President Obama Unveils $19 Billion Plan To Overhaul U.S. Cybersecurity 185
erier2003 writes: President Obama on Tuesday unveiled an expansive plan to bolster government and private-sector cybersecurity by establishing a federal coordinator for cyber efforts, proposing a commission to study future work, and asking Congress for funds to overhaul dangerously obsolete computer systems. His newly signed executive orders contain initiatives to better prepare college students for cybersecurity careers, streamline federal computer networks, and certify Internet-connected devices as secure. The Cybersecurity National Action Plan also establishes a Federal Privacy Council (to review how the government stores Americans' personal information), creates the post of Chief Information Security Officer, and establishes a Commission on Enhancing National Cybersecurity.
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This sounds like a classic government program designed to funnel public money into the hands of a few private contractors or corporations. Remind me why the Republicans are opposed to this again.
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classic government program designed to funnel public money into the hands of a few private contractors or corporations
Fix the the problem and the games over...
A young boy enters a barber shop and the barber whispers to his customer "This is the dumbest kid in town.... watch while I prove it to you." The barber puts a dollar bill in one hand and two quarters in the other, then calls the boy over and asks "Which do you want, son?" The boy takes the quarters and leaves. "What did I tell you?" said the barber. "That kid never learns!"
Later, when the customer leaves, he sees the same young boy coming out of the ice crea
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You do realize, astroturf sockpuppet fag, that this is Slashdot, where things like NSLs are routinely discussed...? You're in the wrong fucking place to dismiss those as fantasy.
Gridlock (Score:1, Insightful)
Republicans reject it before it even comes out and refuse to read it.
Because "Obama"
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Because "$19 Billion"
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Republicans will say they will object to an bill from Obama, but they almost always fall in line and pass it. The Syrian ban was bi-partisan. This is why people are calling the republicans rinos, they pass the bills the right wing public doesn't want. So yeah, they say they wont, but they will fall in line and do it anyways.
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Republicans reject it before it even comes out and refuse to read it.
Because "Obama"
Which is why when Sanders is elected president in November, I can look forward to more entertaining gridlock, proposals that aren't "Republican-lite". Because if gridlock from a Democratic president is all we'll get, we might as well get propose some nice socialist ideas and get some nice leftward Overton window movement.
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Sander's isn't shy about saying that his movement doesn't end with him being elected. We'd pretty much need a full flush of congress.
I'm pretty sure most can agree with that regardless of their opinion of Sanders.
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Sander's isn't shy about saying that his movement doesn't end with him being elected. We'd pretty much need a full flush of congress.
I'm pretty sure most can agree with that regardless of their opinion of Sanders.
I'm not sure we'd need to replace all of congress, just the ones that are hopelessly corrupted by the establishment or outside money. It would be a hard slog. There's no viable Ron Paul candidate on the Republican side; they would all likely gladly sing the praises of the TPP, so it's pretty much the only option if you're against the corporatocracy.
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A Sanders nomination would be a disaster. No more gridlock as the Republicans have at least 2 years to party and spend like Democrats.
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From 2003 (the full implementation of the Bush tax cuts) to 2007 (when Dems took over congress) federal revenue increased every single year. The deficits also decreased every year after 2004.
Revenues didn't start decreasing until 2008 (mid bubble burst) but deficits skyrocketed to previously unheard of trillion dollar levels. Revenues have only recently gotten back to 2007 levels and beyond but deficits are still historically high, though slightly better.
The US, in general, doesn't have a revenue problem,
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Ronnie made a big mistake agreeing to Grahm-Rudman.
At this point any 'raise taxes now, cut spending later' plan should be a non-starter. At least until we see the Grahm-Rudman spending cuts we are already owed.
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Fuck them and their increase revenue. They have more than enough already.
My Job. $19 billion/year for another healthcare.go (Score:2)
This will probably be good for me and for people I know, since I'm in the information security field.
