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Italian Military To Switch To LibreOffice and ODF 106

jrepin writes: The Italian military is transitioning to LibreOffice and the Open Document Format (ODF). The Ministry of Defense will over the next year-and-a-half install this suite of office productivity tools on some 150,000 PC workstations — making it Europe's second largest LibreOffice implementation.
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Italian Military To Switch To LibreOffice and ODF

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Truthfully, I wasn't entirely cognizant of the existence of an Italian military.

    It's kind of like the Canadian Navy. If you think about it; well sure they would exist. But did you actually realize that they exist?

    • Of course Italy has an army. It gives the Italian designers something to practice on.
      Apparently even Armani has had a hand in their uniform designs. []

    • > It's kind of like the Canadian Navy. If you think about it; well sure they would exist.

      Technically they exist, and they do serve a role, a role similar in some ways to the US Coast Guard.

      Canada's navy operates 1 destroyer, 12 frigates, 4 patrol submarines, 12 coastal defense vessels and 8 unarmed patrol/training vessels. They have about 8,000 sailors.

      Each US carrier battle group includes about eight surface warships like those of the RCN, and typically two submarines. Plus a carrier. With 70 planes on

      • wouldn't canada (or anybody) be safer without a friend who goes around the world stirring shit at every possible opportunity?

        i.e. if they had United States of South Canada for a neighbor, i'd imagine the south canadian (mounted) navy wouldn't just run around the world rattling guns and meddling in people's shit.

        • > wouldn't canada (or anybody) be safer

          Well, we've seen the results . Has Canada been invaded since the US Navy was formed? Have they had any need for their own Navy? (Other than for Coast Guard type operations).

          One who is full of their own ideas, and refuses to learn from historical facts about those ideas.

          • by jbengt ( 874751 )

            Has Canada been invaded since the US Navy was formed?

            Yes, they were invaded by the US.

        • "wouldn't canada (or anybody) be safer without a friend who goes around the world stirring shit at every possible opportunity?"

          Well, it depends. Our current world is only big enough for a limited set of military bullies, and it can be argued that the current set has a cardinality of one. So, if you happen not to be friend of the bully... what do you think is the alternative?

  • Satya: (Score:5, Funny)

    by Snufu ( 1049644 ) on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @10:50AM (#50525051)

    Handing a black briefcase to Clippy, "Get these free Office licenses to the Italian Ministry of Defense by any means necessary."

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Clippy: "I see you are about to buy some persuading services from the Italian mafia. Would you like some help formulating an offer they can't refuse?"

  • Wasn't there just a slashdot article a couple weeks ago about how Italian government is switching from LibreOffice back to MS?

  • by Type44Q ( 1233630 ) on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @11:25AM (#50525345)

    ...Sabayon Linux, baby! (And if you don't like it, vaffanculo!!)

    • Sabayon? Gross. Why would anyone choose the Gentoo derivative that forces you to use systemd? The main reason to use Gentoo is that it doesn't force that on you, unlike almost every other distro.
  • I thought I would post something, you know, on topic .... as strange and possibly inappropriate as that concept might sound.

    It appears that when something like this happens, Microsoft picks its moment, finds the moment of maximum chaos (all radical transitions have such moments) and offers a "deal" like cheap Office 365 (or is it 360, or 666, or some other number?) licenses, and some panic-stricken execs go for it rather than wait until the chaos dies down and a stable operating state is achieved.

    I'm as ant

    • by tom229 ( 1640685 )
      They also aren't the first public entity to try this. Many don't weather the transition as Libre has great difficulty with legacy file formats, macros, etc.

      As one anecdotal case, I use LibreOffice in my office while literally everyone else uses MS Office 2010. I'm constantly running into formatting inconsistencies and straight incompatibility with complex spreadsheets. I muddle through it as I have the technical expertise and ideological philosophy that allows, and demands, that I do so; but I wouldn't w
      • by darnkitten ( 1533263 ) on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @02:38PM (#50526779)

        Anecdotally as well, I have had the opposite experience.

        Admittedly, I don't see complex spreadsheets or macro-heavy documents in my library, but patrons bring in old doc, docx, MS Works or WordPerfect documents, as well as a variety of simple spreadsheets and presentations--LibreOffice opens them all, with only minor formatting problems. Libreoffice will even open a large number of Office templates.

        The only persistent problem I have is that whenever I do a LibreOffice upgrade, Windows switches all the open/save preferences from Libreoffice back to MS Office.

      • by esonik ( 222874 )

        Anecdotally, I have the opposite to report.

        Where Excel 2003 would fail to load an complex file, OpenOffice (didn't try LibreOffice at that time) would load the same file just fine.
        Complex in the sense of lot's of cells used ( a few hundred rows with about 50 columns - not that much actually), with only basic arithmetic- no funky math or functions used.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      AFAIK, the Scottish police and the French police (or was it the Gendarmerie?) are still using Open/Libre Office, and have been doing so for quite some time. Haven't heard anything about if for quite some time, so I guess they're happy with it.

      And actually, Microsoft isn't very good at marketing. They are good at corruption and on playing on peoples fear and ignorance, which might explain why they are having some problems with convincing the police. : >

      • I should have been more clear. When I said "marketing" I meant to include Machiavellian meanings. Perhaps saying "Microsoft is good at selling" would have been better --- selling, whether through persuasion, coercion, etc. .... or, heaven forbid, offering value if there's no other way.

      • "And actually, Microsoft isn't very good at marketing. They are good at corruption and on playing on peoples fear and ignorance"

        Why do you think corruption and FUD are not marketing tools along many others?

        And given current corporate ethos, as dignified as any other, I should add.

  • Va bene cosi.

  • by Ravaldy ( 2621787 ) on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @02:33PM (#50526719)

    Company CTOs or equivalent need to understand the needs of their company before they pick a product. Here's a list that shows the products side by side:
    https://wiki.documentfoundatio... []

  • This is going to quickly become a trend as more and more foreign governments realize MS can't be trusted.

  • by MrL0G1C ( 867445 ) on Tuesday September 15, 2015 @06:45PM (#50528363) Journal

    I've slated LibreOffice in the past for constant crashes and formatting problems.

    They've done a great job of fixing bugs, it no longer crashes regularly and I haven't noticed any formatting issues with 5.0.x

  • What I really want to know is what kind of toilet paper they use.

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