PlayStation 3 'Hacker's Paradise', Sales Up 101
Via Game|Life, a story on The Age site suggests that password crackers are really enjoying their PlayStation 3s ... and not because Ratchet is a great game. An NZ-based security researcher stated at a local security conference that the supercomputing power of the PS3 is being put to more nefarious uses than Folding@home. "Speed is important to "brute force" password cracking, which relies on guessing all possible combinations of the characters that make up the password. The accelerated technique means passwords protecting Office, PDF, ZIP and Lotus Notes ID files can be cracked with breathtaking speed. However, many other password types are handled more securely in software and remain unaffected by Breese's claimed speed increase." Sony does have some good news this week, though. Either the holiday season or a price drop here in the states has led to a massive sales increase.
Ratchet and Clank really is an amazing game (Score:5, Informative)
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R&C is actually one of the better platformers I have played in years, I would recommend it to any PS3 owner but I wouldn't necessarily recommend that someone buy a PS3 with just this g
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Re:Ratchet and Clank really is an amazing game (Score:5, Insightful)
I think, more than anything else, the factor behind the PS3's sales increase will be the fact that it is finally getting some games worth playing. For almost a year, Resistance: Fall of Man has been the only really top-notch title on the system, but this is definitely starting to change now.
Last time around, the PS2 won the sales war by on overwhelming margin despite being both the most expensive system and the least impressive technically. Why? The games. First of all, it had the key, core exclusive franchises that move systems like no other; Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid and Gran Turismo. However, this alone wouldn't have been enough. More important was the fact that the PS2 was effectively guaranteed to pick up any game that wasn't a 1-platform exclusive. Plenty of games didn't get an Xbox or a Cube release, despite appearing elsewhere, but despite the pain involved in the development, the PS2 got basically everything. If your family only plans to own one console and doesn't intend to change it for a good few years, this is a huge factor.
So far in this generation, no system has managed to establish a similar position on games. The PS3 is notoriously short of titles and most PS3s, my own included, are still mostly used as shiny and expensive PS2s. None of the franchises that helped Sony out so much last time have hit the machine yet. The Wii is an absolute desert for quality titles outside of a tiny number of Nintendo's own franchise games. In Japan, at least, its monthly sales lead has evaporated as the PS3 makes a fightback. The 360 is probably the best placed on games, due to its greater age, but it hardly has what I would call a commanding lead. MS have done a good job of attracting a more balanced line-up and, in Forza 2, have almost neutralised the advantage held by Sony with one of their "big" games (Gran Turismo), but they've still got a long way to go in some markets and in throwing off their image as the "fps" console.
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Why was parent modded off-topic? The game is mentioned in the summary and is probably one of the factors behind the big increase in PS3 sales. I've not picked up my copy yet (too many other things to finish off first - Persona 3, Mass Effect and Crysis at the top of the list), but it does look astoundingly good.
Consoles like text editors, OS's, and flavors of linux are very very very contentious. People enjoy self organizing into little tribes and tossing mods around. The GP was sort of raving without much significant content. Thus people modded him down. It wasn't that off topic and it was un-deserved.
So far in this generation, no system has managed to establish a similar position on games. The PS3 is notoriously short of titles and most PS3s, my own included, are still mostly used as shiny and expensive PS2s. None of the franchises that helped Sony out so much last time have hit the machine yet. The Wii is an absolute desert for quality titles outside of a tiny number of Nintendo's own franchise games. In Japan, at least, its monthly sales lead has evaporated as the PS3 makes a fightback. The 360 is probably the best placed on games, due to its greater age, but it hardly has what I would call a commanding lead. MS have done a good job of attracting a more balanced line-up and, in Forza 2, have almost neutralised the advantage held by Sony with one of their "big" games (Gran Turismo), but they've still got a long way to go in some markets and in throwing off their image as the "fps" console.
I'm about 50/50. Half the time I'm playing R&T, COD 4, or even Dynasty warriors: Gundam. The other half of the time I'm working my way through the backlog of ps2 games I bought and didn't play. There were just
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In Japan, at least, its monthly sales lead has evaporated as the PS3 makes a fightback.
You had me nodding until you got here.
Yeah, technically that's true. They went from ~65k+ per week, to ~35k+ per week. And the PS3 recently spiked up (from ~15k to ~55k) But its a very small myopic view of a much bigger picture.
To start, vgchartz.com (which you have to take with giant grain of salt mind you), is showing that the Wii sold some 640,000 units last week world wide. That, if true, is more than it acheived in
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Because it is offtopic. Ratchet and Clank being a good game has nothing to do with the PlayStation being a "Hacker's Paradise", even if Ratchet and Clank were mentioned in the article.
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I've not picked up my copy yet (too many other things to finish off first - Persona 3, Mass Effect and Crysis at the top of the list), but it does look astoundingly good.
So you basically admit you're part of the problem : PS2 game, XBox 360 game and PC game at highest priority, but you still haven't bought this PS3 game that was released before 2 of the games you cited. ...