That said, I hope the republicans take a look at what exactly he wants to spend yet another $19 billion on each year (assuming none of it goes over budget). Another healthcare.gov type government IT project isn't what we need, obviously. Even liberals could probably come up with better uses for those billions of dollars than cybercare.gov. ;)
We'll see what all he wants to do. Hiring a CSO for the federal g
Good and evil (Score:5, Insightful)
Republicans reject it before it even comes out and refuse to read it.
Because "Obama"
Oh, be fair now...
Remember that Obamacare website? How high quality was that?
How about Obamacare itself? Did cementing health insurance companies into federal law fix any problems?
How about closing Gitmo? How did that work out?
Hell, how about his stance on telecom immunity [politifact.com]? How's that working out for us?
Or making up new immigration law by executive order [usnews.com]?
Or ordering the assassination of a US citizen [worldcantwait.net]? (With no trial, and by authority of a secret law.)
Really. If you want to blame gridlock on the merits of the situation, then do so.
Otherwise, to the casual observer it would appear that "because Obama" is a perfectly valid reason to oppose something.
Because, you know, "good and evil".
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How about closing Gitmo? How did that work out?
Otherwise, to the casual observer it would appear that "because Obama" is a perfectly valid reason to oppose something.
But Gitmo is still open because Republicans opposed it, and it was literally the first thing he did as president.
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Not that I agree with universal healthcare. I seem to be one of the few who understands healthcare is a limited resource and as such must be divvied up some way. As I work for a living, I'd rather it be by the almighty dollar than some politico in Washington.
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Have you noticed that, over the years, many Democratic and Republican candidates have said things like, "I will bridge the aisle to get things done." Guess what? It never works. People often believe that their own view on a topic is the only correct one and rarely put a significant amount of effort into understanding opposing views. Instead they watch news sources and read blogs that reinforce their own views. The belief
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"Only democrats spend tons of money" says area man with no grip on reality.
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"Only democrats spend tons of money" says area man with no grip on reality.
No, his point was that on things like this, Democrats only spend money (as opposed to actually getting things done right). The money gets spent, but the supposed purpose for which money is being taxed or borrowed and then spread around on the chartering and running of panels, focus groups, advisory boards, and programs as being mentioned in the OP ... that amounts to nothing constructive. But it does add new bureaucrats and unfireable new federal employees to the picture, and grows the size and pointless i
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Nope, works like this. When you stop spending money on maintenance to taking stupid short right wing cuts you end up poisoning 90,000 citizens with lead. Across the board the US has failed to spend money on maintenance of infrastructure as a result of a crazy idiotic shift to the right (factually brought about by lead poisoning, seriously) and now has to spend trillions of dollars to catch up on infrastructure maintenance or face infrastructure collapse across the board.
So yeah, they have to build up tec
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This shows that a party repeating a BS meme works on some people.
Reagan and W are the biggest "recent" spenders; and did it during non-recessions such that "stimulus" cannot be a justification. Both started during a recession, but failed to shut off the spigot after the economy improved.
W spent on war, DHS, Medicare Part D, and his tax cuts and refunds worsened the debt problem.
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Federal Budgets start in the house.
Who ran the house during the periods you mention?
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If they take the money from the President of Mexico's boss (the drug cartels) there will be hell to pay.
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And never mind... (Score:2)
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Obama can't even get Democrats to take his budget proposals seriously. When Reid did bother with a budget he ignored almost anything proposed fro the White House and went his own way. It was the Republicans that would force Reid to table Obama's budgets for a vote and when they were brought up they generally couldn't get enough support for the yeas to play a game of Solitaire.
2011: 97-0
2012: 99-0
and his most successful,
2016: 98-1
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Might help if you stay current with the news.
The Republican-controlled House and Senate budget committees jointly broke with tradition in announcing that they would not even listen to the details of the Obama administration plan. The director of the Office of Management and Budget, Shaun Donovan, was not invited to testify about the administration's plan, according to a joint House and Senate press release.
http://fortune.com/2016/02/09/congress-snubs-obama-budget/ [fortune.com]
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That really shows that this is about politics and not governing. The GOP has decided to stop governing and take their ball home if they dont get exactly what they want.
