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Times Newer Roman is a Font Designed To Make Your Essays Look Longer (theverge.com) 154

Chaim Gartenberg, writing for The Verge: Times Newer Roman, a font from internet marketing firm MSCHF (which you may remember from the Tabagotchi Chrome extension). Times Newer Roman looks a lot like the go-to academic font, but each character is subtly altered to be 5 to 10 percent wider, making your essays look longer without having to actually make them longer. According to Times Newer Roman's website, a 15-page, single-spaced document in 12 point type only requires 5,833 words, compared to 6,680 for the standard Times New Roman. (That's 847 words you don't need to write, which is more than twice the length of this post!)
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Times Newer Roman is a Font Designed To Make Your Essays Look Longer

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  • "Academic" font? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    The academic fonts are Computer Modern.
    Times New Roman is for people who use Microsoft software, not academics.

    • I don't think THOSE kind of academics are the ones worried about padding out their essay on the ways in which various American artists view race and class as performed or performable identities.

    • Depends which corner of academia you are in. Some fields almost everyone used LaTeX, some fields almost everyone uses Word (with third party extensions), some fields there is a mixture.

      • by PolygamousRanchKid ( 1290638 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:38PM (#57344182)

        Some fields almost everyone used LaTeX, some fields almost everyone uses Word (with third party extensions), some fields there is a mixture.

        In the fields I know, most academics use grad students to write their papers.

      • Re:"Academic" font? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by PopeRatzo ( 965947 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @05:57PM (#57344696) Journal

        trump is anything but lazy...

        I wrote my PhD thesis in Nota Bene, which was very good word processor for DOS. I later switched to LaTeX, because university publishers liked all that postscript shit, and I felt kind of cool being the only one in the English Department who used LaTeX. Plus, I could run it on any of the weak-ass computers the department would give me before I got to be tenure-track. It made it a little complicated to collaborate with my colleagues, but by the time that was an issue, I had other options. I did have several students who submitted graduate-level work in LaTeX though, and I insisted on it for masters or PhD theses.

        • by hawk ( 1151 )

          It generally takes a week of work to get a dissertation into format when the dissertation nazis in the graduate office are done with it.

          I used LyX to write LaTeX, and my time was well under 15 minutes--**including** the call over something that they got backwards, and "correcting" before the call and fixing after the call. I had to manually insert a pagebreak somewhere due to the rules on figures; that was really about it.

          It helped that there was an ISU thesis package for LaTeX . . .

          And near the deadline,

    • Comic Sans (Score:5, Funny)

      by Roger W Moore ( 538166 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @05:46PM (#57344636) Journal

      The academic fonts are Computer Modern.

      Rubbish. In my field we use Comic Sans [theverge.com] for our most important discoveries...but that is because we are more interested in the information than the font it is written in.

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    • by Anonymous Coward

      High-school objective: make short essay look long.
      Undergrad objective: write essay.
      Postgrad objective: squeeze 12-page paper into 8-page conference page limit.

      • by Askmum ( 1038780 )

        High-school objective: make short essay look long.

        Exactly. That someone, idk 40 years after the invention of WYSIWYG editors and proportional fonts, is writing an article about this must mean that there really is nothing to report. Even I was looking at which font was the best to make my essays longer, and I've played with CP/M
        But hey, it's The Verge. The people that tell you to put an extra layer of cooling paste on your CPU when your cooler already has the stuff preapplied, or the people that tell you to put your PSU in the correct way or otherwise it w

  • But it looks bigger (Score:4, Informative)

    by chispito ( 1870390 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:13PM (#57344022)
    I followed TFA and the font looks like the author simply increased the size by half a point. If you are trying to make your paper seem longer, it will probably sound like you are trying ot make your paper seem longer.

    This will not help, especially if the person grading is paying attention. So what if they accuse you of changing the margins or spacing instead of identifying the actual isssue? You were most likely given a list of acceptable fonts, and Times I'm Lazy was not on that list.
    • by bluefoxlucid ( 723572 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:26PM (#57344120) Homepage Journal

      Making your paper longer is stupid anyway. The discovery of the Double Helix was published in a two-page article. There are journals now with maximum length limits and restrictions on how many figures and tables you can include, so either stfu and say something useful or just stfu.

      Adam Smith wrote a five-paragraph essay in fifty pages.

      • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @05:37PM (#57344574)

        I have a dual degree in Business and Engineering. I was always fascinated by the concept that Business Management assignments had a minimum word count, and engineering assignments had a maximum.

        It kind of fundamentally explains the differences between:
        Management: Bullshit until the bull can shit no more.
        STEM: If you can't explain it in a 1 liner then you haven't found the best solution.

        • by Cederic ( 9623 )

          My degree is from a business school, but it's a BSc and not a BA.

          Perhaps that's why we have word maximums, and never minimums. Who the fuck needs a minimum at even undergrad level?

          • Who the fuck needs a minimum at even undergrad level?

            Certified Bullshit Artists. I believe they use the letters MBA.

