RFC On New Internet Routing Protocol 148
PoesRaven writes "An A. Farrel has put out a Request For Comments paper on a new routing protocol with profound implications for the internet, the usability of the TCP/IP protocol, and the security of the net's youngest users. From the RFC: "It has often been the case that morality has not been given proper consideration in the design and specification of protocols produced within the Routing Area. This has led to a decline in the moral values within the Internet and attempts to retrofit a suitable moral code to implemented and deployed protocols has been shown to be sub-optimal." Interesting, but seems to raise some serious privacy questions.
Hey! I read the article! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:2)
Thing is that April Fool's Day traditionally ends at noon. This was posted at 13:38.
Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:3, Funny)
April Fools, fool!</Mr.T Voice>
Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:2)
SEVERAL days later? (Score:2)
Re:SEVERAL days later? (Score:2)
Re:SEVERAL days later? (Score:2)
Its the 3rd now (at least where I am) and I've still got to pay special attention to the date on an article. The point of my post was that on the internet, no one takes their dumb april fools jokes down immediately, and if you're not careful you may get fooled several days later because you read some april fools joke you didn't see on the 1st.
I thought it was obvious...
Re:SEVERAL days later? (Score:2)
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Re:SEVERAL days later? (Score:2)
Gmail is free, and as of today it gives you Infinity+1 MB of storage space, so there's no reason not to switch. gmail.google.com]
April Fools half-day (Score:2)
The first place I had heard of this was sometime in grade school. Teachers started telling us that April Fools Day really ended at noon, so we weren't allowed to prank in the afternoon. Really, it's just a way to prevent the waste of an entire day.
Much like in the town I grew up in - Hallowe'en "officially" ended at 8pm. They even blew the town whistle to let everyone know. It was an easy way to keep kids from roaming the streets all night long.
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Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:2)
Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:2)
Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:2)
"Such a thought is, of course, unthinkable"
Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:2)
The item that really made me laugh today was the one about the Gentoo experimental release built on the Microsoft NT Kernel, the only thing is, I think _they_ have me for an April fool, because they made it look so plausible except for the lack of released code
Re:Hey! I read the article! (Score:2)
So did Clippy (Score:2, Funny)
April fools (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:April fools (Score:2)
Re:April fools (Score:5, Informative)
Slashdot would be remiss if they didn't put up the link.
I suspect RFC 4042 [ietf.org] will make a cameo on the Slashdot homepage today as well.
Dead horses (Score:2)
All these others that have followed, including todays jewel, are cheap knockoff copies. They aren't original. They aren't unexpected. It could even be argued that they aren't well thought out. In other words they just are not funny.
Even if the first couple of knockoffs were funny, like any joke that is told too much, the become not funny over time. These are beyond not funny. R
Re:Dead horses (Score:4, Insightful)
RFC 748 was written by the same guy who wrote RFC 4042, issued today.
I also agree that the recent April Fools RFCs aren't all that funny. The Evil Bit last year was pretty lame.
Re:Dead horses (Score:2)
The evil bit was cool because people implemented it. I particularly loved the diagram of the bit :-)
Re:Dead horses (Score:3, Insightful)
The problem is that converting one-off jokes into running gags is more art than science, and clearly something these poor guys have absolutely no grasp of.
This RFC was just pitiful, all the more so because of the obvious time investment.
Re:Dead horses (Score:2)
But that's precisely the problem they're trying to address! If every system were RFC-4041 compliant, cessation of sadomasonecrobestiality wouldn't be such a problem now, would it?
RFC 1149 was actually implemented (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:April fools (Score:1)
I very much doubt it. The chances of any Slashdotter appreciating the humour in that one is practically nil. Mainly because the amount of humour is also practically nil.
They spend a whole paper talking about a new Unicode format they've come up with that gives a more efficient representation on architectures with 9bit bytes (yes, they exist - see the PDP11).
And I guess that's the whole joke 'cos there sure as fuck ain't anything
Re:April fools (Score:2)
Re:April fools (Score:4, Interesting)
Actually, if you read the article, you might find this one quite funny... has some great quotes in it, like:
The key words "SHALT", "SHALT NOT", "SMITE", and "PILLAR OF SALT" in this document are to be interpreted as expected.
and:
If the Morality Considerations section is present, it MUST contain at least the following subsections. The content of these subsections is surely self-evident to any right-thinking person. Further guidance can be obtained from your moral guardian, your household gods, or from any member of the IMM (Internet Moral Majority).
Oh well, mebbe I'm easily amused...
Re:April fools (Score:2)
You are wrong.
They are getting better, but getting more narrow and more slanted towards a specific profession. For example the referred RFC is really funny only if you know some network engineering. If you do, you will end up in cramps on the floor from hysterical laughter. It is even better then RFC on IP over Avian Carriers with QoS and draft on Electicity over MPLS.
After all it is an IETF document - it is supposed to be funny to the IETF audience.
I'm going to have to call it... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I'm going to have to call it... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I'm going to have to call it... (Score:2)
+5 Funny
+5 Unintentionally Insightful
Re:I'm going to have to call it... (Score:2)
i can only take so much... (Score:2, Offtopic)
Re:i can only take so much... (Score:2, Funny)
that's like trusting everything you hear from FOX news
P.S the popes dead...
