Microsoft Zunes Committing Mass Suicide 785
jddeluxe writes "There are multiple reports springing up all over the internet of a mass suicide of Microsoft 30GB Zune players globally. Check Zune forums, Gizmodo, or other such sites; the reports are spreading rapidly, except apparently to the Microsoft official Zune site."
Suicide? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Suicide? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Suicide? (Score:5, Insightful)
Except that, if it had been a Creative Zen or an iPod, you'd still have it to play your favorite music. No big loss? Come on... You now HAVE to buy a new one.
And here's to Microsoft recognizing the problem (they didn't yet) and fixing it.
Re:Suicide? (Score:5, Informative)
Mine's doing the same thing. I've used the crap out of the thing for about 18 months and it has worked flawlessly.. until now that is. This is appearing on the support site now.
"Status: Customers with 30gb Zune devices may experience issues when booting their Zune hardware. Weâ(TM)re aware of the problem and are working to correct it. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for your patience!"
I got a 120gb iPod for Christmas so I'm watching this fiasco with a smirk. I had hoped to get a few bucks for it on ebay though.
Re:Suicide? (Score:5, Funny)
I think you can get a few bucks for the iPod.
Maybe even enough to buy a decent mp3 player!
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Score: +5, Apple Hater
Problem identified: LEAP YEAR (Score:5, Informative)
Day 365 has passed and this is day 366. This has happened before. This will happen again. All will be well tomorrow.
Thank you,
Microsoft Zune PM
Microsoft confirms Leap Year bug (Score:5, Informative)
Link [pcworld.com]
Bonus: No leap-second problem to deal with today.
Re:Suicide? (Score:4, Insightful)
Anyway, you didn't just lose $50 - you lost $50 plus the cost of eventual replacement, which you shouldn't have needed. The only way you've only lost $50 is if you never replace your broken Zune.
Um. You seem to lack a basic grasp of economics, goods and their values. For example, do you believe that anytime you get a paycheck, say $200, these are money your employer lost? If yes, please let him know of this fact.
Think the following scenarios about the GP:
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He bought a $50 Zune which lasted (say) a year. During this time, he either spent the $300 he would have spent on the Zune on something else and gained use / enjoyment out of it, or he saved it. If he saved it, then the interest he earned on it is likely to cover around a third of the cost of the Zune (more if he bought the Zune over a year ago). He can now buy some other player, but since flash prices have almost halved in the last year will now get one with about double the capacit
Re:Suicide? (Score:5, Funny)
Unless he invested that $300 in stocks, then he might be double screwed.
Maybe he MADE $50 (Score:5, Interesting)
Food for thought.
If he had bought, say, an 80 GB iPod before September of last year, he would have paid $350 for it [cnet.com]. If instead he buys a Zune that lasts a few months for $50 and then buys an 80 GB iPod after September of last year, he would have paid $250 for it, thus a net GAIN of $50.
Point is, depending on how long the Zune lasted and what he gets to replace it, it's entirely possible that he broke even or even came out ahead. Shoot, maybe he'll buy one of those 80 GB iPods used and make a lot more than $50 for waiting on it. Or maybe he'll take advantage of the fact that by just getting by on a $50 Zune for a while, he can buy a much more interesting device now, such as a 32 GB iPod Touch, whereas if he had bought one of the shiny new 80 GB iPod videos a year ago, he likely wouldn't do.
At any rate, I just plain disagree that by buying something cheap now and holding off on getting the bleeding-edge gadgets, you're "losing" money, as should anyone who has, for example, invest $50 or $100 into upgrading a slow component of their desktop instead of going out dropping $2000 on a high-end system every year.
Re:Suicide? (Score:5, Funny)
Oblig. (Score:5, Funny)
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They are all fine! (Score:4, Funny)
The fact that it doesn't load UI and doesn't play music doesn't mean they aren't working perfectly fine. Apparently, they just gained sentience.
Re:Xbox,HD-DVD,Zune...Anyone Admit To Owning All 3 (Score:5, Insightful)
I own 2 of the 3.