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Have they ever done something like this? This is different from having a ideology issue. they can listen to the budget and then reject it.
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When the Dems were in control of the Senate they rarely even bothered to pass a budget (one of their primary functions), let alone listen to the executive proposals. When Reid did decide to actually propose a budget (apparently he scheduled "Plan next years budget" for Feb 29th one year so a reminder only popped up every 4) it wasn't based off of Obama's proposals because Obama's budget proposals (when submitted) we so ridiculous they couldn't even garner Democrat support.
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Thats because its an election year, and the republicans are in trouble for passing every budget bill that goes against the rights core agenda. They are being called rino's by their own party, and the in-fighting after the budget is passed, including full funding for planned parenthood, etc. Almost all the social media is negative about their elected officials, and why Trump is taking off. They are tired of "same as usual" do nothing politics.
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Not that I like dysfunctional government, or the Republicans in control, but it's not like he listens to them either when he implements major laws via executive order.
On that note, let's not forget that each expansion of government power, no matter how tiny, accumulates and is passed on to future administrations. Donald Trump is already proclaiming those powers to be his if elected [thehill.com]. Trump with that much power scares me a hell of a lot more than Obama.
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Obama should scare you more because his abuse of EO's and Presidential Memorandum actually were put into action. Trump is so egotistical and crazy that it could actually be a good thing if, heaven help the world, he ever was elected because the legislative branch would finally step in and put and end to blatantly unconstitutional use of EO's and PM's. The one thing that could possibly unite both Reps and Dems would be passing legislation to limit the President Trumps (shiver) executive overreach.
The US mi
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LOL ... are you expecting a rational reconciliation between the fact that you can't undermine security and enhance security at the same time?
For you and I, that would be cognitive dissonance. For people who think they can pass laws around technical problems, the wishful thinking just keeps going.
Not understanding the technology makes it far easier to pass terrible laws about the technology and then fail to understand why those laws don't work.
But, part of the problem is they fall short on some basic securi
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Oh fuck, he's appointing a COORDINATOR!! (Score:5, Funny)
Looks like your days are numbered, black hats!!
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What he's saying is... (Score:5, Funny)
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Does the Heritage Foundation have a cybersecurity proposal that they've disavowed?
Part of the budget (Score:2)
This is a tiny portion of an overall 4.1 Trillion dollar budget submitted to Congress -- a Congress, mind you that would never pass this budget because:
A) Obama is a democrat
B) Obama is black
C) The budget has more spending than previous budgets.
And frankly, even if the Congress was working with the president instead of against him, they are a bunch of arrogant incompetent do-nothings -- I personally thing our political gridlock has more to do with the likes of Louie Gohmert than with actual malice -- they a
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C) The budget has more spending than previous budgets.
Never mind that the Republicans led the way in busting the budget caps in last year's budget deal.
http://www.responseaction.com/Article/mcconnell-boehner-seek-bust-spending-caps [responseaction.com]
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Yes, but you'll never *that* reported on Fox News -- as far as they are concerned, it's the Liberal that Spend, Spend, Spend.
Never mind the Republicans are the ones pushed through that expensive boondoggle called the F-35 -- a multi-role aircraft that doesn't perform any of it's intended roles.
Yay! (Score:2)
Government sucks at everything (Score:2)
Government: We suck at everything, but we'll excel at infosec!
The endless contractor cycle has to stop (Score:5, Interesting)
Most of the "cybersecurity holes" can be tracked down to some contractor slapping in an insecure installation of -whatever- to do the bare minimum needed to keep the contract. This is what needs to be fixed -- contracts need to be monitored closely and terminated in cases of poor performance. Security is a human error thing mostly:
- Not removing default passwords and accounts
- Leaving ports open and services running that aren't necessary
- Not keeping up with product versions and patch cycles
- Leaving unencrypted disks full of data on trains or in cars that get broken into
The problem is that even big companies can't manage to get this right, let alone government agencies. Big companies fall prey to the same mentality of just hiring contractors. Even the NSA did this -- if there was ever an organization that needed to do their own in-house IT, that's definitely #1 on the list. Employees will care about security when employers start demanding it.
