablerecycling.com] will buy your cables to recycle, so there's enough money in scrap metal to pay you to take them off your hands!

  • Admit it? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mcmonkey ( 96054 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:15AM (#59606190) Homepage

    I'm proud of it. It's not about keeping cords we don't need. It's keeping cords we might need. For example, just because I don't have a land line now doesn't mean I'm guaranteed to never need a cord with RJ11 connectors ever again. Same for parallel printer cables. Heck, just last week a friend needed a mini-usb cable, something I haven't needed in a decade or more. But I had 1.

    I have gone through my collection and done some culling. For most cable types not in active use I only have 2 specimens. But I am currently in the process of going through my basement and giving away/recycling/throwing away things I don't need, and the box of cords and cables is one of the things that is staying.

    • by chill ( 34294 )

      This is what I do, and I focus on getting rid of the cheaper cords where I have duplicates. A lot of the cords, especially USB, just seem to get thinner and thinner. They end up with broken wires because they're made so cheaply. I actually end up keeping "quality" cables that I know I'll probably never need simply because they're well made.

    • by hattig ( 47930 )

      Mini-USB are useful. PS3 controllers use that. And an annoying number of external HDD cases used to use them, before they went to Micro-USB 3 (the worserestest ever connector) prior to going USB C.

    • I'm proud of it. It's not about keeping cords we don't need. It's keeping cords we might need.

      About a year ago I threw away my right-angled kettle leads on the basis that I'd not needed to use any of them for over 5 years.

      I recently bought a new TV bench and because it has a back panel (which the old one didn't), the power cord forces the box to hang over the front by about an inch.

      The solution is, of course, to have a right-angled kettle lead...

  • I do have a box of cables, but every time I've throw some out I've had to go buy them again within 6 months
  • You know how hard it would be to replace a 25 foot printer cable?

    • You know how hard it would be to replace a 25 foot printer cable?

      https://www.amazon.com/Printer... [amazon.com]
      https://www.amazon.com/IEEE-12... [amazon.com]

      Of course, it would be much easier to not have a printer 25 feet from your desk. If you really needed to, you could also achieve that 25 foot distance with a new printer that understood wifi.

      • by Bigbutt ( 65939 )

        Well then I'd have to add wifi to my desktop.

        [John]

        • don't you already have an internet router that has wifi? desktop wired to router, printer wifi connected to router, desktop can thus print "wirelessly" as both are on the same network.

          Its how I do it. These days the printer manufacturers provide a cloud service, so you can print by emailing your printer a document or image!

      • by Pascoea ( 968200 )
        The problem I have with the "how hard it is to replace it" is that when I've found the need for an odd cable it's usually an immediate need. My old point and shoot camera, for instance, uses a dumb-ass custom USB cable, and that's the only way to charge it. Sure I can amazon/ebay one, but that's no good when I was heading out for a vacation the next day. I was super glad I had the "spare" one in my ball of cables. (I say spare, because the only reason I had it was I lost it, bought a new one, then found
  • by Orgasmatron ( 8103 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:21AM (#59606228)

    Bag each cable, optionally label it. Either write a full database, or at least write one text file per box, and keep it updated.

    Need a cable? Check the database/text files before you buy.

    Barcode labels work pretty well for this. RFID would be even better, but there are some complications that make DIY unusually annoying.

    • Bag each cable, optionally label it. Either write a full database, or at least write one text file per box, and keep it updated.

      Need a cable? Check the database/text files before you buy.

      Barcode labels work pretty well for this. RFID would be even better, but there are some complications that make DIY unusually annoying.

      Oh yeah, all that work to organize shit that I already don't need sure sounds like a lot of fun.
      I have an easier way. Just throw all of it out without putting anymore thought into it.

    • by Bigbutt ( 65939 )

      I do bag the ones that seem basically current and those are in my desk drawer. The box has a giant collection of other cables including some mass of network cables I've created over the years for various reasons.

      But I have a bunch of boxes of other miscellaneous stuff that I need to go through. I did that with my financial records last year dropping it down from two boxes of everything I ever bought to one wide drawer full of bumper stickers and funny papers.

