New Technique Could Trace Documents By Printer 287
An anonymous reader submits "From this article at Purdue News, 'Researchers at Purdue University have developed a method that will enable authorities to trace documents to specific printers, a technique law-enforcement agencies could use to investigate counterfeiting, forgeries and homeland security matters.' The neat thing is that they are exploiting the characteristics of the print process itself to identify the printer." <update> One of the folks e-mailed me to say that the HP LaserJet 9000dn was one of the big ones tested with.
Big Brother knows.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Big Brother knows....SMS (Score:4, Funny)
Boy are you out of date. SMS, the only way to message in class.
Re:Big Brother knows.... Printer/ink; file/1's 0's (Score:2)
If that is true, then printer resolution has been better than we've been led to believe, and that would mean that we have been paying for "featureful" but crippled machines.
You left your tinfoil hat at home and your theories are leaking. For god's sake get another one before they find you!
Obviously (Score:5, Funny)
Sorry but... (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry to rain on your parade, Homeland Security, but if counterfeiters can counterfeit hard currency worth a damn, they can certainly hack a printer to make it quickly change configurations at the drop of a hat. Get your marker and bic pens ready, all ye counterfeiters!
Re:Sorry but... (Score:5, Insightful)
In fact, a lot of effort seems to be put in stopping our regular Joe from counterfeiting hard currency. They have taken action against small time counterfeiters through this method or the hexagon (or was it a pentagon) that's printed in every 20 Dollars bill.
But the really big counterfitter, the one that's printing millions of dollars every month doesn't use HP's Laserjet. Come on guys, do you really think they're printing currency in a small time printer?
Government should be after big-time counterfiters, those settled in Colombia or North Korea. Those guys actually influence US economy.
Not John Doe who amuzes himself printing 5 bucks in his HP printer to brag with his friends.
Re:Sorry but... (Score:5, Interesting)
However, the fed can't have that same trust of joe sixpack, because he is an amateur crook, and might teach his buddies how to do the same. He is the biggest threat, and not to the economy... but rather to the scam itself.
If you bother writing your congressmen, add an extra sentence or two insisting that the government resume its right to coin money, and take it out of the hands of a private corporation owned by foreigners.
Not effective (Score:2, Insightful)
Smash the el-cheapo printer, dump the parts, get a new one, start over. Probably not very effective to stop counterfeiting currency.
Re:Sorry but... (Score:3, Interesting)
I think they're taking the same approach to counterfeiting as Microsoft does to pirating. Microsoft stops Joe Schmoe from pirating by only allowing x number of installations per key. They still have XP Corporate edition which has no limit.
They know they're not going to stop the big-time guys, so they don't try. If you want to bad enough, there's nothing they can do to stop you (or even make it not worth yo
9000 is not a 'small time printer'... (Score:3, Interesting)
The 9000 is the largest printer HP makes. It is very, very fast. Probably not as fast as some of the Xerox docucenters and such, but fast.
The problem is that people are stupid and don't actually examine cash they take. It used to be that cashiers could tell instantly if you handed them a fake bill, on f
Re:Sorry but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Is it even a crime to make counterfeit U.S. currency if you're not in the U.S.? What would you have the Secret Service do, send in Delta Force and/or Arnold Schwartzenegger to liquidate the operation?
Taken on the whole, I'm sure the devaulation of U.S. currency due to counterfeit is more than offset by the fact that if you want to buy oil, you have to spend U.S. dollars, which keeps demand artifically high. (See
Re:Sorry but... So what? (Score:2)
Sorry to rain on your parade, Homeland Security, but if counterfeiters can counterfeit hard currency worth a damn, they can certainly hack a printer to make it quickly change configurations at the drop of a hat. Get your marker and bic pens ready, all ye counterfeite
Re:Sorry but... So what? (Score:3, Insightful)
The Constitution guarantees my right to be secure in my effects and p
Re:Sorry but... So what? (Score:3, Insightful)
You know the government can compare fingerprints. The government can compare DNA. The government can match paper fiber samples and p
Re:Sorry but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Nope. This is probably a quiet attempt to track printers and copiers for death threats and documents for non-counterfeiting criminals and terrorists.
But that's not the only way (Score:4, Insightful)
From the article:
The technique uses two methods to trace a document: first, by analyzing a document to identify characteristics that are unique for each printer, and second by designing printers to purposely embed individualized characteristics in documents.
