Microsoft Spending $120M To Look Smaller 158
Ant writes "Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that Microsoft Corp. will spend $120 million a year on an advertising campaign to fight its image as "a huge American company." That sound you heard while reading the article is my head exploding.
Microsoft - small? (Score:5, Funny)
Wedding night
"Oh, so that's why they call it Microsoft".
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Re:Microsoft - small? (Score:2)
As an aside, I like the "occupation: relative" part in her bio.
Small? (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh wait, it's just for OUTSIDE the US.
What do they think? That the foreigners are easy to fool?
In any case, anything Microsoft does to burn its cash uselessly has got to be good, somehow.
Re:Small? (Score:3, Interesting)
What do they think? That the foreigners are easy to fool?
Judging from TFA, the title was misleading. They want to change the "huge American company" image, but with a "huge global company" - hence those whose perception has to be
Next ad campaign: Hardship for Bill Gates. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Next ad campaign: Hardship for Bill Gates. (Score:4, Funny)
Why not? The poor lad could use new glasses or a new haircut for sure.
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Krazy Kat [ignatzmouse.net]
Re:Next ad campaign: Hardship for Bill Gates. (Score:2)
OH well back to reality, yet another campaign to tell the world how good and fair and honest and trustworthy the executives at microsoft are (well at least the major shareholding executives).
Microsoft could likely save a huge amount of money by sending those
Re:Small? (Score:2)
Re:Small? (Score:2)
It is still $150mill in advertising. I think you are a fool to say that advertising is just uselessly burning cash. You might not like the theme of the commercials, but it does make sense. The US isn't popular in many places in the World, and right now MS is seen as a big US company. Helping them helps the US.
"What do they think? That the foreigners are easy to fool?"
Anyone in the advertising industry knows
Re:Smoke and noise (Score:2)
What, a bowel movement? No, they aren't a technology company, they are just a software company. A "movement," to me, implies some kind of grass-roots organization, which is plainly not true WRT MS. So I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
Oh brother (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh brother (Score:5, Funny)
Been there, done that (Score:5, Insightful)
Same Size Giants, one Fake. (Score:2)
Both companies have market capitalizations of about $250 billion. Walmart [64.233.179.104], Microsoft [investopedia.com]. The microsoft article also shows that IBM has a market capitalization of about $60 billion. Realize, however, that market capitalization is only a measure of estimated company earning power not actual worth. People have insane expectations for Microsoft's continued earning power in
In other news, (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In other news, (Score:1)
Re:In other news, (Score:1)
Re:In other news, (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:In other news, (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:In other news, (Score:2)
Alleged terrorists. I don't think any of the people in that gulag in Cuba have been so much as charged with an offence, let alone gone before a trial with judge and jury and public presentation of evidence.
So: to lose all your rights, all it takes is for you to be accused of terrorism. Some of us think that a country where accusation is considered equivalent to proof is, well... a tyranny. YMMV.
Slashdot 2007 (Score:5, Funny)
This is only possible in the US. Err... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:This is only possible in the US. Err... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This is only possible in the US. Err... (Score:2)
Re:This is only possible in the US. Err... (Score:2)
Re:This is only possible in the US. Err... (Score:2)
(Canadian, and I figure from your
Re:This is only possible in the US. Err... (Score:2)
DUH! If it were a British company, they wouldn't need to spend money to not look American.
LK
Incredible (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Incredible (Score:4, Informative)
Ummm... no. Microsoft has something like 50,000 employees. That won't even fill many major sports arenas and concert venues. Unless you live in Wyoming, it really doesn't compare to the population of a "real" city.
Re:Incredible (Score:2)
Up here in the greater Seattle area, several cities have gone from being
Re:Incredible (Score:2)
50,000 people would actually fill several large concert venues. They tend to seat 10 - 20 thousand.
Re:Incredible (Score:3, Interesting)
According to a September BusinessWeek Article, MS has ~60000 employees.
This company is 1/3 the size of the 100th largest city in the country.
Microsoft also has more people than 70% of the counties in the US. The average county population is ~90000, microsoft is 2/3 of that.
According to Forbes, MS is the 47th largest company
Re:Incredible (Score:2)
Nope, as pointed by some poster above, mere $46bln can change that easily
Re:Incredible (Score:2)
Re:Incredible (Score:2)
Re:Incredible (Score:3, Funny)
However, probably for the sake of convenience, Microsoft does hold company meetings in major sports arenas [microsoft.com] from time to time.
Re:Incredible (Score:2)
One in three Americans live in one of the 600 cities of more than 50,000 people.
Three in four Americans live in a metropolitan area of more than 50,000 people.