Yes, but.... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh, hell, no-one's going to get this joke.
Re:Yes, but.... (Score:2)
Saints Fan myself, though.
Re:Yes, but.... (Score:1)
Re:Yes, but.... (Score:2)
Hilarious (Score:2)
April Fools? (Score:1)
Re:April Fools? (Score:1)
And I'm not specifically talking watching out for deception, but also technical errors, typos and general laziness. Like that cookie recipe that called for 2 cups of flour and a tablespoon of salt. Blech!
This time i will eat my PDA (Score:4, Insightful)
"It is well accepted by popular opinion and other reliable metrics
that moral values are declining and that degeneracy is increasing.
Young people are particularly at risk from the rising depravity in
society and much of the blame can be squarely placed at the door of
the Internet. If you do not feel safe on the streets at night, what
do you think it is like on the Information Superhighway?"
Then it all came apart , This is a better april fools though
Re:This time i will eat my PDA (Score:2)
"...Promiscuous modes of operation are an abomination, exceeded only by
multicast..."
and thought maybe there was some truth in it?
Re:This time i will eat my PDA (Score:2)
Re:This time i will eat my PDA (Score:2)
RTFRFC (Score:5, Informative)
You should read more carefully. The RFC does not specify a new protocol, it specifies a new section in RFC documentation, much like the "security implication" sections that started appearing a few years back.
If you're going to try and be funny - at least be correct. That said, your rush to condemn it certainly puts your moral standing in question - eh?
April Fools (Score:3, Funny)
Last year's evil bit was funnier. (Score:3, Informative)
Oh well.
Honesty in reporting (Score:1)
Re:Honesty in reporting (Score:2)
Spoof RFCs (Score:3, Funny)
I hada great idea for TCP/IP over chocolate - inspired by pidgeon transmission.
Every time I sit down to write it up I get so full of laughter it's never completed. Shame.
Some choice bits include:
Maybe next year ..
Re:Spoof RFCs (Score:2)
More april fools? (Score:1)
Just means that april 2 has most of the april fools jokes for me
Samuel
This is fantastic. (Score:1)
First I thought.. (Score:4, Insightful)
Then I thought..
"Don't give 'em ideas!"
april 1 (Score:1, Offtopic)
YA April fools post. (Score:2)
This was a nice candidate for an april fools joke.
The fuun of it is not in calling it when you see it. It's just the other way around, waiting or even baiting for those who fall for the joke, so you can get a good laugh.
Getting a first post that says "April Fools, hehehehe" takes away most of the fun. After that, you know you will be seeing very few poor guys who fell for the joke.
I can't believe the IETF accepted this... (Score:2)
April Fools Day is Great isn't it? (Score:3, Informative)
kylewenda.com [kylewenda.com] - the government records your phone calls... scary
rfc-editor.org [rfc-editor.org] - RFC for "Requirements for Morality Sections in Routing Area Drafts"
waferbaby.com [waferbaby.com] - amusing php error
planet.gentoo.org [gentoo.org] - Various things, CFLAGS, etc
fark.com [fark.com] - Many Jokes (keep reloading): BOOBIES!, Logged in as admin, North-Central Kentucky Bunghole-Discharge, page from 1999, BEER
2600.com [2600.com] - Formal Attire required for 2600 meetings today
forumsector.com [forumsector.com] - Changed the name to Nascar Sector
wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] - Britannica taking over Wikimedia
google.com [google.com] - Google releases Google Gulp
kellyosbourne.org [kellyosbourne.org] - Sanctuary records group shut us down
nukefreezone.net [nukefreezone.net] - Making fun of atrios.blogspot.com
weebl.jolt.co.uk [jolt.co.uk] - Replaced with Cats-By-Mail
telecom.co.nz [telecom.co.nz] - Click 2 Brick
ytmnd.com [ytmnd.com] - (NSFW) hacked by teens for christ
wingus.ampedhost.com [ampedhost.com] - Site converted into Mingus' Gently-Used Furniture store. Oh dear. Why won't he be kind?
homestarrunner.com [homestarrunner.com] - Now a pay service.
whirlpool.net.au [whirlpool.net.au] - Australia's biggest Luddite to head Australia's largest telco
thinkgeek.com [thinkgeek.com] - Fake product listings.
theregister.co.uk [theregister.co.uk] - Bush twins to join Air Force tech unit in Iraq
creativebits.org [creativebits.org] - Site purchased by Microsoft
ocremix.org [ocremix.org] - Now partnered with EA (or something like that). Called EA ReMix.
spacedaily.com [spacedaily.com] - Bush Cancels Space Shuttle Program
planet.gnome.org [gnome.org] - Switched sites with planet.kde.org
planet.kde.org [kde.org] - Switched sites with planet.gnome.org
ietf.org [ietf.org] - RFC: Efficient Transformation Formats of Unicode
beejaysworld.de [beejaysworld.de] - Gentoo dropping livecds for x86
nature.com [nature.com] - Apollo bacteria spur lunar erosion
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] - Water On Mars
Re:April Fools Day is Great isn't it? (Score:2)
Re:April Fools Day is Great isn't it? (Score:1)
MOD PARENT DOWN (Score:2)
Re:MOD PARENT DOWN (Score:2)
See:
<a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144460& c id=12109759">This</a> and
<a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144539&c id=12109711">this</a> and
<a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144459&c id=12109881">Finally</a>,
<a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144552&c id=12110425">This</a>
Re:MOD PARENT DOWN (Score:2)
Reuse... (Score:1)
Fool who? (Score:1)
This is definitely after noon though - bad luck to the submitter...