Xbox 360 - mine did the RRoD after almost 3 years of fairly heavy use. Guess what? Microsoft replaced it no questions asked. I'm no Microsoft fan, but that was great customer service. When I bought my 360 originally, I was actually pretty anti-Microsoft (Linux, Mac, yadda yadda). But at the time, I considered it the best console for the money. It was good enough that even if Microsoft hadn't replaced it (and after 3 years, I didn't expect them to), I'd have bought another one anyway.
HD-DVD - just bought my HD-DVD add-on for my 360 about 2 weeks ago. Why? Player is dirt cheap, and there's still a ton of HD movies/TV shows out there. Since it's a "dead" format, most stores are clearing them out DIRT cheap. I picked up 10-15 HD movies the other day for an average of $8 each (brand new, not the used ones Blockbuster is selling). That's way more attractive to me than the $30 average price for the BlueRay stuff (which I also buy for my PS3).
Yeah, I know you're trolling, but take it from someone who owns all three major consoles (360, PS3, Wii) - the 360 is a great console (though I'm not thrilled with the new Dashboard look) and holds its own against the PS3 in every place it matters - performance, graphics, game selection, etc. Sure you can beat it up on tech specs these days, but I still probably play it 2:1 over the PS3.
Re:Xbox,HD-DVD,Zune...Anyone Admit To Owning All 3 (Score:5, Funny)
Every time I hear the name "Zune", for some reason I look around for sandworms [wikipedia.org].
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Worst Console Ever.
Dead Movie Format
and a dead 'iPod killer' with a stupid brand name
It's hilarious in a pathetic sort of way to know there are huge numbers of diehard Microsoft fanboys out there who are actually dumb enough to own all three of those Microsoft turds.
If you're looking for a company with a history of failed product launches, look instead to Sony. With their sudden success with Blu-ray, I'm starting to think there's a chance the Cubs might win the World Series.
Re:Idiot Owns Himself (Score:5, Interesting)
Betamax, DAT, MMCD, MiniDisc, ATRAC, ATRAC-3, SDDS, NetMD, Hi-MD, Memory Stick (Duo/Micro), UMD, HDV, SACD, HiFD, MicroMV, BBeB, ECP, ARccOS....
Sony's problem is that it wants standards to be proprietary to them. Some of the above still exist solely because of Sony's bullheadedness, typically only usable with Sony hardware, especially when it is to the exclusion of support for the open standards. Some were/may be superior technology, but keeping a stranglehold on the technology is the undoing of their efforts time and time again. My god, the cabling requirements for SACD players to stereo receivers were unreasonable, even with players that had HDMI ports (though granted DVD-Audio also failed to catch on).
Sony's formats and media succeed when partnerships with other companies (like Philips) force them to be more open. Sony's success is often in spite of their best efforts.
At least with Blu-ray and gaming the competition in the market was/is straightforward and not like their ATRAC-3 players refusing to play the established MP3 format.
(I own several Sony products, including a PS3 and a 400-disc DVD changer that also plays SACDs. I only own two SACD titles. I'm still buying HD DVD titles on the cheap. I may yet find myself buying a Sony HD video camera as Sony seems to be successfully dominating that market.)
BZOD (Score:5, Funny)
Blue Zune Of Death!
Re:BZOD (Score:5, Funny)
3 bit years should be enough for anyone. (Score:5, Funny)
I guess they just allocated a 3 bit year, in their systems (starting year 2000). Hey who would think there would still have Zunes around b 2009.
Re:3 bit years should be enough for anyone. (Score:5, Interesting)
I guess they just allocated a 3 bit year, in their systems (starting year 2000). Hey who would think there would still have Zunes around b 2009.
I think your issue may more likely be a leap year issue, with the Zune calculating the length of the year in seconds, but did not take into account that 2008 is one day longer because of 29 February.
Which would explain why they are failing before new year's, rather than after.
Article summary (Score:5, Insightful)
Nice to see the editors are on the job.
Re:Article summary (Score:5, Insightful)
Indeed.
How does crap like this make it to the front page?
Can we get an edit on the summary? Not only are there spelling mistakes, but the summary is just flat wrong about how Microsoft is reacting to the problem.
Look, I have issues with Microsoft as much as the next geek, but this summary is just moronic and childish. Can we get a fix please?
Re:Article summary (Score:5, Informative)
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Yeah, it's quite amazing really, even more so when the Firehose had 4-5 different submissions all based upon this story, and they chose the worst (poorly worded, factual errors, "Micro$oft", inflammatory headline) of them all!