So there are actually two ways and the second requires redesigning printers. I wonder if the government will push printer makers in to changing their printer in the "interest of national security."
Stealth printers, then... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Stealth printers, then... (Score:3, Interesting)
Or counterfeiters will just keep using the printers out there today and find some way to alter the printing process. This will only stop the causal counterfeiter that is probably stupid enough to get caught without this technology.
Another thing to hoard (Score:3, Funny)
Re:But that's not the only way (Score:2)
Tracking Printer Heads and Toner Drums (Score:5, Interesting)
How about steganography.... (Score:2)
Re:How about steganography.... (Score:2)
toner refills (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Tracking Printer Heads and Toner Drums (Score:3, Interesting)
If the FBI can read zero-wiped hard drives by measuring quantum charact
Re:Tracking Printer Heads and Toner Drums (Score:2, Funny)
Wait, this isn't the RIAA article...
Re:Tracking Printer Heads and Toner Drums (Score:2)
Hence the chisel and tablet (Score:5, Funny)
That's odd (Score:2)
Huh. When I tell printer support people that I've used third party stuff, they *usually* give me the bird.
Re:Hence the chisel and tablet (Score:2)
Great! (Score:5, Funny)
In Soviet Russia... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Great! (Score:2, Offtopic)
Pot calling the kettle black. How many times has Bush dodged the mistake question?
Re:Great! (Score:2, Interesting)
Interpol paper from a few years ago... (Score:5, Informative)
"DOCUMENTS PRODUCED BY BUSINESS MACHINES
It goes without saying that the proliferating market of modern business technology
such as copiers, fax machines and printers reduces a systematic forensic approach.
However, a number of projects report progress in the following:
Classification of full colour copiers
Doherty (31) gives an overview on state-of-the-art classification of ink-jet printers
and inks. Interestingly, the findings indicate that the results of TLC analysis
"before" and "after" show significant differences because the ink-components are
modified by heat during the print process. For specialists in traditional typewriting
examination, the overview of Frensel (41) on typewriters produced in the former
East Germany is of interest when identifying products manufactured before and
after World War II. Gervais & Lindblom (43) present a case illustrating detection of
digital manipulation on a facsimile printout. Hammond (47) compares the collected
technical data of facsimile machines. The demonstration of secondary typewriting
and alterations by the use of grids is today easily carried out by using the
appropriate computer software, as shown by Hicks (55). If there are actually
different computer assisted typewriting data collections, the system DRUIDE,
developed by Holzapfel & Marx (58) is comprehensive and designed for routine
casework. The traditional typewriter - disappearing on the market - still has its
forensic impact. Few references go back to the roots of typewriting examination and
commercial production, e.g., in the former Eastern Block. Horton (60) compares the
identifiability of the flatbed scanner and its products by comparing the marks on
scanned images. Lauterbach (68) describes 30 fax machines and their characteristic
printouts for identification purposes. A survey by Tweedy (129) on state-of-the-art
colour Laser copier identification by bitmap coding includes an overview of
counterfeit protection by the characteristics and class of the major copying
machines on the market. Wagner (134) presents the "Australian Toner Library" and
the discriminating power of FTIR as compared to ATR. In a similar direction, but
looking more specifically at the dating and sourcing of the Transmitting Terminal
Identifier on a fax document, is a study by Westwood & Novotny (138). White et al
(139) show the benefits of Surface Enhanced Resonance RAMAN Scattering
Spectroscopy (SERRS) for an almost non-destructive spectroscopic examination of
inks. Winter (141) studied the evidential value of the dot pattern of colour ink-jet
and bubble-jet printers for individual identification."
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Forensic/IFSS/meet
Reminiscing (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Reminiscing (Score:2)
Wait! I need to go stab myself in the brain to get these memories out!
Re:Reminiscing (Score:2)
Re:Reminiscing (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Reminiscing (Score:3, Interesting)
Already in place. (Score:2, Interesting)
This might be news because small desktop printers have never had small enough 'pixels' to keep it smaller then your eye can see.
Re:Already in place. (Score:5, Informative)
your printers are incapable of printing less than it's maximum dpi. and no laser or inkjet let alone a dye-sublimation printer is capable of microscopic printing.
nice of you to make up crap, but let's at least make it slightly believeable.
show me a proof before you start throwing about lies as truth. Espically when it goes against physics and mechanical capabilities.
Re:Already in place. (Score:2)
At that time, how to read this information wasn't generally available to the public.
Probably this is the same stuff warmed up again.