What happened to the evil bit ? (Score:1)
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3514.html [faqs.org]
In other news ... (Score:2, Funny)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/01/steve_job
And Bush's twins join the Air Force!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/01/bush_twin
Oh well... (Score:1, Informative)
I'd like to remind everyone... (Score:2, Insightful)
Didn't even read past headline (Score:2)
The problem is, I think everything is april fools! damn!
Morality is a subjective matter (Score:3, Insightful)
As for blockin pr0n, who cares. It would really be useful if this could block spam!
Still, problem is, who gets to sit and determine what is immoral and what isn't? And for that matter, whose morals are we talking about here, is it the FCC, the WWE, the people behind goatse, the Republican Right, or maybe some Islamic Council for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice? And who will pay them? Again, remember the system's ability to block any obstacles including taxation; the ARPAnet people back in the day thought in terms of nuclear bombs not nuclear family value enforcements...
Then again, considering the date of issue of this RFC, it is all in the +1 Funny realm anyway, which as we know, is karma neutral.
I rest my case.
Re:Morality is a subjective matter (Score:2)
Made me laugh (Score:2)
new RFC terminology (Score:2)
Now prowl the comments for people saying 'why didn't they just use xyz protocol?' without realising
There are 10 kinds of people. (Score:3, Funny)
Those who realize it's an April fool's joke without having to be told.
Those who think that was binary.
Re:There are 10 kinds of people. (Score:2)
Re:There are 10 kinds of people. (Score:2)
Hah funny. (Score:3, Interesting)
Likelihood of misuse by large, multi-national corporations. Such a thought is, of course, unthinkable.
Availability of oversight facilities. There are those who would corrupt our morals motivated as they are by a hatred of the freedom of Internet access with which we are graced. We place a significant burden of responsibility on those who guard our community from these evil-doers and it is only fitting that we give them as much support as is possible. Therefore, all encryption and obfuscation techniques MUST be excluded - individuals who have nothing to hide need to fear the oversight of those whose morals are beyond doubt.
Care and concern for avian carriers. A duck may be somebody's mother.
The real joke is ofcourse that I actually RTFA
Slashdot useless for the day. (Score:3, Funny)
Oh.. wait... I should follow my own advice.
GJC
As much as I know it's April 1 . . . . . (Score:2, Insightful)
Disturbing (Score:3, Insightful)
Even though this kind of joke has been done to death, I had hoped for a smile to at least cross my lips.
Re:Disturbing (Score:1)
Must try harder.
Lame (Score:1)
Now wait... (Score:1)
Not to be a fuddy-duddy, but (Score:2)
Can we NOT have a repeat of last year, where you couldn't find any serious articles on 1 Apr? Sure, some of the fake news is funny, and maybe one or two are actually clever, but most of them (especially last year, ARGGHHH) are awful, stupid, and uncreative. Let's put the really good joke stories up and intermix them with some real stories!
As an aside, I hope I don't get put on a "You have been temporarily forbidden from posting" holiday for speaking out against the editors (do any of you guys know the ed
Yeah, yeah April fools and all, BUT (Score:1)
We may be laughing at this one right up until a serious version of it hits Congress.
IETF announces IP over Burrito Carriers (Score:2)
Obviously a Joke (Score:1)
Finally... a real story amid the jokes (Score:2)
Fnally (Score:2, Funny)
"3.2.2. Jumbo Packets
It is no longer appropriate to refer to "jumbo packets". Please use the term "capacitorially challenged".
Also known as "Fat Bastard" packets.
Ha ... (Score:2)
To the author: don't quit your day job for a glamorous career in comedy just yet.
Old RFC? (Score:2)
Anm
Another RFC Today.... (Score:3, Informative)
It may be a joke, but I for one welcome our new nonet-using PDP10 overlords. (It would be better with nonets of balanced trits [wikipedia.org], but hey...)
Re:This would be a lot more amusing... (Score:2)
...
Oh, wait, you think those are the SAME THING?! Either I woke up in 1982 again (hate when that happens...) or you just haven't been paying attention...
Re:This would be a lot more amusing... (Score:1)
But you know, that all doesn't fit in the spellchecker. Thanks for picking up on that !
Re:This would be a lot more amusing... (Score:2)
And WTF is "unsurping?" I can't figure out if it's a typo or you're actually more clever than your High School too-cool-for-the-room rant lets on...
Re:In soviet russia... (Score:2)
I can hear it now "Excommunicate... Excommunicate..."