I do like a good MS bash every so often (stress relief from dealing with their products) but I do prefer it to be at least semi-intellectual, rather than just throwing around silly insults...
Oh yeah, and my cheap Chinese £20 Ipod knockoff is still functioning well... plays .ogg t
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Wait. You're implying that they sometimes do read the entries?
Is this a troll? (Score:5, Funny)
30mb Zune? Micro$oft? Go back to /b/ CmdrTaco
I don't usually complain about summaries... (Score:5, Insightful)
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...but it doesn't tell me what's happening, sounds sensationalist, and actually uses "Micro$oft" - who types that???
It also claims that the reports are spreading to everywhere except the official Zune site, but the forums on the official Zune site have these reports as well. Apparently the article submitter would expect Microsoft to put a massive panic-filled announcement on the front page: "OH NOES TEH ZUNE$ ARE ALL TEH SUX0RZ!!!11!ELEVEN"
Basically, a few people are having problems with one particular Zune. Some on the forum have fixed it themselves, and I couldn't help but notice that at least a few of them are refurb
Re:I don't usually complain about summaries... (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?sa=X [google.com]
Those are today's top one hundred google searches. As of now, ten of the top forty searches are zune related. Something tells me this is a bit more that "a few people..." I agree that the article is sensationalist, but there's a hearty grain of truth in there.
re (Score:5, Funny)
Let me know when one commits homicide. That will be news.
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Gotta hand it to MicroSoft (Score:5, Funny)
They've successfully dispelled the rumor that no own owns a Zune.
Re:Gotta hand it to MicroSoft (Score:5, Funny)
...and replaced it with the rumor that no one owns a *working* Zune.
Value did get lost :( (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Value did get lost :( (Score:5, Insightful)
I feel sorry for MSFT.
Really? You have a broken player and they have your money, but you feel bad for them?
Re:Value did get lost :( (Score:5, Insightful)
This kind of things can happen to every company, true. However, this seems to happen to Microsoft a lot... And in many of those cases, it was proven that Microsoft knew about the issue but decided to release the product anyway: the bugs in Windows Vista, the Red Ring of Death of the Xbox... Please note that is not a criticism of the Microsoft employees but of the corporate cultural at the executive level that lead them to those issues.
Re:Value did get lost :( (Score:5, Informative)
Please note that is not a criticism of the Microsoft employees but of the corporate cultural at the executive level that lead them to those issues.
I'm not an MS employee, but I work at a large semiconductor company. I really like my coworkers and my boss, but the executives running this company are a bunch of idiots. As a result, our company isn't performing all that well, and our products are shoddy (it's hard to make good products with no funding, and when you lay off design teams before they have a chance to fix any bugs). My job consists mainly of trying to come up with workarounds for bugs.
If someone were to insult my company's products, I wouldn't be offended at all, and I'd probably agree with them.
As far as I'm concerned, any low-level employee who gets upset about someone insulting his company and its products has emotional issues. It's just a job, and unless you're an executive, you have no real control over anything, and also no responsibility for anything.
$la$hdot, your be$t $ource for tech new$ (Score:5, Funny)
Al$o I think $omeone me$$ed around with my keyboard driver$...
I heard a song about this once... (Score:5, Funny)
You don't need no entertainment
You dont need no Zune control
No dark sarcasm on the nets
People leave them Zunes alone
Hey! people! Leave them Zunes alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
song parody (Score:5, Funny)
but something touched me deep inside...the day the 30 gigs died
I started singing "bye, bye MS 30 gig zune"
tried to download from the zune store but the zune store was dry
and the ms fanboys were drinking whiskey and rye
the day...the 30 gigs died
Re:song parody (Score:4, Funny)
I see the bad Zune arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see blue screens and crashing
I see bad times today.
Dont turn it on tonight,
Well, its bound to take its life,
Theres a bad Zune on the rise.
Designed Obsolescence (Score:5, Funny)
Designed Obsolescence.
You didn't really think they'd support this thing through 2009 did you? Oh, go back and read your EULA. It clearly states that at the start of 2009 you'll have to pay a subscription fee for you unit to continue working. You signed it in blood from the paper cut. Legally binding in hell.