      [John]

    • I did that a few years ago. Now I have a plastic tote full of neatly coiled and bagged VGA, RCA, coax, and analog phone cables I'll never use again, instead of a tangled mess of VGA, RCA, coax, and analog phone cables I'll never use again.
  • I have several boxes of power cords, extensions, power bars, wall warts, Ethernet cables, serial cables, VGA cables, S-video cables, RCA cables, 75 ohm coax, printer cables, and various bits of headphone cable and lengths of power wires.

    I haven't used any of them in decades, but I can feel that I might need one any time soon now.

  • For some reason, I need to replace MicroUSB charging cables about every 6 months, they just stop working. When they fail, I toss them.

    I have a variety of S-video cables and switches which still work fine when I plug old consoles into my TV.

    Optical cables, HDMI cables, RCA cables, Power Cables, Ethernet Cables, Serial Cables, Parallel cables (which I should dump)

    • For some reason, I need to replace MicroUSB charging cables about every 6 months, they just stop working.

      The reason is that those little prong things are spring loaded, but not for long.
      USB type C solved this years ago.

      • I have to replace USB C cables every few months because every brand I buy gets frayed where the cord goes into the end piece. This is especially bad in my car where the cable gets twisted up regularly.

        Only once have I had a micro USB cable go bad, and it was because the end got bent.

        USB C didn't solve shit.

  • so there
  • I go through mine and keep one extra of what I may need. Anything else I drop off at the Salvation Army they can sell them

  • I reuse them for new projects.
  • I thinned out my box of spare cables by about 90% when we packed up for moving last year. But 20-30 cables? That's nothing. I'm sure I have at least twice that left, meaning I started with a few hundred. Got rid of all telephone/fax cables, of all types. CAT-5 network cables. Parallel printer cables. Old-style keyboard/mouse cables. Cable TV coax. The last VGA cables. I may have kept one DVI cable "just in case".

    What's left? Different types of video cables (do we really need HDMI, DisplayPort, and all the v

  • frankly the sooner USB C / thunderbolt cables remove all the other junk the better for the planet

    under EU rules the manufacturer has to recycle them... all the countries should have the same i.e. the price that you buy things at includes the cost to recycle it

  • by LatencyKills ( 1213908 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:28AM (#59606266)
    And the process of going through his house and for the most part getting rid of his belongings has suddenly made my wife and I decluttering fiends. Unused cables, novels I read 20 years ago that I swore I would read again and never did and likely never will, board games we haven't played in a decade. We have plans to downsize when we retire so this process was going to happen - the experience of doing it for my father after his death was just a catalyst to start the process sooner.
  • by gatkinso ( 15975 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:32AM (#59606278)

    If you have a cable that you know works, guard it with your life.

  • I have a box mostly full of cords I will never use, plus a few I will be thankful I kept. Given that I don't necessarily know in advance which is which, and given that it really doesn't take very much space, this seems an eminently rational thing to do.

  • by leonbev ( 111395 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:35AM (#59606292) Journal

    Profits must be down at Belkin, and they need people to throw out their old cables to prevent friends and family from poaching their "legacy" cable market. How else are they going to keep those coax cable and mini USB cable assembly lines in China running?

  • Nothing is more likely to create a sudden need for some old scsi cable than throwing away your last one.
  • I have a box of wall warts, and a box of USB cables and a box of audio cables and a box of misc cables (mostly video related cables or power cables).

    I generally try to adhere to the "if I didn't use it in six months, I'm never going to use it" rule, but that doesn't apply to these boxes and I'm greatful for it. I have a lot of USB audio/midi gear, I spend a lot of time tinkering with microcontrollers and other electronics projects, sometimes new computer hardware comes in that forces me to re-arrange my des

  • A box? I have several drawers full of cords that I never use. Really handy for the once every two or three years occurrence of someone asking me "Hey, do you have X cord?" and I can go pull it right out. I could probably get rid of most of them, but keeping them isn't really causing me any problems...
  • If you finally throw the dang things away and find you need one, you can often find an old cord or adapter at places like the Goodwill, Salvation Army or Value Village where tey sell all them things that some people donate rather than throw in the garbage or recycling. I've picked up replacement power adapters for routers and other cheap replacements in such places.

