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Police swoop on 'Hacker of the Year' 223

Posted by CmdrTaco from the according-to-who-exactly dept.
AcidAUS writes "The Swedish hacker, Dan Egerstad, who perpetrated the so-called hack of the year, has been arrested in a dramatic raid on his apartment, during which he was taken in for questioning and several of his computers confiscated. Egerstad broke into the global communications network used by embassies around the world in August and gained access to 1000 sensitive email accounts."
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  • "Broke in?" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Evangelion ( 2145 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:03AM (#21364071) Homepage

    I thought he just listened in on Tor traffic.

  • Well, that's what you get (Score:5, Funny)

    by Lally Singh ( 3427 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:04AM (#21364075) Journal
    90% of what makes a really good hack hard is STFU'ing about it.

    • Re:Well, that's what you get (Score:5, Insightful)

      by luvirini ( 753157 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:09AM (#21364145)
      That is the point authohorities all over the world seem to be making... Do not report Security flaws.

      If you notice a security flaw and are quiet about it nothing happens.

      If you notice a securoty flaw and report it you get charged for hacking.

      Guess what happens in future...

      • Re:Well, that's what you get (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Praedon ( 707326 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:14AM (#21364219) Journal
        There was an article a while back on slashdot, that mentioned about this guy who found a way to duplicate boarding passes for an airline... before he published the information to the internet, he contacted his congressman, which did nothing about it.. but then published how to do it, and the template to the internet. He was then considered a "terrorist" and I have heard nothing more about him.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by olddotter ( 638430 )
          So your saying his government is made up of morons?

          • Re:Well, that's what you get (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:25AM (#21364411)
            No, but of people with a one track mind. He who knows how to break the law breaks the law, since if he didn't mean to break the law, he wouldn't know how to do it. He who finds a security hole must have been looking for a security hole, and the only reason to look for a security hole is to use it.

            Another train of thought follows the logic that what is forbidden does not exist. And if it exists, simply crack down with utmost force on it, and it ceases to exist.

            The core fallacy about it is that this doesn't mean crimes don't happen, it just means you won't hear about them. Which is, for the statistic, identical. It's a bit like closing your eyes and pretending that since you can't see the problem it doesn't exist.

            • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

              by Jarjarthejedi ( 996957 )
              *Sticks fingers in ears and closes eyes*

              LALALALALA I can't hear you!
              • That's pretty much it, with the twist that this also sticks fingers into your voters' ears, which is more important for a politician. Voters don't hear about it, so they deem it a non-issue, so you don't have to address it.
            • that's why police can quite easily get away with beating people at free parties, because free parties don't exist, they don't even make the news.
            • I call that the ostrich syndrome. Although even ostriches are not really that stupid.

            • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

              by MikeDirnt69 ( 1105185 )
              He who finds a security hole must have been looking for a security hole, and the only reason to look for a security hole is to use it.

              Yes, he was searching for it. But your assumption that he intent to use it is not correct. Hackers are not always made by "pure evil", they can do good stuff if they want to. It's fun to find breaches and it makes you fell good when you report it and is recognized.

              I'm not saying that the guy is innocent, just telling the possibilities.
              • I presented you the train of thought of a politician. If I was thinking that, it would be time to turn myself in for drug manufacturing and bomb building. I have done neither, but I know how to do it.

            • Another train of thought follows the logic that what is forbidden does not exist. And if it exists, simply crack down with utmost force on it, and it ceases to exist.

              The first mistake was arresting him.
              The second mistake was letting him free http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect [wikipedia.org].
              Just like CIA secret prisons; if you let people out of them, then they won't be secret for too long. Like in this case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri [wikipedia.org].

              If in fact nothing arises from this then the government(s) will just end up looking more stupid than it / they already were for ignoring his warnings in the first place.

              The sad thing is that eavesdropping on Tor exit nodes i

          • Re:Well, that's what you get (Score:4, Insightful)

            by Billosaur ( 927319 ) * <wgrother@optonline. n e t> on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:27AM (#21364449) Journal

            No more than anybody else's... listen, the guy just exposed a major security flaw that has an impact on diplomatic communications all over the world. On the one hand, the guy's doing a job no one else thought to do, and to let governments know that their secrets are easily tapped. Governments should be funding his work, to see if he can come up with a solution to the problem. But being governments, they're a bit paranoid (even the Swedes) and heavy-handed. This guys knows about a security vulnerability -- what else does he know? So they drag him in and give him the "treatment".

