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China Admits Anonymous Hacks Occured 33

New submitter SolKeshNaranek writes "After Anonymous hacked hundreds of Chinese government, company, and other general websites, China has acknowledged the attacks. Meanwhile, Anonymous China has not stopped its onslaught. 'A few targets have had their administrator accounts, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses posted publicly. Last but not least, on many of the hacked sites, the group even posted tips for how to circumvent the Great Firewall of China. While Anonymous was not specifically mentioned, it's obvious what China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs was referring to during a briefing on Thursday, given the events during the last week.'"
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China Admits Anonymous Hacks Occured

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  • by Sebastopol ( 189276 ) on Friday April 06, 2012 @04:41PM (#39601675) Homepage

    I am not a hacker.

    Is defacing a website a big deal? Or just the equivalent of spray-paint tagging?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      It's like breaking into the lobby of a bank and spray painting the windows from the inside, so not a terrible thing on the surface, but potentially bad depending on how secure the rest of the bank is from the lobby.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Not even remotely close. It's like breaking into the lobby of the bank, tying up all the tellers, and replacing them with people who tell the visitors your manifesto when they come in to do their banking. And/or possibly copy down their account information when they try to make a transaction. And maybe find the teller's passwords written on notes underneath their keyboards. A pretty bad thing on the surface, and possibly terrible, depending on how secure the bank's computer system is.

  • The perfect cover (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Nidi62 ( 1525137 ) on Friday April 06, 2012 @04:52PM (#39601781)
    Of course they acknowledge the hacks. There is nothing better for the government of China than to have a large group of hackers known to exist in China. It gives them the perfect cover and defense for their own hacking program. Now if something gets hacked and the hack is traced back to China, the government doesn't have to deny that a hack took place; they can just point to these hackers. The government now has a scapegoat for the next time they get caught hacking.
    • by game kid ( 805301 ) on Friday April 06, 2012 @04:57PM (#39601839) Homepage

      As an added bonus it gives them an excuse to (try to) make the Great Firewall even tighter (and if you're wise enough to oppose their tighter controls they can just say "what are of them anti-patriotic hackers!?" as they confiscate your machine and send you to labor).

    • It isn't merely that: there is no reason to suspect that all of the hackers were domestic(anybody seriously think that some free range script kiddie who suspects that the security of random Chinese websites is as bad or worse than random American ones, and the FBI doesn't care about them nearly as much, wouldn't have a try?), which allows them to do the "Oh, look, many nation-states and corporations are victimized by hackers, just like us, alas." line(which is certainly not false, but reports suggest that d
    • Assad blames terrorists.

      Putin blames foreign meddling.

      An abusive husband/ boyfriend blames his wife's/ girlfriend's choice of dress.

      Etc., etc.

      Abusers everywhere always have a convenient excuse to be an abuser.

      So I don't understand what the point of your post is. They will ALWAYS have an excuse. Is your point that if Anonymous didn't do what they did the Chinese Govt would go "we found no excuse today to deny Chinese people their freedoms so we're letting them express themselves freely now."

      Seriously, what is your point? There is ALWAYS a scapegoat.

      Pointing out that an abuser has an excuse or can find an excuse is completely useless. Explaining their excuse is useless. It's still just an excuse, and they can always find one. A scapegoat requires no effort and can be imagined in any way possible. Logic and reason is no limitation.

      So please explain to me what the point of your post is?

      • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

        So please explain to me what the point of your post is?

        Did you grow up with a sibling, or perhaps a family pet? If you ever broke something in the house growing up, or drew on the wall, or whatever, you could blame your sister, or the dog. Now, that excuse isn't going to work very well if you're an only child or have no pet, is it? By admitting these attacks, if the Chinese government is ever accused of undertaking or spearheading a hacking campaign, they can say "it wasn't us. We have a large number of hackers within the country, it was probably one of the

        • Are you trying to tell me that if there was no attack by Anonymous the Chinese Government could find no excuse to deny the Chinese people their freedom of expression and would just let free expression reign?

          Is that what you are trying to say?

          If your answer is no, then why do you think they need an excuse to do what they would do no matter what?

          And why do you think the excuse they use even matters?

          The point is to vilify the GOVERNMENT'S behavior. The way you think, it seems that because someone defies an abu

    • You don't entirely get it, acknowledging the attacks feeds into the official line that China is always under attack.

      China is an extremely nationalistic country that continually repeats to its people "China is a very poor country that is under constant attack and must continually allow the Government to provide for its defense at any cost." Thus, any opposition to the Government is seen as actions against The Nation in the face of the enemy.

  • I for one welcome our Chinese Overlords *** SIGNAL LOST ****

    So much for the Great Mudwall of China.

  • How convenient Anonymous took a sudden interest in China, which has been engaging in high level industrial espionage and spying for years. The timing is pretty convenient. How do you like some foreign government mucking around in your computers, bitches?

    If you were the government launching a cyberattack, how would you spin it? Maybe by pinning it on a shadowy group operating outside the control of government? Hanging it on Anonymous makes it deniable.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Yes, and 9/11 was an inside job, we never landed on the moon, Obama is a secret Communist Muslim, Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor beforehand, etc., etc.

      Paranoid schizophrenia is a sad disease.

  • ...they devoted their talents to opening up the Great Firewall.

  • I recall a slashdot story years ago that stated that hackers were found in a study to be below average at securing their own systems because they have a feeling that they're "too smart" and "above" getting hit by their own tactics (and they run pirated copies of XP pro). I guess they were correct, lol.
  • by Karmashock ( 2415832 ) on Friday April 06, 2012 @07:33PM (#39603177)

    It legitimizes further crack downs and more control.

    Look at what terrorists did to the US FBI, CIA, etc? It justified just about anything. And the chinese need that justification because their security ambitions are always about 1000 times more involved.

  • As journalist Adam Minter (Bloomberg, Shanghai) wrote, the reach of the Chinese Internet censors, while generally exaggerated in the Western Press, can reach pretty deeply when so motivated. The main focus of Chinese internet censorship recently went to COMMENTS to microblogs. In this week's article, "Chinese Internet Censors Decide Comments are Dangerous" [] he describes how the rumors of a Beijing Coup last month were dealt with by erasing comment fields... Like these in Slashdot

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