Re:Designed Obsolescence (Score:5, Insightful)
You joke about this, but Microsoft actually has the best track record for non-designed obsolescence among all the digital audio player manufacturers out there. When they came out with new generation Zunes, they rolled out all the updates to older generation owners as well.
These updates were also free, unlike the updates for the iPod Touch (interesting how some companies supposedly have to charge for updates with new features under accounting rules, and others don't).
I don't approve of a lot of things Microsoft does, but I have to say that objectively, they've been a real class act as far as supporting older Zunes goes.
Leap Day... (Score:5, Interesting)
This year has 366 days in it instead of the normal 365.
So if you did (365-day) you could end up with -1 which might cause either a crash or freeze.
Just one (likely) possible cause. If that is the case it should fix its self tomorrow.
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then why didn't this happen in 2004 - there were Zunes then (weren't there?)
Re:Leap Day... (Score:5, Interesting)
According to wiki, the first Zune was released on Nov of 2006.
Re:Leap Day... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Leap Day... (Score:5, Funny)
Just one (likely) possible cause. If that is the case it should fix its self tomorrow.
Or it could be the Zune Rapture. This wouldn't have happened if you hadn't put Marilyn Manson on it.
The Fix (Score:5, Informative)
According to Herman at gizmodo, this is the solution:
"Your zune will need a "hard reset."
To do this, use a small screwdriver to pop off the plastic shielding where the zune cable plugs into and remove the two screws on either side of the plug. Next pop the cover off and locate the battery plug at the top left corner of the zune, using your screw driver, pop the cable connection half way off, and do this to the other plug on the right side. Wait 3 seconds, then push down the right connector and then the left battery connecter. Your zune should start up immediately. Press the backing of the zune down (make sure headphone jack is aligned) and put the screws and cover back in place.
It's an easy process but if you're unsure don't attempt it if you think you'll screw it or something. :)"
Not pretty, but it might help those of you who have this problem.
According to others on the forum, it is caused by the new firmware, so you might not want to update it. Changing the clock might be a temporary fix if you want the new firmware.
Re:The Fix (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The Fix (Score:5, Informative)
According to Herman at gizmodo, this is the solution:
"Your zune will need a "hard reset."
To do this, use a small screwdriver to pop off the plastic shielding where the zune cable plugs into and remove the two screws on either side of the plug. Next pop the cover off and locate the battery plug at the top left corner of the zune, using your screw driver, pop the cable connection half way off, and do this to the other plug on the right side. Wait 3 seconds, then push down the right connector and then the left battery connecter. Your zune should start up immediately. Press the backing of the zune down (make sure headphone jack is aligned) and put the screws and cover back in place.
It's an easy process but if you're unsure don't attempt it if you think you'll screw it or something. :)"
Not pretty, but it might help those of you who have this problem.
According to others on the forum, it is caused by the new firmware, so you might not want to update it. Changing the clock might be a temporary fix if you want the new firmware.
According to several users in the Zune thread at Zune.net forums, even Zunes running original or other older firmware is affected.
Re:The Fix (Score:5, Funny)
And all accross this great nation of ours countless tiny screws are getting lost in the carpet.
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You are overestimating the amount of zune users out there...
Re:The Fix (Score:4, Informative)
Others have reported [zunescene.mobi] that the hard-reset only works until you try to charge or sync it. Zunicide 2008!
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It's a firmware bug. (Score:5, Informative)
I have 2 of them. 1 for hacking the other for my daughter. Her zune locked up, I went downstairs and dug out of the box the old zune that has never been updated. Yes date and time are pretty close to accurate.
MSFT drones mucked up the clock ocde in the firmware over the past year.
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You bought two zunes?
Firmware Problem (Score:5, Informative)
Zunes with older firmwares are unaffected, a hard reset will blow away the current firmware and get your Zune working again.
Already have the fix posted at The Tech Empire [techemperor.com]
Whoot, go me.
Zune 3.11 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:NOT Zune 3.11 (Score:5, Funny)
but... Zune 3.11 for Workgroups
'Committed Suicide?' (Score:5, Insightful)
Have to say though, I'd hate to be MS Zune support at this point - most of the staff will be off or in serious party mood, not what you need when something this big happens.