            • Not the "treatment"?!!!? :o Hopefully thats a sauna, then a government security job offer with a company Volvo?

            • Re:Well, that's what you get (Score:5, Funny)

              by boyfaceddog ( 788041 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @11:44AM (#21365707) Journal
              You can't really blame the governments for their response. Most agencies are only authorized to punish citizens, not ask them for help.

              Remember the Air Force Axiom; when the only tool you have is a multi-warhead thermo-nuclear ICBM, all your problems look like the Soviets invading West Germany.

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by hiryuu ( 125210 )
                Remember the Air Force Axiom; when the only tool you have is a multi-warhead thermo-nuclear ICBM, all your problems look like the Soviets invading West Germany.

                I love that - is it an original paraphrasing, or something you'd heard somewhere? I'd like to make sure I attribute it properly should I happen to use it. :)
            • So, all these diplomats sharing a "party line" of sorts... hmmm, makes me think they all (or many of them) get together to plan the next famine, war, coalition, etc. I mean, why do diplomats get immunity from a lot of potential types of prosecution for which you and I could be locked up forever? They can enter countries and not be fingerprinted, transport dubious items under diplomatic seal, employ couriers to do the more dangerous conveyance work, and you and I can't f*scking take a non-full 4oz or 3oz bot
          • Worse...

            Morons with big guns.

        • Re:Well, that's what you get (Score:5, Interesting)

          by bytesex ( 112972 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:29AM (#21364489) Homepage
          A bit too paranoid. He was told to shut up about it, but nothing happened to him. It was a journalist who'd found out that if you made two boarding passes at home, one in his own name (not conspicuous) and one in the name of Osama Bin Laden, and you switched bottom barcodes on them, you could get Osama on the plane. Or something. Apparently, the two barcodes are read at different stations, and only the first one checks for identity (but not the no fly list), and the second one checks for the no fly list (but not the identity). Or something.
        • That's because he printed himself up a boarding pass to a non extradition country before publishing to the net.

      • Re:Well, that's what you get (Score:5, Funny)

        by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:22AM (#21364361)
        And what did we learn today? Don't report a security hole, sell it to Russia.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by ozbird ( 127571 )
        Do not exploit security flaws. There, fixed it for you.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Praedon ( 707326 )
      I completely agree... some of the best hacks in the world happened without anyone ever even knowing except the person who did it... He just had the balls to take credit for it... I don't know if in Sweden they brand hackers terrorists or not, like in the U.S., but if they do, he could be in a lot of trouble.

      I have a prediction about this guy... what's going to happen in about 5-10 years, is he will end up writing articles like other hacker sellouts that we know.

      • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

        by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:17AM (#21364275)
        Comment removed based on user account deletion
        • "hacking is not a way to support a family - and it will always be a hobby. As it should be, no?"

          Oh, really? Tell that to Leatherface. But, I'm not sure if it was also a hobby to him... After all, the "Family Secret" ingredients in the chili won them a lot of awards in Texas. I wonder what's in K.C. Master Pieces...

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by dave562 ( 969951 )
          Growing up is selling out, duh! Hackers being accused of selling out is like bands being accused of selling out. For every one hacker/band out there that makes it, there are thousands of others that wish they had the talent/skill/luck to do the same thing. The REAL sell outs go and work for the NSA and various other agencies and companies that you never hear about. The sloppy ones get caught and make some money off of their brief notoriety.
      • So wanting to eat and pay bills is selling out?

        Is the only way to "keep it real" is to starve out on the streets because you're homeless?
    • First rule of true hacking... You don't talk about Hacking! Second rule of Hacking... YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT HACKING!

      That's why people just assume Crackers are Hackers... Crackers talk, Hackers know better...

  • It was just tor eavesdropping! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sanermind ( 512885 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:07AM (#21364113)
    All he did was run a tor exit node, and observe the outgoing traffic, a known possibility when using tor. Not only is there the disclaimer "This is experimental software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity" evertime you run tor, but this vector of potential attack is so bloody obvious that anyone not aware of would be a bloody idiot not to use additional encryption for accessing sensitive information on the other end, and rely on tor only for obfuscation of the fact that the route originates from them.
    • The guy did not 'break into' anything - he dumped passwords as they flowed through HIS tor exit node. Tor obfuscates the origin, it does not encrypt the traffic for you. The summary is very, very wrong.