The solution, which is nearly impossible to implement, is to make everyone involved step their game up. Hire real, full time employees who are committed to the agencies' or companies' missions at a level slightly above "I can keep my job." Make sure everyone is trained and double-check work.
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The solution, which is nearly impossible to implement, is to make everyone involved step their game up. Hire real, full time employees who are committed to the agencies' or companies' missions at a level slightly above "I can keep my job." Make sure everyone is trained and double-check work.
That's the kind of security work I'm doing for government IT.
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I recently witnessed a branch of a government agency completely dismantle it's technical security group. All the employees who specialized in technical security were moved into their corresponding technical groups. The theory that was bandied about was that those people would train everyone on security and it'd just become a part of everyone's job. This largely falls apart though when the person conducting a security audit is also the person responsible for fixing the holes and appeasing the customers by no
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I've worked for companies that had pretty much all full time employees, and a stable workforce that was probably too dedicated to their company. Yet they had security issues too. I found that over-management actually encouraged mistakes in coding, even if it was their intention to help.
I think the real issue here is that we expect managers, whether they be government officials or actual managers, to motivate people into providing better security. The truth is that every year, more inexperienced people ent
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Not to mention the decade long trend of replacing internal IT staff with contractors. That way you have very few IT internal staff that know anything about anything, and those that do have no time to do anything, and many of them are retiring. Because of "big government". When all it really amounts to is a game of legerdemain, you have a smaller "salary" footprint, but you probably spend twice that on consultants anyway, just to look smaller. When all your projects are done by consultants, what few internal
What a waste of money (Score:3)
Oops, there's the problem. "No additional money spent" means a program will never get off the ground in Washington.
F-35 (Score:3)
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No doubt this will turn into the F-35 of IT security: badly designed, poorly implemented, over budget, behind schedule, and ultimately ineffective.
Like anything the government does.
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... badly designed, poorly implemented, over budget, behind schedule, and ultimately ineffective.
Sounds like every other IT project I've ever seen.
And to save money . . . (Score:2)
You go, Obama, you go . . .
Recommended reading:
Sold Out, by Michelle Malkin and John Miano
Outsourcing America, by Ron Hira
More slops for the trough (Score:3)
Great, yet another federal bureaucracy (actually, two) to get in the way and generally screw things up.
Really, it's just another way to feed taxpayer funds to political friends, all under a "feel good" title.
Already a Failure.... (Score:2)
If step one of his plan is not to fire all the idiots in charge and replace every single one with someone that has a MINIMUM 10 years experience on the ground with cybersecurity, then it's a failure.
Law enforcement people are idiots when it comes to Cyber security, you need real people that know what the hell they are doing in order to be smart enough to make decisions and direct properly.
Instead we get Executives that barely know how to lock a door properly put in charge and they make stupid decisions tha
More money we don't have! (Score:2)
For yet another big government pork project!
Fuck Obama.
Only $19B more. (Score:2)
Meh, it's only money not counting what we already spend in this area. Hey, here's a nifty idea. With all the loopholes and private e-mails flying around with secure information, why not admit we failed and start over? That means get rid of the so called "experts" from Booze Allen et al. and at the NSA and replace it with the kind of infrastructure we need to protect our National Security. Oh and enforce the fucking espionage laws including those faux pas of those elected and un-elected officials who de
Another EO? (Score:3)
Another Executive Order? Is that the only way that things get done these days? Did Obama even bother to try to work with Congress? I think not. The only thing coming out of the Oval Office these days are EO's so the process is obviously being abused.
I think we should change the rules on what Executive Orders are and how they can be used. Currently they are being used as a way to push forward whatever the President wants - regardless of what Congress votes on or what the majority of American citizens want. If Congress cannot come to an agreement on a bill then it should not become a law.
If we are going to have a system of government where the President passes all the laws (and, by the way, an EO is NOT a law) then we should just abolish the Congress and have a King. Welcome to Indonesia West.