Re:'Committed Suicide?' (Score:4, Funny)
It might be the DRM code, in which case "suicide" is appropriate.
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Bailout? (Score:5, Funny)
"No one will buy our products ever since the Zune Fiasco! Give us money! WA WA WA!"
Checked Google Trends lately? (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.google.com/trends [google.com]
At the time I loaded the page:
1. zune frozen
2. reset zune
3. zune locked up
4. zune troubleshooting
Re:Checked Google Trends lately? (Score:5, Funny)
New Trademark (Score:3, Funny)
In the meantime in Redmond... (Score:5, Funny)
...people see Zunes commiting suicide by flying out from Ballmer's office.
DRMfail (Score:3, Funny)
I sooo hope this is related to the DRM on the device. That would totally make my day/year, as well as that of every other anti-DRM person.
How does this happen???? (Score:5, Insightful)
Please explain to me how Microsoft bungles such a simple thing. Do they really not test this crap or what?
I mean, it would be one thing if it was some unknown, unforseeable bug -- but this is a fucking leap year problem. Hell, we studied that problem back when I learned Cobol. In 1991.
So again, how does this happen this day and age? Even for Microsoft, this is so far below "acceptable" that I can't believe it happened.
Y2K 8 years late? (Score:3, Funny)
All thosr MP3 will be lost... (Score:3, Funny)
...like tears in rain.
We get it's a 366 days issue. Begs the question. (Score:4, Interesting)
The big question is, why the hell does an MP3 player care about the days of the year? For some, it's as simple as having date/time info on the player, but let's not forget, the Zune is also packed with new DRM to ensure people do not abuse the Zune Pass (flat monthly fee introduced in November for unlimited tunes and some TV shows). DRM, again, is epic fail.
Huh. Microsoft has some cool new thing they want ready by the holidays. They rush it, there's a tiny bug, and it costs the company zillions in $ and PR headaches. Familiar, much?
Microsoft official fix: drain battery. Really (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft has announced their official fix: [zune.net]
Really. That's their fix.
If you have a Zune, but haven't used it today, don't turn it on before 0000 UT 01 JAN 2009.
Re:Real mature (Score:4, Informative)
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It's already kind of lame when someone spells it M$ or Micro$oft in a comment but... in the summary? Childish much?
My apologies for offending your employer. Speaking of childish antics, I wonder if Steve Ballmer got a new chair for Christmas?
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I hear Bill got him a few throw pillows for the sofa.
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I call BS. It had nothing to do with "In-joke". I've known about the "Micro$oft" for years and years and coded in BASIC well before that. It's always been about the money, always has been, probably always will.
Re:Real mature (Score:5, Funny)
For my next trick, there are only 10 types of people in the world, those who get binary and those who..."
... get laid?
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It's too bad you couldn't simultaneously make that joke and put yourself on the right side of the comparison....
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Re:Real mature (Score:5, Informative)
It's actually a long tradition that started with Compu$erve.
If you're primarily a Linux user and then try to get anything running on a Windows server, the $ will seem quite appropriate. It seems the only thing M$ doesn't do to hit you up for more cash is rent Windows by the hour. What's so wrong with expressing that opinion neatly in a single character change?
That too is common. Other names you might hear/read in a similar vein (which may or may not reflect my personal opinion) include Burger Thing, Qwost, Stop and Rob, Tragic Markup, Circuit Shitty, etc.
Re:Real mature (Score:5, Informative)
It seems the only thing M$ doesn't do to hit you up for more cash is rent Windows by the hour.
They're working on that too. No joke. IIRC, it was posted on Slashdot before. I think it had something to do with a patent.
Re:Real mature (Score:4, Informative)
It's already kind of lame when someone spells it M$ or Micro$oft in a comment but...
Yeah. I'm one of the ones that had to learn to not be childish with that use on /.
Do you go back as far to CP/M? The history of CP/M, CP/M-86, QDOS and the *original* PC-DOS? If you had - and I suspect you don't - you might cut some people some slack for that usage.