    • Re:It was just tor eavesdropping! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by KokorHekkus ( 986906 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:50AM (#21364841)

      All he did was run a tor exit node, and observe the outgoing traffic...
      And that could very likely be construed as eavesdropping on electronic communications. The Swedish penal code, 4th chapter, 8th paragraph, says:

      8 Den som olovligen bereder sig tillgång till ett meddelande, som ett post- eller telebefordringsföretag förmedlar som postförsändelse eller telemeddelande, döms för brytande av post- eller telehemlighet till böter eller fängelse i högst två år.
      Which translates to approximatly:

      The person who gains access to a message, that a postal or telecommunications company transmits, as a postal or telecommuncations message, is to be sentened for exposure of postal or telecommuncations secret to fines or a maximum of two years prison.
      Swedish laws are a bit laconic so that's the full text. I'm not really surprised that the police decide to start an investigation since what he did could be legal - it's not a clear cut case. Obviously the message were not ment for him and he didn't come by them by accident. Word to the wise: better read up on the laws where are if you're going to pull something like this. If it's in the gray area be prepared to investigated.
      • One question though - I don't know a great deal about the Tor technology, but if he was running an exit node (i.e. he was the end point for the communication), then isn't he himself effectively acting as the telecommunications company? If people didn't provide exit nodes Tor wouldn't work, so in this case he was an essential part of the connection to the internet.

        As far as I know, telecoms are allowed to pry into their traffic as it's considered public domain and people are advised to encrypt anything they

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by KokorHekkus ( 986906 )
          As I said this is a gray area. Maybe he could argue that but on the other hand I'd be surprised if telcoms are allowed to snoop as they wish in Sweden but they certainly can't go around repeating my communcations at will. So the bigger problem could be that he not only did snoop but he also disseminated it publicly. Without being a legal scholar I'd say it's fairly obvious that the intent with the law was to preserve the privacy of the commmuncating parties messages.

          Maybe it would be better to argue that
    • If your ISP started reading all of your unencrypted email, would you think it's OK because "it was just eavesdropping?"

  • I don't know why is he surprised (Score:3, Insightful)

    by someone1234 ( 830754 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:10AM (#21364149)
    He fucked the police states, so the police bit back.
    He is lucky not to be in russia or china or cold war US so he got no bullet in his head.

  • Access credentials were sent through his node! (Score:5, Informative)

    by JackHoffman ( 1033824 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:15AM (#21364245)
    broke into the global communications network used by embassies around the world in August and gained access to 1000 sensitive email accounts

    He acquired access credentials to 1000 email accounts used by embassies. He did so by becoming an exit node of the TOR anonymizing network and reading the unencrypted exit traffic. That may have been in violation of the law, but does not constitute "breaking into the global communications network used by embassies".

  • What a moron! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Pedrito ( 94783 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:16AM (#21364255)
    Look, I don't know if the guy actually broke any laws. It sounds like he might have, but maybe not. On the other hand, intentionally trying to fuck with the police after they arrested him is plain stupid. It doesn't buy you anything except bad will. It's not like the people interrogating him are the ones that made the decision to arrest him. You get pulled in by the police, if you're really not guilty, the only smart thing to do is cooperate. Creating that kind of bad will and then complaining that you might not get your computer equipment back for years, well what do you expect? Shit on people and expect them to shit on you back.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by nfractal ( 1039722 )
      Well, its already been discussed here pretty much at length and as for taking credit and messing with the police.. i believe he's being plain stupid. Taking credit for a hack and reporting it does NOT mean publishing the entire list of access credentials online. Could have just reported and left to fend for themselves. Dramatic is it ? well he was the one looking for drama in the first place. nf

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      You get pulled in by the police, if you're really not guilty, the only smart thing to do is cooperate.

      I disagree with that. Get an independent lawyer FIRST! They could be just looking for a goat, and you were fingered. Police generally know so little about computers, and would only look at a geek as a sub-species. The more you talk, the more it can be twisted.

      RIAA for example. Your PC could have been hijacked. No mater what you say you will be viewed as guilty unless you're lucky enough there is eno

    • On the other hand, intentionally trying to fuck with the police after they arrested him is plain stupid. It doesn't buy you anything except bad will. It's not like the people interrogating him are the ones that made the decision to arrest him. You get pulled in by the police, if you're really not guilty, the only smart thing to do is cooperate.