    Take away, don't throw the old cable out, donate it to a thrift market type operation.

  • by twocows ( 1216842 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:47AM (#59606362)
    This isn't limited to just cords. There's lots of stuff I might end up using in the future that's worth keeping around because the space it occupies is less valuable than the potential that I might be able to forego buying new equipment. If I ever start running low on storage space, maybe I can start playing miser with my IRL inventory, but at the moment having several boxes out in the garage full of stuff that might be useful is not causing problems.
  • by bobbied ( 2522392 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @10:51AM (#59606382)

    I have a pile of cables, two boxes full of them. I manage the sprawl by sorting through them and asking myself a few questions:

    1. Is this cable/device still in general use today?

    2. How many of these do I have?

    3. How many of these could I possibly need?

    4. Are they readily available or unique?

    I generally keep one example of most things. I do toss unique stuff that is for devices that are no longer made or I'm SURE I'm never going to use. For example:

    SCSI cables - Toss - I don't own any SCSI drives anymore so that stuff got trashed.

    USB-Mini - Keep a few - This cable isn't generally used on new stuff, but a lot of existing stuff that I have still uses it.

    Weird Wall Wart - Toss - It was for charging the Fitbit that we don't have anymore and is not sold.

    SATA Drive Cables - Keep - those things are popular and easily broken.

    12 V Wall Wart - Keep a few - EVERYTHING uses 12v these days...

    So I go through the two boxes on a regular basis to sort though the available cables, toss the obsolete stuff and pare down the rest to what fits in the space.

  • Every machine I ever built going back to 1998. I don't use them, but I can't bring myself to throwing them away. The other day I pulled out my gaming rig from 98 with a 3dfx voodoo 3, just for nostalgia. I also have a drawer of old cords I think that I might not need. But you know what? The other day I did need them. I had a computer in the bedroom that I was using to play mp3s. It died, and so I went in said drawer and found an old ipod nano. Then I had to do some digging, and found the cord for
  • Some relative rocks up with some desktop or laptop that should be in a museum and says "I need this to do something because Tax Return/last chance of locating old file/I need to drive some port on some other thing".

    That's why we keep these things - for unpaid tech support work.

  • (small voice) centronics might come back

  • Why the need for the accusative tone in the title? I have boxes of lots of things I may never use again. What's yer beef?
  • I just made a post and video [minds.com]about a box of junk from my parents house with one of the most interesting/mystifying cables I've come across, especially why they chose to do the FireWire portion they way they did.

    • More on topic:

      I now refuse to buy equipment that uses non-standard cables. That's part of why Apple phones are no longer on the menu (I did have a 3GS back in the day). Industrial/professional equipment where you build your own, based on available connectors I might make an exception for, but not a personal gizmo/gadget. I'm even getting there when it comes to power, not just data.

      I used to demand one of several USB or FireWire connectors, but of course I no longer consider FireWire unless it's a cool us

    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Found some Ethernet AUI cables. And transceivers (both 10BaseT and 10Base2).

  • Add a corollary to that theorem. You won't be able to find the cable you need even if you own it and know you own it .

    I have a whole lot of them. Component video with five leads on either end, AV, 1/8" to red+white, 3/8" to 1/8" adapters .... tons and tons of them.

    The new TV set does not use any of them. There is an optical cable in that mess of cables I have in that cardboard box. If I can find that I can feed my new TV audio out to that ancient receiver with amazing sound and speakers all wired up wit

  • Honestly, most cords are fairly compatible.

    old 3 prong computer power cords still work for new computers
    Ethernet cables still work
    microphone and speaker cords still work
    USB and firewire still work.

    Yeah, stuff from 20 years ago does not work, but things from the past ten years are still useful.