Re:Already in place. (Score:2)
Re:Already in place. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Already in place. (Score:2)
Instead of relying on the laser engine or inkjet head (with its limited DPI) to print the barcode, it would be fairly simple to have the printer essentially stamp it (impact style) onto each sheet as it passes through. Make the stamp sufficiently small, or perhaps use a special ultraviolet toner, and you now have a way to trace every sheet of paper that comes out.
Come to think of it, the impact itself should
Re:Already in place. (Score:2)
Re:Already in place. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:solution: run printed page tru copiers at kinko (Score:2)
What is worse? An annonymous printer sold at Worst Buy, or your face on the security tape at kinkos?
Grump.
print heads in carts (Score:4, Interesting)
Hmm, easy to beat... (Score:2)
And if this should occur, they have to resort to printing identifying "watermarks" in documents, which isn't terribly different from existing currency technology/etc.
Note to counterfeiters (Score:5, Insightful)
As far as those who are concerned about the government secretly tracking them down by the printer signatures in their anonymous manifestoes I think there are other things to worry about from the government.
Re:Note to counterfeiters (Score:3, Insightful)
Just don't use the counterfit cash from your last print run.
Re:Note to counterfeiters (Score:4, Insightful)
Steal printer in dead of night while wearing masks. Register printer to people in rival crime syndicates. Use printer to weigh down the bodies you throw in the river. Use the counterfeit money to buy drugs, sell the drugs (at a nice profit, thanks to the DEA helping keep prices high by limiting supply to those who know how to be effective criminals) to get real money and use that money to buy new masks and paper for the printer. Sure you could steal those too, but that is beneath you if you call yourself a professional criminal.
Here's a thought.... (Score:2)
Okidata 9 or 27 pin printer may soon be popular (Score:2)
Algorithmic Font Mutations (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Algorithmic Font Mutations (Score:3, Insightful)
Just have your own, custom True Type font -- and remember not to embed it in any of your documents. Sounds like security through obscurity however, since it works best when you don't suspect it's being used.
Of course, if they redo the entire document with their revisions, the font will fully match and you're left arguin
and they called me paranoid (Score:4, Funny)
A little flaw with that plan (Score:3, Funny)
Re:and they called me paranoid (Score:2)
Xerox Watermark (Score:5, Interesting)
About 5 or 6 years ago a friend that owned a print shop and used a Xerox color laser printer told me about Xerox imprinting every print with a watermark that could be decoded to obtain the serial number of the actual machine used in the printing.
The watermark was undetectable to the human eye and didn't alter the presentation of the image.
They did this at the behest of the government because it's so easy to print money on these things. This way they can track the money back to the machine via the serial number.
Re:Xerox Watermark (Score:3, Informative)
CSI??? (Score:2, Funny)
Please repeat after me... (Score:2)
Just another term to add to your IT vocabulary.
Re:Please repeat after me... (Score:4, Funny)
The equivalent of ballistic fingerprinting? (Score:5, Interesting)
In order for this to provide the means to track a forged document to it's source will require printers to be "tested" when sold so their "printing fingerprint" can be recorded.
Otherwise, at best if can serve as a confirmation, not a tracing method. This is how ballistic characteristics test are used. They are used to confirm that a gun fired a bullet, not to trace the bullet to the gun.
Re:The equivalent of ballistic fingerprinting? (Score:2)
It seems it would be technically possible to add taggants to trace ink and toner like they do for some explosives and fertilizer. Still, given the retail nature of ink/toner cartridges it would be difficult to narrow it down past a particul
Cool!Traceable embedded signatures in all printers (Score:2, Interesting)
Really, I have to say this is a bad idea. The article goes beyond a forensic technique of trying to match documents to the printer that made it.
Re:Cool!Traceable embedded signatures in all print (Score:3, Insightful)
*Puzzled look* Huh? When did they confiscate all the pens and pencils?
Re:Cool!Traceable embedded signatures in all print (Score:2)
Keep in mind that it was the printing press, with its ability to cheaply mass produce content that helped spread the kind of dissent that led to the American Revolution. These days, Thomas Paine, who printed patriotic tracts like Common Sense, might be tracked down as a possible terrorist.
The ability to truly speak freely is fading, if it ever existed. T
Re:Cool!Traceable embedded signatures in all print (Score:2)
If your speach requires you to be untraceable, then by and large you've already lost.
Re:Cool!Traceable embedded signatures in all print (Score:2)
*Yes, I know this is an over simplification.
