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Windows 8.1 Update Crippling PCs With BSOD, Microsoft Suggests You Roll Back 304

MojoKid writes Right on schedule, Microsoft rolled-out an onslaught of patches for its "Patch Tuesday" last week, and despite the fact that it wasn't the true "Update 2" for Windows 8.1 many of us were hoping for, updates are generally worth snatching up. Since the patch rollout, it's been discovered that four individual updates are causing random BSoD issues for its users, with KB2982791, a kernel-mode related driver, being the biggest culprit. Because of the bug's severity, Microsoft is recommending that anyone who updated go and uninstall a couple of the specific updates, or rollback using Windows Restore. You can uninstall these updates in much the same way you uninstall any app; the difference is that once you're in the "Programs and Features" section, you'll need to click on "View installed updates" on the left. While it's mostly recommended that you uninstall 2982791, you may wish to uninstall the others as well, just in case.
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Windows 8.1 Update Crippling PCs With BSOD, Microsoft Suggests You Roll Back

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 17, 2014 @09:16PM (#47691905)

    If it was just one update I might agree with you, but deciding to release four different bad updates at the same time is just ridiculous. All of my friends that worked in QA there have been laid-off, but even that doesn't justify the decision to release known bad updates.

  • by msobkow ( 48369 ) on Sunday August 17, 2014 @09:34PM (#47691973) Homepage Journal

    I've learned the hard way over the years. Never let Windows Update install a driver of any kind. Ever.

    I've had them blow out network cards, video cards, sound cards, and low level on-board devices. I've had them completely bork systems to the point where they were unbootable.

    Go to the vendor and get the official updates.

    I don't know how they do it, but Windows Update perpetually mis-identifies hardware and installs the wrong drivers, delivers broken drivers, and otherwise screws up when it comes to drivers. Yet the official vendor's drivers (such as Intel) work just fine.

    Go figure. One would think Microsoft is just redeploying those same drivers, but years of being burned have taught me that's not the case.

  • by xeno ( 2667 ) on Sunday August 17, 2014 @09:36PM (#47691985)

    One of the bits of logic used for recent layoff and reorgs has been something like 'component/security/etc testing had become so mature at Microsoft (!) and ingrained into normal dev processes, that such a large population of SDETs (testers) across OS and key office products is unecessary.' Just chew on that for a second, and ponder how intensely stupid that seems.

    But nevermind my opinion; I guess we're getting some at-scale empirical testing of whether getting rid of testers en masse was a good idea.

  • by Nyder ( 754090 ) on Sunday August 17, 2014 @10:30PM (#47692235) Journal

    One thing I have learned over the course of MS OS's lives, is to NEVER update the computer at within a week of the updates being released. MS had a nice reputation for putting out crappy patches every now and then.

    You are the product tester and you get to pay for it. So be smart, let the stupid people get the BSOD's so you don't have to.

  • by ozmanjusri ( 601766 ) <aussie_bobNO@SPAMhotmail.com> on Monday August 18, 2014 @12:07AM (#47692563) Journal

    The scary thing about Linux

    There's more than one Linux, and it's very easy to choose a stable distro that doesn't live on the bleeding edge.

  • by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Monday August 18, 2014 @01:05AM (#47692739) Journal
    Isn't it sad that in 2014, font processing on Windows still happens in the kernel? Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of shifting around their UI, Microsoft spent time moving font processing out of the kernel?

    Here is Microsoft's workaround [microsoft.com]. Notice how it involves fonts and the registry. The registry: another 'gift' that keeps on giving.
  • by LesFerg ( 452838 ) on Monday August 18, 2014 @01:10AM (#47692753) Homepage

    I can usually find some way to boot into a repair mode and get things running again in Linux (I usually go with Debian) without having to follow the Microsoft approach of restoring my whole O/S from the install disk - which some people have been forced to do with these recent update bugs as they can't even get a boot into Windows safe mode.

    I have never had an update hose my Linux system so badly that I cannot get in there and replace or remove the offending driver or whatever.

  • by chipschap ( 1444407 ) on Monday August 18, 2014 @01:11AM (#47692759)

    I've never, ever had the severe kinds of problems you mention, and I've been on Ubuntu or its derivatives (most recently Mint) for years and years. And this is across maybe a dozen machines of all descriptions, and with all sorts of graphics cards, including the dreaded nvidia, which works just fine and only required a little patience.

    That is not to say I take the position that Linux is completely golden and Windows is purely trash. There are always bugs and problems. However, given what I paid for my Linux distros, I think I got a really good deal which far exceeds expectations.

    The problem is that some vocal Windows people will jump on Linux bugs as "proof" that Linux is not "ready" and so on. But Microsoft's latest antic convinces me that Windows, after how many years, is less ready.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 18, 2014 @03:17AM (#47693039)

    Seriously? You can't file taxes either by hand or in a browser? If so, that's an epic fail by the Australian government. Can't blame linux for that stupidity.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 18, 2014 @04:48AM (#47693239)

    Thing is, it's so maintenance-heavy, it costs way more to provision and admin than just about everything else around.

    Nonsense. On the desktop (and ONLY on the desktop), Windows consistently has lowest TCO. Apple systems have some very decent software in certain markets, and should be chosen where this platform makes the worker more productive, but base costs are slightly higher and (more importantly) administrative tools are severely lacking. A competent admin may be needed to automate deployment, but once that's done, you have everyone else in the building being more productive than with some half-assed Open Source offering or inefficient, insecure joke of a cloud offering.

    It is an utterly false economy to regard the cost of an Office license or the time taken to install it as significant compared to the continual productivity loss from second rate solutions. Anyway, even if you're paying minimum wage with no benefits and no overheads (i.e. imagination), the "software licensing and maintenance" cost is still a teeny part of overall monthly expenditure associated with each employee.

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