      Actually, no. There must be limits to the criminal acts of the police one should feel compelled to show good will with. He may be a fool because he feels confident

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by UncleTogie ( 1004853 ) *

      Creating that kind of bad will and then complaining that you might not get your computer equipment back for years, well what do you expect?

      He might not get the PC back working at ALL.

      A client of mine had to give a medical server over for discovery in an insurance case. After much "analysis" {which turned out to be a bunch of guessing} they returned the box 6 months later... minus hard drive. To this day, neither the insurance company nor "expert witness" will admit that they lost 10 years of patient info and charting.

      Stories like this kill me. If we had a better-informed society, the call wouldn't be "get the hacker!"... It'd be "get the i

    • > You get pulled in by the police, if you're really not guilty, the only smart thing to do is cooperate.

      That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard this week, and I've been watching youtube links from reddit since Tuesday.

      You get pulled in by the police, it doesn't matter if you're "guilty" or not. Their job is to bust your ass, or use you as a tool to bust someone else's ass. They live to fuck people up. That's all there is to it. If you think fucking people up is smart, cooperate. I'll enjoy the s

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Tom ( 822 )

      You get pulled in by the police, if you're really not guilty, the only smart thing to do is cooperate.
      Because we all know that crime statistics are made up of "# of truths uncovered" and "# of innocents set free quickly" and not bullshit like "# of people jailed" and "ratio of convictions".

      The smart thing to do is to appear cooperative, and make sure you don't say a word you don't have to until your lawyer is there.
    • Saying anything to cops without a lawyer at your side is generally stupid, even when you honestly believe you have not done anything wrong. It is not smart thing to "cooperate." I am a US lawyer, and I am basing this comment on US rights/laws; I don't know the laws in Sweden but I suspect the concepts are similar. In the (US) criminal system you can almost never to forced to answer any interrogation questions, other than your identity. Virtually every lawyer would advise not to volunteer answers that m

    • if you're really not guilty, the only smart thing to do is cooperate.
      you obviously haven't watched enough Law & Order. If you're innocent and don't want to spend years in jail, you demand a lawyer immediately before talking to the police. With a good lawyer, you won't fall into any of their traps and won't be held more than a day or two. Of course if you fall for any of their traps, you'll be sent up the river before you even know what happened.

  • "Broke into" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dr_d_19 ( 206418 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:20AM (#21364323)
    Dan didn't break into anything. He simply set up a Tor node and watches the traffic passing. Most likely the passwords he sniffed out were not used by Embassy officials but by criminal elements who were using Tor to avoid being caught when using stolen credentials.

    Also, he notified the involved embassies weeks before publishing the material.

    I not saying it was a stupid move (I think it was) but the summary makes him look like a criminal which he is most certainly not. The Swedish police does not understand IT and obviously does whatever foreign countries tell them to do since our political leaders lacks spines.

  • Just what is he? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Billosaur ( 927319 ) * <wgrother@optonline. n e t> on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:21AM (#21364353) Journal

    From the article, paragraph 1:

    The Swedish hacker who perpetrated the so-called hack of the year...

    From the article, paragraph 2:

    Dan Egerstad, a security consultant, intercepted data carried over a global communications network...

    Emphasis mine. So what is he? If he's a hacker, the raid is just desserts. If he's a security consultant, and he's exposed this flaw, he's being persecuted. Frankly, I don't know what he really is, but it seems like the press is schizophrenic on this issue. It just goes to show that when it comes to technology, the mainstream press is a bit low on clarity and high on sensationalism.

    • Re:Just what is he? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by bcattwoo ( 737354 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:34AM (#21364579)

      Emphasis mine. So what is he? If he's a hacker, the raid is just desserts. If he's a security consultant, and he's exposed this flaw, he's being persecuted. Frankly, I don't know what he really is, but it seems like the press is schizophrenic on this issue. It just goes to show that when it comes to technology, the mainstream press is a bit low on clarity and high on sensationalism.

      If a locksmith breaks into your home by picking your locks, he is still a burglar.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Billosaur ( 927319 ) *

      I don't usually reply to my own stuff, but here's Wired's report on the raid and what Egerstad actually did [wired.com].

      • Neat article. This really stood out to me:

        As I mentioned in August, a reporter for the Indian Express newspaper was able to access the e-mail account belonging to India's ambassador to China and obtained the transcript of a meeting between the embassador and the Chinese foreign minister.