No....no, it isn't.
better-than-a-notch-in-the-e (Score:2)
Nothing new... (Score:2, Insightful)
Jan
Multi-generation prints (Score:2)
Print the original on your home / work printer. Take it to a copy shop to make a second generation. Take it to another copy shop to make a third generation copy. Repeat until your personal level of paranoia is satisfied. Copy the finals semi-anonymously at a high volume, self service location in a large city. Check for security cameras first.
The way thte article makes it sound... (Score:3, Insightful)
For that matter, I would have to think that switching ink cartridges (or drums), switching gears between printers, switching paper trays, possibly even print drivers will have a large enough effect that this method will not be able to correctly identify nearly as many printers correctly as they claim given the fact that conterfeiters will be trying to beat them at their own game.
Just my thoughts...
Can the technique trace (Score:2)
*NEW* Technique!? Nothing *NEW* about this (Score:3, Funny)
There's another *New* technique that Law Enforcement will be using, it allows them to view data on your hard drive that has been erased!!!!
I hope that the terrorists... (Score:2)
Re:I hope that the terrorists... (Score:2, Informative)
Homeland (Score:5, Insightful)
Does anyone beleive that if these devices make it to market, the "evil doers" are going to rush right out to the store and buy a printer with a "Homeland Security Inside" sticker on it? And then properly register it? Anyone with serious criminal intent is either going to use a non-equiped printer, or a printer which is stolen or misleadingly registered.
Don't get me wrong, this is kinda cool, and I'm sure it will help for things like kidnappings, but "Homeland Security"? Give me a break.
the hack (Score:2)
ILL Clinton Machinima Movie Maker [illclan.com]
Modchip your printer. (Score:2, Interesting)
Only the dumb... (Score:2)
So we'll be able to catch the dumb terrorists now.
My fortune is made! (Score:2)
W00t, my fortune is made. I ought to be able to sell my pre-embedded ID LaserJet on eBay for what it cost me now to the paranoid of the world. Bids start tomorrow at $900!
Another Xmas present for the 2600 crowd (Score:2)
Bye bye Photoshop (Score:2)
There go my high-quality Photoshop prints. And just when color lasers were getting good enough and cheap enough to consider.
Fax it (Score:2, Interesting)
If I'm really THAT into keeping my identity secret, I'll just print it out at some kiosk in a mall.
Back to the old fashioned way. (Score:2)
Say goodbye to the anonymous press. (Score:5, Insightful)
The old USSR days (Score:5, Interesting)
He told us this story (BTW, I have no idea if it is true.) about how all photocopiers in the USSR had a serial number etched on the glass so the copies it made could be traced. Much easier to track down papers proclaiming the joys of Liberty I guess.
Well, that teacher has past on but I really wonder what he'd think of all this? All kidding aside is the US starting to look a little like the old USSR?
No really, it doesn't (Score:2)
Re:No really, it doesn't (Score:2, Insightful)
Example: The DMCA and PATRIOT act authorized the use of some pretty brutal tactics, technologies for which were also developed without foresight of this possibility.
How do we know there won't be a PATRIOT 2 act, just as gullibly let through the Legislative branch of our government that will authorize, say, tracking down all 'suspicious with reasonable doubt' messages using this. Your private e-mail, or anything you may have printed, including private information, could be traced
Re:ah yes (Score:3, Informative)
Re:ah yes (Score:5, Interesting)
One document obtained by the AP, a 1998 U.S. government business solicitation, mandated that "any color printer must include a tracing system that encodes system identification in any output. This will tie the output to the originating equipment so that forensic identification of the equipment is possible in the event of illegal printing of currency images due to failure or circumvention of the recognition system(s)...."
In a number of contracts where the US government has bought printers, they've required tracing features to be present-- effectively forcing them to be in printers sold to the general public as well. So effectively, many color printers are embedding their serial number in output documents. (And this is a lot more damaging-- saying this particular printer made a particular document, rather than a Epson Stylus 700).
Re:ah yes (Score:3, Insightful)
On a more prosaic level DIGIMARC allows photoshop users to embed a unique ID number within your image and if someone opens up your image with a DIGIMARC enabled tool alarm bells go off.
Anyone know where we can get some Diablo 630's or Okidata Microline 83/93's (printers too stupid to encode images)
Re:ah yes (Score:2)
Re:National Security is great and all.... (Score:2)
Re:Expect some things... (Score:2)