      • by Anubis IV ( 1279820 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @05:51PM (#57344672)

        Use what's given to you well. Padding papers wastes everyone's time and is stupid. Not being able to intelligently fill space that's been given to you is stupid too.

        When I was serving as a teaching assistant in grad school, each semester a student would inevitably ask how many pages their essay would need to fill of the five (double-spaced) pages we had asked them to provide. I'd always tell them that their perspective was backwards: the problem they should be having was in figuring out what they needed to cut to squeeze their arguments down to five pages. We had equipped them with a number of logical tools and the topics we were giving them were rich with nuance and avenues to explore. Even a few moments of cursory thought should have left them overflowing with ideas that would need to be cut before their thoughts could fit in five pages. If they hadn't even given the topic enough thought to fill five pages, it was doubtful they had given it enough thought to warrant a decent grade.

        Then I'd sigh loudly and say, "...but if you still need some encouragement, I'll deduct additional points if you drop under four pages", simply because that was a requirement the professors had put on us.

        Students who pad their paper's length—either by using a font to make their paper appear longer or by using inane speech that adds nothing of value—are missing the point and are cheating themselves out of hundreds of words that their peers will be putting to good use.

        • Not being able to intelligently fill space that's been given to you is stupid too.

          Maybe you should stick to one concise topic and discuss it well instead of describing several topics at length.

          I have a paper on structural wage--on the impacts of minimum wage on the labor force size and distribution of income, notably considering minimum and median wage each as a percentage of the per-capita gross national income and minimum wage in terms of percentage of median wage.

          In this paper, I touch briefly on Malthus to describe employment as the gateway to abundance, thus suggesting that wage

          • Maybe you should stick to one concise topic and discuss it well instead of describing several topics at length.

            [...]

            Get your point across clearly, completely, and concisely. Don't ramble about other shit to fill space.

            Agreed! As I started my comment by saying, padding papers is a waste of everyone’s time. My point, however, was that you should have given the topic sufficient thought to have a need to edit yourself for concision. If you haven’t even given it that much thought, it’s likely that you aren’t saying something worthwhile in the first place, regardless of whether you write three paragraphs or three pages in the end.

            • Paul Samuelson's landmark paper on the efficient provision of public goods was only three pages in the 1954 Review of Economics and Statistics. If someone tells you to fill five and you have a landmark argument in three, "Not being able to intelligently fill the space given to you" is just being too smart to ramble for five pages about a three-page topic. You lose points, but you gain a Nobel prize.

              You can't base on the premise that maybe you end up with three paragraphs, but you haven't thought enough

              • I’m clearly failing to communicate here, since I don’t disagree with anything you’re arguing, yet it’s clear that you think you’re arguing against what I’m saying. My saying that people should be able to intelligently fill the space they’re given doesn’t mean that I’m suggesting they should pontificate at length when fewer words would serve them better.

                I’m not advocating the padding of papers, “intelligently” or otherwise. I’m tal

    • Yeah there is a very very obvious change in the appearance of the font. The better approach is to just adjust your kerning by 5%. The characters are precisely identical and it's still longer.

  • Helvetica was always my fluff-it-up font of choice in high school.

    • by GuB-42 ( 2483988 )

      Mine is Verdana.

      Other tricks:
      - wide margins
      - increase line spacing

      Then there are style tricks:
      - short paragraphs
      - lists are your friend

      Also put as much fluff as you can: titles, headers, footers, etc...

      Finally, avoid making your fonts bigger, it doesn't take as much space as it seems and it is too obvious.

      • Oh, I loved margin tweaking when I was in school.

        It works both ways, too. Need to page eight pages take up ten? 1.125" or 1.25" on both sides. Need to make a page and a half take up one page? 0.875" or 0.75" on both sides. Most printers don't center themselves well enough that a quarter inch on either side will be noticeable and for the ones that do, just widen the page guide slightly before loading.

        I also found that using +/- 0.5pt fonts when a specific font size was mandated worked wonders on larger docum

        • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          I had teachers and professors who would swear up and down that they would notice and/or measure that and that you'd get marked down for doing it. Never happened once.

          That's because with subtle enough tweaks, it's impossible to measure without having measurement error. The best margin to tweak is actually the right hand margin as long as you leave the Justification set to left (never fully justified). Left margin if you're in a RTL place, and again, never fully justified. This makes the right margin almost i

          • That's a good point about the right margin. If you're going to tweak the left margin, also make sure to tweak the top and bottom margins. It doesn't buy you much in terms of page count, but having different-sized margins is eye catching.

            And even if you have good paper, you have to have the most accurate of measuring devices to catch the 1/144 inch (~0.2 mm) discrepancy by bumping the font by half a point. If you're a teacher grading 30 papers, you're not going to break out the high-accuracy calipers. But it

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      That may be why Bootstrap uses Helvetica also. Bootstrap is the king of screen-real-estate wasters (at least per defaults). It's probably done to make things easier for finger-oriented devices, but if the application will be run on desktops 90% of the time, which is the case at many orgs, then the waste adds up per scrolling etc.