        So let's get this straight -- you're arresting the dude who sniffed information that legit clients CHOSE to send to him via Tor, and this "journalist" gets a free pass? That's about the MOST illegal thing I can possibly imagine. Plus, he's probably violating a lot MORE laws since its his own ambassador (countries tend to get pissy about stolen confidential diplomatic information). Amazing.

  • Dramatic Raid indeed (Score:5, Informative)

    by Zedrick ( 764028 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:31AM (#21364509)
    I live a few hundred meters from his home, and was woken up that day, not by my useless alarm clock, but by sirens from 7 or 8 police cars heading in the direction of his apartment. From the TFA it seems like the were a bit more discreet when moving in on him, so I guess this was some kind of show of force to intimidate him, and his neighbours. Wouldn't surprise me, considering how the TPB-raid was done.
  • looks like those illegally acting cops just wanted a cheap way of getting their sweaty hands on Egerstad's code. It would be so cool to be able to spy on all those foreign guys, eh?

  • A dramatic raid... (Score:5, Funny)

    by east coast ( 590680 ) on Thursday November 15, 2007 @10:48AM (#21364803)
    [knock at the door]

    Police: Open this door! Thou art a felon wanted for many counts of villainy against the citizenry of this fair nation!

    Dan: How now!? Am I to be jailed? What can I do but beg for the mercy of The Crown?!?!

    [Dan weeps loudly]
    [Viola music plays a sad song in the background]
    [Dan slumps over a b0x3n]

    Dan: I am ruined. Farewell, my tools of crime, for you are sure to meet a worse fate than I in our common traitorous endeavors.

    [The door breaks in, an officer enters the room and grabs Dan by the shoulder with nightstick in hand]
    [Fades to black]

    Oh, you mean a different kind of dramatic. Sorry, sorry.
  • People are always looking to the government to protect them. Who protects you from the government? My biggest fear in my home isn't some criminal breaking in, it's a stupid government raid that possibly gets me or one of my family members killed, or all the programs I've written in my entire life being confiscated. Perhaps some would say I shouldn't be afraid because I'm not hacking or doing anything (that I know of) that's illegal, but I am a programmer, so nevertheless it hangs over my head. I hate th
  • These kind of Hacks should still be committed to show security flaws or simply when people implement things incorrectly which leads to a flaw in the security. The thing is when the evidence is collected that a security hole exists the Black Hat should anonymously submit that evidence to thousands of websites simultaneously. And they should use Tor. Ya it doesn't prevent traffic from being intercepted but they still can't figure out where it came from. That way the government doesn't have anywhere to direct

  • This was NOT a hack. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by miffo.swe ( 547642 ) <daniel.hedblom@NOSPAm.gmail.com> on Thursday November 15, 2007 @02:05PM (#21368305) Homepage Journal
    This guy is a very good security consultant that has been around for a while. This is not the first leak he has discovered and tried to warn people, Dan discovered that his home DSL was going slow and started sniffing out the traffic from his ISP. He quickly discovered that the ISP sent him traffic from about 4000 other customers on 16 different subnets! He could see everything on the network. This very time he had setup a tor link and started sniffing out the traffic, just as NSA does in the US on their large tor links. What he found was countless passwords and other sensitive stuff floating around. He found large amounts of usernames and password floating by all the time. No doubt this was from a hacker/foreign security intelligence that used tor for anynomity. The fact that most passwords was from governments like Iran, Russia and other countries not in the US "group" suggests this was US spying in progress. The fact that Swedish "Säpo" (intelligence is not the right word for theese people) was pressured into action against something thats not a crime at all in sweden also makes one wonders what is going on. It seems people are dissatisfied that this leak was made public. I doubt the people being hacked was miffed at Dan for showing them that someone was spying on them. Now that they know and secure their communications, maybe with stringent encryption and backdoor free open source, i do now one country that will be angry.
  • It is politically correct to not cause a problem, ignorance is bliss.

    It is criminal/troublesome to report problems, but ignorance is bliss and politically correct.

    No faults/problems found/reported in a politically correct blissful world means there is not a problem.

    A world without problems is proof of safety/security and politically marketable to public bliss.

    When a bridge collapses, a city gets drowned, large buildings collapse ... is it due to bliss or problems?

    Send all problem reporters to jail, then we

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