It's telling because of what you say after that
I think, more than anything else, the factor behind the PS3's sales increase will be the fact that it is finally getting some games worth playing.
Uh, no! If PS3 owners do like you, it won't change anything at all. And the lot of good games that were released with poor sales, lead to think that a lot of PS3 owners are like you.
For almost a year, Resistance: Fall of Man has been the only really top-notch title on the system, but this is definitely starting to change now.
What you say should induce fear to Sony. There was several good games for
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Note that Nintendo gave concrete numbers, not ratios as compared to unknowns...
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Then, presumably, they'll ramp up production again, and lower the price.
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My theory had been that the PS3 would really take off as it got below $300, and that its PS2 compatibility (considering the huge volume of PS2's that are STILL being sold) would allow it to slingshot past the other consoles. Now that the geniuses at Sony are removing PS2 compa
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Wii Production (Score:2)
I'm not sure I buy that argument.
You don't need to buy it, you can verify it yourself.
The PS3 parts are a lot rarer and more difficult to fab than the Wii parts. If the PS3 is actually numerically outselling the Wii because of supply constraints, then Nintendo has some real problems.
Yet that is precisely what is happening. It's important to keep in mind that Nintendo is currently churning out 1.8 million Wiis per month. The PS2 might have sold more at its peak, but other than that, it's probably hard to find a console that sold similar quantities. It's also important to keep in mind that the Wii contains a custom slot-loading DVD drive, which can read Wii DVD games as well as the smaller Gamecube games; it contains an infrared c
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That's, of course, debatable. In consumer electronics, $300 is generally the barrier between "boutique" products and "I'll get one for Christmas" products. $200 is more the line between "I'll get one for Christmas" and "I want one so I'll go buy one now". It's all on a curve, though, so I don't know where the "mass" market line really is.
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In consumer electronics, $300 is generally the barrier between "boutique" products and "I'll get one for Christmas" products.
Yes, but Christmas sales alone are not enough for a console to win.
$200 is more the line between "I'll get one for Christmas" and "I want one so I'll go buy one now".
Yes, I think so, too.
It's all on a curve, though, so I don't know where the "mass" market line really is.
Well, in a perfect world, it would be a curve, but these are people making decisions. To most people, 200 US$ seems like a whole lot more than 199 US$, which is, I think, why consoles become mass-market items at 199 US$, but don't sell that great at or above 200 US$.
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The "m
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Sony didn't give numbers; Sony gave percentages. The article guessed at what the numbers would probably be based on indirect sources like NPD.
non-oblig FotC (Score:2)
Murray: That show was great for us! Fan club membership has tripled.
Bret: So that makes...[stops, thinks]...three?
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It is about using videogames for other things than playing games.
BTW, since you mention the Wii, I will feel free to point out it would never be used for anything other than playing games because it simply doesn't have the processing power to do anything else. It's still a lot of fun, but that's not the point.
The point is there is a readily available supply of supercomputing-class machines in stores all over the place. Now may be the right time to beef up your crypto
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Oh? [wiili.org]
I agree it's hardly a powerhouse, but it's got a nice little form factor and draws only a tiny amount of electricity. Plus, with the Internet channel, I already use it for things other than playing games.
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Dunno, we also use it to watch youtube movies on the web, check out the weather, and sometimes read news.
Massive increase (Score:5, Insightful)
Even with the price drop, they are still third in the US week to week. The fact that Uncharted, the PS3s best reviewed exclusive this year, is doing poorly just makes it more painful: It seems that people aren't even buying the good games. Not even 300k so far in the US for Ratchet & Clank?
I wish the best to Sony, but I don't think they have a prayer until their biggest names come out. Maybe Final Fantasy, Metal Gear and Gran Turismo can stop the bleeding.
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- The PS3 is a real nice console
- The PS3 runs Linux
- The Cell processor inside the PS3 is way cool
- We prefer to see Sony hurting Microsoft than the other way around
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Arguably, so is the Xenon. The Cell is perhaps better in some ways, but I don't think anything on the 360 has really yet taken advantage of all 6 cores either.
I really really really don't want to see anyone "win", because if they do, we lose. But Sony does need to do better. Given the media companies they own, not having movie download services from day 1 was just inexcusable. Do they even have it now?
I'll get a PS3 for the linux system when the framebuf
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That's the problem with the symmetric multi-core processors: they excel for server loads, but not so for gaming. The explicit asymmetric design of the Cell has processors tailored for game play (the Power units) and über-DSPs (the SPUs) for massively parallel logic. It also has an outstanding floating-point throughput no other processor in its
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Why is the Cell cool? Its just 8 processors cores with no direct memory access, and a large amount of unshared L1 cache each. Which is just a bigger version of what the RSP was on the N64. Its not innovative. I've programmed assembly since 6502, so its certainly fun, but when it comes to putting fun in a game, you'll get better, more productive end results using an interpreted scripting language (Quake, Gears, Bioshock...)