  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:36PM (#57344166)

    Trojan Newer Roman condoms look a lot like regular condoms, but each is subtly altered to make your penis look 5 to 10 percent bigger, without having to actually make it bigger. "Trojan: Rome wasn't built in a day, but it will feel that way."

    • "Trojan: Rome wasn't built in a day, but it will feel that way."

      And the serif enhances the pleasure. As George Carlin said, "It's not how long you make it, but how you make it long!"

    • That doesn't make sense. Haven't you seen all those ancient Roman statues? All of the penises are tiny.
  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:46PM (#57344218)

    What kind of sick person would try to trick people into thinking people are reading more than actually are?!

    • Actually, fixed-pitch fonts like Courier may make a comeback in schools to make it easier for graders to verify sizing.

      Either that, the submissions may be required to be in an electronic form whereby words and/or characters are machine-countable so that human graders don't have to spend time on such. The number of "pages" then is meaningless.

    • All US college textbooks weight a ton and cost a fortune. The text is mostly water, meant to be skimmed diagonally as opposed to read. I come from Soviet Russia where textbooks cost pennies (also free education) and there was no incentive to bloat them. Russian textbooks were actually readable.
  • I've known (and exploited) this fact for years. Now Times New Roman will unavoidably get banned at schools. ;-)
  • Back in my day, all we had was Courier New, and we didn't complain about it!
  • Pick a better name; "Newer" is a Chinese brand of cheap camera accessories.

    • by Quirkz ( 1206400 )

      It's also a play on words, going from New to Newer. I don't think most people would confuse font branding with camera branding.

  • by williamyf ( 227051 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @05:17PM (#57344448)

    ... as we say in spanish speaking countries.

    All of us played with margins, spacing, and fonts (to the extent possible) to make an essay look bigger, from the times of Typewriter, even going so far as to chose the typewriter to use among the three in my house to suit my needs, the most uncofortable one (but with bigger type) for essays with a set minimum # of pages, or the most confortable one for longer essays, or when there was no preset limit.

    That's why, with the advent of computers, smart teachers request the work as a PDF and count words, not pages. Yes, a word count is also open to abuse, but less than # of pages alone.

    Myself, I put a minimum AND maximum limit, both on pages AND on words.

  • by VeryFluffyBunny ( 5037285 ) on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @06:29PM (#57344872)
    ...of electronic paper. Imagine all those extra virtual pages being needlessly created and clogging up desktop trash cans.
  • I wrote my diploma thesis on an IBM luggable with an orange plasma display on Ami Pro on Windows for Workgroups. We adjusted the font with a font editor to meet the minimal pagesize. Nice to see the old tricks still in place. :-)

  • Just in time for papers to never be printed, or evaluated by page length! This font will do you no good when you're entering text into a box in an LMS with a built-in word count feature.

    Also, if you can write 5,833 words on something, you can probably write 847 more. It's not like this will turn a 2-page paper into a 3-page paper.

  • In my school years, all essays had to be written by hand, and sitting in your desk. How else could you prove it was not done by someone else?
  • In the European education system I have experience with (France, UK, Germany), the length of essays was counted in words, not in pages. Stringers can be paid (at least in France) by the number of pages, but I assume that the font is imposed.

  • Titling in videos can be annoying and having varied width options for fonts like this can help a lot with video titling. I like this!
  • by hyades1 ( 1149581 ) <hyades1@hotmail.com> on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @08:45PM (#57345390)

    It looks like I'll have to get that tattoo on my dick redone.

  • letter-spacing: .2rem;
  • Just about every piece of English language text coming out of Shenzhen is Times New Roman, which is an awful font to read. If we sneak in Times Newer Roman instead, maybe I'll finally be able to read those little instruction books that come with my stinky Chinese e-gadgets.

    As for essay-writing... Bookman or similar fonts are much easier to read, and give the documents a professional look that doesn't scream "I barely know how to use Word".

  • Can I get a newer font that does the opposite? I typically need to get MORE text on a single page. :)
  • The commentators here can be seen as the wisdom of all fonts;

  • and Times New Roman is one of the smallest fonts I've seen, making it suitable for reasonable-quality printed output only. A PDF with text in Times New Roman is painful to read until you really crank up the zoom factor.
    Something like Verdana takes up twice the space.

    Times New Roman was designed in 1929 for the (London) Times newspaper, with the goal of fitting as much text as possible on a page. Font design has moved on since then, fonts are available that are more readable than Times New Roman while taking

  • Honestly, way to waste more paper!

  • ...the assignment is actually printed and submitted in physical form. If they were to submit electronically and the file was opened on a device that didn't have the new font installed then it will default to a different font, possibly showing the document's true size.

  • Once i got out of highschool all of my classes had a minimum word limit, not page limit.

  • There are so many reasons this will not work in real life, that it has to be a joke.

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