  • by reanjr ( 588767 )

    Boxes of cords aren't a problem for me.

    Wicker basket full of cords is a different problem...

  • fuck off! you sound like my wife except I love my wife and she understand my box of cords, and once I found an hdmi cord I needed in there, so let me repeat, fuck off! you're mean.
  • 2 or 3 extra PC power cords, some HDMI cables, some rather more esoteric cables, OK the old PS2 component cable, probably not, but if I get an old PS2, I can get a component video to HDMI converter on Amazon! And, oh hey, it's my ol' stranglin' people who point out that my cords are useless cord! Didn't even remember I had that! I'll definitely be using THAT again! :-P
  • That's the other thing where I can say "I do". Fortunately Apple fixed that too, with the newer thunderbolt cables that can go directly to recicyle bin [ioshacker.com].

    Off-topic to msmash. Why the fuck would you link a stupid story to a paywalled article?
  • Remotes to devices that no longer exist.
    Exercise equipment that no one has ever used more than once.
    Buttons to suits I no longer own.
    Specialized wrenches to tools that I don't have anymore.

    I have a dresser with drawers for nothing but this stuff, but I actually make a lot of use of it. I'm constantly hacking something together. For instance, an old parallel cable was just what I needed for my EMC-2 router build.

  • I have a box of cables and a box of power supplies that I keep around. My hobby is collecting and playing around with old computers, so when I get a new piece of equipment or without the proper cables or power supply I can just dig through my boxes and usually find what I need. It's not like they take up a ton of space or anything. Sometimes you can't even buy the needed part anymore, so having a box of scavenged cables is extremely handy.
  • I keep old cables around to set up retro computers for old games. Lots of old games will only run on period appropriate hardware & software, especially early 3d games. Glide emulators are great but they've got their limits.
  • Amateurs... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by The Cynical Critic ( 1294574 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @12:52PM (#59606774)
    A box of cables? Are the people who write these articles not even out of college or just neat freaks?

    Because I'm 30 years old and I've already got about multiple cupboards full of cables (ethernet, USB, FireWire, HDMI, DVI, DisplayPort, etc.), working but not-in-use gadgets (tablet, an iPod, a bunch of smartphones, etc.), unused optical discs with internal and external drives, electronics components and leftover bits from electronics projects.

    At the moment I've got no idea what I'll ever use an external drive box for IDE drives, a Dreamcast GDROM drive or a old SATA drives for. But my still very much in-control hoarding has allowed me to help out friends at no cost and fix a bunch of problems without needing to go out and buy something. All of it is just stuff I've decided not to throw out after it's original usefulness has run out so it neither costs me anything (even the cupboards are in a byro I got for free) and it reduces my eWaste output.
  • by LostOne ( 51301 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @01:12PM (#59606848) Homepage

    I'm convinced that most of the useless stuff I have is kept simply because it's been there for a while. This is especially the case when it's not really in the way I only have to interact with it infrequently. Largely an "out of sight, out of mind" thing. And then when I notice something that I probalby don't need, it gets filed under "meh. I'll deal with it later." Of course, you all know when "later" is. Eventually, it gets to the point of "it's just the stuff I have" and no further thought.

    Often, I think the "I might need this some day" is a rationalization for laziness that eventually becomes a way of life.

  • by AntEater ( 16627 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @01:19PM (#59606874) Homepage

    You never know when you'll need a VGA adapter cable for an old Sun 21" CRT monitor. External, differential SCSI3 cable? Good luck finding one of those when you need it. 9-pin to 25-pin serial? S-video? Every variation of USB. BNC/Co-ax monitor cables! I've got them all! Never get rid of those cables.

  • Charity store (Score:5, Informative)

    by ljw1004 ( 764174 ) on Friday January 10, 2020 @01:22PM (#59606884)

    I was looking for a cable. Didn't find it in my cable box. Went to the local Goodwill charity store where they had a cable drawer like mine, only it was HUGE and sorted and very cheap.

    When Goodwill has a better cable junk drawer than me, I knew it was time to donate mine.

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