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Cyber... (Score:2)
You know whenever I hear "cyber" used, I know it is some US Government flunky who is using the term. Nobody calls it "cyberspace" anymore unless you're talking to senior citizens or the government. It's as jarring as listening to actors trying to sound "hip" on some 1960s filmstrip in school.
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19 Big Ones (Score:4, Funny)
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Seems more like pork to me. The problem with cybersecurity right now mainly comes from basically anybody and everybody running old shit that is vulnerable. A classic example is Android 2.3 devices that people still carry around. And of course, large companies that have obsolete OSes still running on the public internet.
This whole IoT mess is only going to make it much worse. What's needed are rules establishing a minimum standard to raise the bar for longer term security updates. I.e. rules to the effect of
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That and have the backbone providers throttle (or better yet, outright drop) foreign originated DDoS traffic, since obviously the US can't set rules for other countries' broadband providers.
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Indeed cool.
He must mean pest control, since over 90% of the internet access ruptures were rats (Sacramento), squirrels and termites.
To bury all those cables underground like a normal nation naturally doesn't come to mind, too expensive apparently, but 10s of thousands of power, internet and phone outages each year are apparently also ok.
And I don't even mention storms, snow, ice rain and drunks.
As long as anybody can just walk to a wisely chosen wooden post with an axe those billions are just pork. And if
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He's a lame duck, and Trump is just gonna undo anything he signs into law, so what's the point? Might as well just brush up on his golf game. Fore!
Trump? The entire Republican Party has been attempting to undo everything Obama ever did since the day he took office. I wouldn't be surprised if they declared him an unperson before they're done.
I understand that the Replublicans and Democrats have different philosophies, but this wholesale eradication crusade that they've adopted is beyond reason.
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Huh? Bank and corporation CEOs now vote democrat? Really?
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Yes - it's been that way for a decade
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/0... [ijreview.com]
It's starting to change. I guess companies do get tired of being made the target of blame for all of our countries woes
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-... [thehill.com]
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Try disobeying an Executive Order. Then you'll realize that they are considered "law".
Now, if what you're saying is that we can ignore them without consequences, then I'm in full agreement (in principle). But we all know that laws aren't meant for the rich and powerful, only us serfs.
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Try disobeying an Executive Order. Then you'll realize that they are considered "law".
Unless they are challenged in court and found to be unconstitutionally out of bounds for the president to have issued in the first place. Obama has lost in court multiple times on that front so far.
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My objection is that they are assumed "law" but never having been through the Legislature, cannot be "law" ... by definition. So the assumption should be "these aren't laws, more like guidelines".
The problem isn't executive orders, it is that they aren't really laws, but are still treated as laws.
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I wish I had points to vote this up.
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Yet he continues to drive up the national debt and seems to have no plains on how to pay back what we owe.
That's because no politician wants to raise taxes. The problem is only going to get worse in the next 20 years when the baby boomers retire and fewer workers are paying taxes. Social security and Medicare will take two-thirds of the federal budget. Everything else will have to come out of one-third of the budget and/or more deficit spending.
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Obama budget passed during his presidency = 0
So any GDP debt would be the fault of congress.
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So easily people forget that the Republicans were unable to do the exact same thing in 2006 when they had control and a Republican in the White House. And by forget I mean purposely ignore so they can say the same thing to the other side.
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Next you realize that 'unveiling a plan' and 'asking Congress for funding' have nothing to do with executive orders, and maybe, just maybe, resolve to not be such a knee-jerk when you see the name of a political figure that you regularly disagree with.
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Here's a hint, they do it pretty much every year. Congress doesn't have to listen to it, of course, though they sometimes do.
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DFAS and MHS are both excellent and highly visible examples to cite here. That said there are hundreds if not thousands of smaller applications that are just as problematic because they were never designed and built with security in mind. When dealing with these entrenched programs security usually boils down to everyone filing mountains of CYA paperwork rather than actually securing anything.
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He's going to visit Hillary?