Why Sony shouldn't die (Score:2)
Because they did a few things right, such as making the PS3 code-free, and because they might be just as evil as Microsoft, but they're at least incompetent and thus a smaller threat.
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PS3 outsells xBox in EU (Score:2)
So maybe they won't "win", whatever that means, in the US, but they certainly aren't doing that badly elsewhere.
Bah, "Hacker" meaning "cracker" (Score:3, Insightful)
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Most Powerful and Open Console yet? (Score:1, Interesting)
At this point its mostly meme. I tried the Wii again last Thanksgiving. Yeah both my nephews have one, but they also had a Gamecube so to them it was the logical extension, but I just don't see what all the hype was about.
The controls were sloppy and trying to use the Wii-mote as a pointer was painful as heck.
So basically this article says people are evil? (Score:1)
Re:Most Powerful and Open Console yet? (Score:5, Funny)
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The more rational, logical conclusion is that, contrary to the marketing drivel, "most powerful" means fuckall in terms of actual gaming enjoyment.
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Yes, but as the article points out, processing power is everything for cracking passwords.
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Speaking from experience, the controls on Wii Sports Tennis, Mario Strikers Charged, Zelda, Madden, Resident Evil, and Metroid Prime 3 are actually very tight (i.e. not sloppy at all). Using the pointer to shoot in Resident Evil, Metroid Prime 3, and to stop Mega Strike
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You're right that selling a system that includes high-end technologies like Blu-Ray and the Cell processor does not make Sony arrogant, but it does make the PS3 expensive [slashdot.org]. I
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I have my Wii set to 480p and it looks great on my 42" plasma. Are you using the standard composite cables or did you buy the neccessary component cables?
The TV also makes a big difference. My friend and I both have a PS3 and we both have 42" plasmas, he bought an LG for $1500 and I bought a Pioneer for $3000, and the difference in picture quality is night and day.
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You would absolutely not accept this level of animation on an Xbox or PS3 title, not because they're so much more powerful, but because your expecta
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The thing is, developers (especially 3rd-party developers) will find ways to turn out crap no matter what the "expectations". This applies even to graphics -- the PS3 is powerful, but certainly not powerful enough to deliver jaw-dropping results without a lot of work from the developers.
From what I've seen of the demo games on the PS3, thi
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it doesn't cripple the console, but it would have been nice..
PS3 == Good Linux Box (Score:2)
I think most people expected that Sony was going to release a game console, not a platform for Bluray movies that doubles as a Linux box.
Sony made some critical mistakes when they rushed the PS3 to market. It looks like they tried to jam too much stuff into it and couldn't work out all the issues before release.
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That said, when I'm stumped while coding and want to take a break, I'll be in the living room with the Wii.
"Sony does have some good news this week" (Score:4, Funny)
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No.... and while they may not be marketing geniuses either they did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Botnets for Cracking Maybe? (Score:2)
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Of course, those who have botnets usually don't pay for their CPU resources...
Re:Botnets for Cracking Maybe? (Score:4, Interesting)
The above author made a very valid point =)
However, in the initial "grand scheme of things", Sony wanted Cell processors in every piece of consumer electronics to create a sort-of distributed computing model within your home. More processors and more potential entry points. Who knows if that'll still happen.
In any case, the point I've been trying to make is that vector processors can do crypto very well. The Cell's SPUs are just a very good example of that. Who knows what other vector processors could be used..
I want to apologise for the lack of technical detail available. I absolutely hate it when I read a news piece and can't find further info. The media piece came out of a pre-release talk I did at the Kiwicon security conference.
The full presentation will (hopefully) be done at some international security conference. All technical information and source code will be made available then. No software patents are involved
Nick Breese's Presentation (Score:3, Interesting)
Price cut?! (Score:2)
Sony asserts that the surge in sales is largely due to the price cut...
Price cut? But that's why I got my second job!
New PS3 Commericials (Score:2)
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I have no idea what good exclusive games are out yet for the PS3 (if there is any)
And this is exactly why the commercials were stupid. I think I saw a couple flashes of Ratchet & Clank in the spots, but honestly I have no clue what games they were even trying to advertise to me. Basically the ad said to me, as a gamer who loosely follows the releases on platforms I don't own, "We don't have any specific games worth showing to you, but the PS3 sure is awesome. You should get one." To which I say, "Screw that."
--Jeremy
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"We don't have any specific games worth showing to you, but the PS3 sure is awesome."
I would argue that's why the commercials are good. They make the system seem really cool even though there aren't really any interesting games out for it yet. I think you confuse me for a PS3 shill or something. I'm obviously not interested in the console, but you have to admit it was really cool-looking commercial. The special effects, the choice of music, and the transitions between game footage and the PS3 CGI was really well done. Maybe it's just because I'm a graphics programmer and I'm really in
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I sense a theme.. (Score:1)
PS3 beat 360 this week (Score:1)
In light of all the past comments which ask, "Why does Japan love the PS3 do much?" I have to ask: "Why does America love the 360 so much?" :-)
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