I'll grant there are broad empty spaces in America where no-one lives. There are counties in Wyoming with fewer people than the capacity crowd at your neighborhood McDon
That much? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:That much? (Score:2, Funny)
if you've never watched small-town television you won't know what i mean.. but small town commercials on tv are just awful. a six-year-old with a handicam can run circles around some of those schmucks.
maybe they should change their name to "unca' bill's software shack"
So... (Score:5, Funny)
It is small(ish) (Score:2)
Steve Jobs only purpose on earth is to draw attention from Bill Gate's own stupendous reality distortion field.
Re:It is small(ish) (Score:1)
You say that Microsoft is smaller than Dell...
But in the news recently it came out that Apple is bigger than Dell...
So then that makes Apple bigger than Microsoft.
STOP THE PRESSES!!! We've got a live one!!!
Re:It is small(ish) (Score:1)
Re:It is small(ish) (Score:4, Informative)
The market cap (taken from http://finance.yahoo.com/ [yahoo.com] of listed companies as of January 23, 2005:
Microsoft: 280.49B
Wal-Mart: 188.40B
Apple: 65.46B
Dell: 71.12B
Re:It is small(ish) (Score:2)
After Vista (Score:3, Funny)
No! Don't you see? (Score:5, Funny)
Microsoft, that large Canadian company :)
Re:No! Don't you see? (Score:2)
'I'm lovin' it'
Re:No! Don't you see? (Score:2)
Or simply:
I fuck it.
Re:No! Don't you see? (Score:2)
Fucking Microsoft!
Re:No! Don't you see? (Score:2)
Re:No! Don't you see? (Score:2)
Re:No! Don't you see? (Score:2)
Re:No! Don't you see? (Score:2)
Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:1)
Not that I've ever worked there or anything...
Re:Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:2)
They also have 10,000 open positions (fulltime, contract & intern)
Re:Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:2)
Re:Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:2)
Re:Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:2)
Re:Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:2)
I haven't named it at all, actually. It's called Headtrax.
2) the last time I looked I swear the count was right around 65k
The count for employees only is 66,647. The count for Vendors is 37,475. The count for "other" (temps, interns, etc) is 7,556. This brings the total to more than 110,000. (actually, more than 111,000)
Re:Microsoft? A huge company?! whadda ya mean?! (Score:2)
MSN (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:MSN (Score:2)
Aside from Wal-Mart, the MPAA/RIAA (and IBM, but only really to techies), Microsoft is practically synonymous with big business. News stories about them spending huge multiples of what the average person earns in a lifetime, every year, to try to give the opposite impression... well, it isn't really going to work...
Re:MSN (Score:2)
Please note that the M of MSN is at the beginning. This shows that sometimes Microsoft is at the beginning of a joke.
Who's idea was this? (Score:2, Insightful)
So MS got the Temp to dream up another PR campaign to burn up some money for them? I mean, I don't see who they are going to convince with this, nor what they have to gain by doing it. Personally I either want my computing needs served either by guys like me doing it for the sheer fun and love of it, or by some large corp that needs customers (y'know, for profits...). And even at that, I'd take the like-minded community any day.
Still, I guess a little disinformation^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H marketing never hurt an
They'll succeed... (Score:1)
Let me get this right. . . (Score:1)
Article Text (Score:5, Funny)
The campaign, using subway posters, blogs, and airplane banners, will portray Ballmer engaging in everday, blue collar activities like drinking with his buddies, bowling, playing softball, and doing the laundry. Pleasantville actor William H. Macy has been hired to portray Steve Ballmer's best friend.
"A lot of people see me as some kind of rage-filled bully. And I'm not like that," Ballmer said while emphatically pounding his desk.
"I took the job because Steve said he would 'fucking kill' me if I didn't. I knew he meant business when he threw a chair at me," said Macy in an interview.
In one ad, Ballmer bowls a strike, then turns around and high-fives Macy. He then proceeds to scream and and dance himself into a sweaty frenzy with blood vessels popping out of his reddened forehead, finally calming down enough to hoarsely shout, "I love bowling! Yeah!"
Reactions to the ads have been mixed. Many have commented that Macy seems in danger of being crushed by Ballmer, and that Ballmer's jokes come off as threatening and unfunny. The ads have been showing in select US markets, and are expected to go national in time for Windows Vista, the next version of Microsoft Windows, to ship.
Re:Article Text (Score:2)
Re:Article Text (Score:2)
CUPERTINO, CA - Steve Jobs, who challenges that assertion, ...
NEW YORK - Today Lorne Micheals issued a press release ...
Well, you know ... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Microsoft Spending $120M To Look Less American (Score:1, Insightful)
From the original news story:
The campaign, using television, print and the Internet, highlights Microsoft's education and economic development projects in 32 countries, including France and Taiwan, according to group advertising manager Mike Lucero.
"We are often perceived as a huge American company," Lucero said Friday in an interview.