There exists a pre-PC-DOS link to a statement that Bill Gates put out regarding piracy of BASIC and denigrating everyone for how much money he was losing, how much he and his guys had invested in time and dollars and so forth. It was a little whiney, but he was pretty much spot on regarding the whole piracy thing. http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_01/gatesletter.html [digibarn.com]
And in those days - just like today - we all paid close attention to Intel. The 8086 was out there, we were all waiting for CP/M-86 stability to get a better computing environment. And CP/M-86 was taking time because it was work and because it was going to be (and eventually was) a quality product.
Seattle Computer Products, a hardware mfgr, created the Quick and Dirty Operating System (QDOS) and despite revisionist history, to ostensibly debug their hardware in anticipation of CP/M-86.
The follow-on history is very nicely summarized right here: http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:tIEkLM0yDDkJ:maben.homeip.net/static/S100/software/microsoft/DOS/The%2520origins%2520of%2520MS-DOS.ppt+qdos+S-100+quick+and+dirty+operating+system&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us [74.125.45.132] - that's the html/cached version, if you want the PPT file, it's here: http://maben.homeip.net/static/S100/software/microsoft/DOS/The%20origins%20of%20MS-DOS.ppt [homeip.net]
Part of the backstory on his money loss was that the Osborne had come out, but then the KayPro did too, was doing better, and was getting a lot of attention for the superior (to MS) S-BASIC. So, sales of MS BASIC were not what the company expected. In fact, here's the backstory on Microsoft's creation and the importance of MS-BASIC. I putting the cached link and the orig - I couldn't get the orig server to respond as I write this: http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:kKA51ycXpCAJ:www.thocp.net/companies/microsoft/microsoft_company.htm+history+of+altair+basic&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us [74.125.45.132] and http://www.thocp.net/companies/microsoft/microsoft_company.htm [thocp.net]
But add up the history: BASIC w/ license disputes, QDOS w/ license disputes, OS/2 w/ license disputes, Windows w/ license disputes.
Microsoft was once a darling company to many of us. They freed us from the clutches of IBM mini-computers and mainframes at work. It was a pain in the ass, but we could do desktop programming in BASIC rather than getting time to do our FORTRAN calculations on an IBM.
IBM was under attack by the US Justice Dept. in the early 80s - we couldn't have been happier. Then, Microsoft - as a company - was becoming the new IBM, with all of its evil.
I - and many others - were quite accustomed to calling them Micro$oft and M$ by the mid-to-late 80s for their stunts.
I lived through that history. I watched a company that I supported putting the screws to people in the industry.
I was pissed the first time a pretty good post of mine was labeled troll and attacked with
Re:Real mature (Score:5, Funny)
That is a common mistake that anyone who is older then 30 years can do. Dag Nabbit, Back in my day I would have pined for a 30 megabyte music player. We had to use instruments fashioned out on animal hides and termite infested wood. Then pay from memory the music. And it never sounded as good as you remembered it.
Re:Real mature (Score:5, Funny)
Then pay from memory the music.
I believe you are mistaken. To my knowledge, it is still free to remember music, but the RIAA is working with the US government to close this so-called 'neural hole'. They're really just looking after the good of the artists. Really.
Re:Real mature (Score:5, Funny)
You had wood? Spoiled kid.
Are you kidding? When I was a kid I had wood constantly. Now that I'm [much] older I can only dream...
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You ate a McDonald's Big Mac once. It's well known that their minimum wage employees occasionally jack off into the secret sauce. So it's perfectly fair to call you a cum guzzling jiz mop.
M$ seen as perfectly cromulent (Score:3, Interesting)
M$ is an excellent way of disambiguating the abbreviation, which could otherwise cause confusion between Mississippi, Multiple Sclerosis, Manuscript, and so on. It has the added advantage of clearly announcing the author's POV, and for anyone who was paying attention at the time, recalls the bad old days of undocumented DOS, public and private Windows APIs, "embrace and extend", and so on.
Micro$oft has put a lot of effort into refining the behaviors that have earned it the dollar sign in its name. It is
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Well, the cell apoptosis that leads to your insides not working in some cases IS called suicide. It's just in that case that it isn't you but your cells that commit the suicide (you are simply collateral damage).
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Ah, antifreeze. Sinfully delicious...
Re:How do I know it's dying.. (Score:5, Funny)
Then you must cut the one ring from Sauron's hand, carry it to the fire of Mt. Doom and cast it into the cauldron.
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