"We wanted to be very specific about what we are doing in each cou
Non Sequitur (Score:2, Redundant)
Showing the same thing in different countries is "getting local"? Eh?
*head explodes*
what a rip off (Score:1)
suckers
Kirstie Alley (Score:2, Funny)
Suddenly (Score:1)
Who wants to buy a candy from Beelzebub?
I just don't undersand the issue (Score:1)
Because they aren't just an American company. They are a huge company in every country they are in.
Oblig. Dilbert Reference (Score:4, Funny)
The Good News: At the rate we're going, we're going to smaller than any of them!
Either that or you guys can't read... (Score:3, Insightful)
Either that or you guys just can't read. Clearly what the article says is just that Microsoft will advertise in other countries with the objective of seeming more like an international company...
Incorrect Title, RTFA please (Score:5, Informative)
Kudos to those who have posted similar replies. Hopefully people will read these enough to get the message. Or perhaps this just proves that most of the /. community would rather read what they want than what is on the page.
Re:Incorrect Title, RTFA please (Score:2)
I mean the ads are are airing in the US right now. Are MS really going to try and appear less american to a US audience? Makss about as much sense as trying to portray themselves as smaller, I suppose...
Re:Incorrect Title, RTFA please (Score:3, Interesting)
Just one third? That's the EU, Japan, Canada... What's going on? Do American businesses upgrade more frequently? Do European servers all run that commie OS from Finland?
If the Rest of the World only adds up to half of what Microsoft makes from Americans, then surely their monopoly in most places isn't worth a hill of beans. That's not what I'm seeing.
Re:Incorrect Title, RTFA please (Score:2)
All they'd have to do to appear less American-centered is take a camera and walk down a hallway showing the names on peoples' office doors. Of course, a few commercia
First change... (Score:3, Insightful)
Another thing (Score:2, Funny)
It's a replacement campaign (Score:5, Funny)
I guess everyone missed the news a month ago:
Redmond WA (AP) Microsoft announced that it would drop its current overseas advertising slogan "Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated." after a successful trademark infringement suit filed by The Borg, who claimed that Microsoft's use of their trademarked phrase was ruining their brand, and subjecting them to ridicule by interstellar civilizations.
The Borg have Sorry Lawyers. (Score:2)
It will be replaced by, "You are our passion, Let us help you reach your potential," which means the same thing but the Borg forgot to trademark it.
An impressed human Borg lawyer said, "Microsoft lawyers have taken trade mark, copyright and patent law to the next level. We can't wait to add them to the collective. In trademark they claim entire co
hypocrisy (Score:3, Interesting)
Give Me The $120 Million (Score:2)
And I'll make it a true statement that Microsoft is no longer a "huge" American company.
They'll be a LOT smaller when I get through with them.
Re:Give Me The $120 Million (Score:2)
Re:Give Me The $120 Million (Score:2)
Actually I was "lowered" to that level years ago - using the $120 million for legit things would be a atep up for me.
And I could do a lot with $120 million - that's just the seed capital for some R&D. Once I had the products I wanted, it would be easy to find investors to put up enough to bury Microsoft - especially since I'd use software patents to make sure Microsoft couldn't reverse engineer the product - "hoist them with their own petard", as it were. After MS (and a couple other outfits like Oracle
Re:Give Me The $120 Million (Score:2)
So you're an admitted murderer? Interesting.
Re:Give Me The $120 Million (Score:2)
Not for lack of wanting to, though.
I got better things to do.
Overheard in Redmond... (Score:2)
Actions speak louder than words: here's a start (Score:3, Insightful)
Just try being a bit smarter and make sure you only ever ask once what country people are in - and take note from there. In short, start assuming the US is just one other country, and there is certainly nothing special about it. Save yourself the marketing budget for something useful.
Doing the right thing (Score:2)
If you've ever been in Microsoft's HQ you'll see it's a company like any else, with one exception: people really believe that their work will change the world, for the better or worse.
This inspires, but it's also a lot of stress. Some support from the "public" is never a bad thing, neither for the employees or the business, so this initiat
Re:Doing the right thing (Score:2)
To paraphrase H.L. Mencken, the New Deal, like the Salvation Army, set off to save mankind from it's inherent, incurable swinishness. Like the Salvation Army, it wound up running flophouses.
Drawing the parallel is left as an exercise for the reader.
In Europe they're sort of... (Score:2, Insightful)
More on this? Sure, look here (Irish unit lets Microsoft cut taxe [post-gazette.com]
Re:STFU for once (Score:2, Insightful)
That's not hard to achieve when you buy or copy most of your basic technology from outside sources, then omit staffing for adequate QA and security reviews in product development, then leverage your familiar dominant cash cows to force success new markets with mediocre products.