
NY Holds Spam Scam Contest 118
evilquaker writes "The state of New York's Consumer Protection Board is running a contest they call 'Spam and Bologna'. Their goal is to help educate the public, so fewer people will fall for Nigerian scams (and others) in the future. The contest is actually to find the most outrageous example of an email scam, and ends in one month. Yahoo! News provides some more information."
Re:Gonna fight muslims? (Score:1)
Muslims aren't afraid of pigs, they're just not allowed to eat it, its not halal (the equivalent of kosher). You could touch a pig, but you'd have to wash your hands and make ablution before you pray. Even so, there's no sin on you if you involuntarily come into contact with or eat pork. Not your choice, so not your sin.
Pork isn't going to send you to hell if you didn't do it on purpose. All these stories about burying muslims in pig fat won't do anything, if they're
This is good. (Score:5, Insightful)
I cringe when I see new laws being passed to limit what you can do on the internet. If you are using technology to exploit, there should be a technological solution. Once you start making laws, you begin heading down a VERY dark, dangerous path.
Re:This is good. (Score:5, Interesting)
I do agree with you that bad laws are made as well: poorly drafted laws that inadvertedly curtail our freedoms while trying to achieve something good. An example: a proposed law to outlawing spam would also make legitimate mailing lists illegal. Another one: a law against music piracy (to use the common term for it) might limit what we could legally do with music that we own, such as playing it on different equipment.
Making laws to govern the Internet can be a "dark, dangerous path" indeed, beset with legislators and lobbyists who have hidden intentions. One sometimes gets suspicious that there is nothing accidental about these laws accidentally limiting our freedom. But that doesn't mean that we should not have any laws at all on principle; it means that any and all laws should pass this criterium: A law should serve the stated purpose for which is was drafted, and nothing else. No "unintentional" side effects.
Re:This is good. (Score:5, Insightful)
Theft is, and always will be illegal; using the Internet for theft shouldn't even be legally questionable. It's a crime.
However, what I AM afraid of is that laws are being passed specifically to prevent actions which are based on legal foundations, but somehow are misused for illegal practices. An example would be like your mailing list statement. Automated mailing or whatever they want to call it.
I'm just afraid that once you start using laws to strengthen weak protocols, then you've already set a precedent of using laws to support weakened ideas. The DMCA is a good example of this. You develop a weak protocol/program/encryption scheme and then make it illegal to show that it sucks. Anyone who would want to point out its flaws is a criminal for trying to help, yet the criminals are more than happy to stay just below ground and take advantage of it to its full potential.
Re:This is good. (Score:2)
Like alarms and cameras are mostly a technological solution for a social problem, these new laws are a social solution for a technological problem.
I doubt it's possible to use laws to fight spam (World peace would be more easy to accomplish), however a better e-mail protocol would be able to reduce spam to a minimum, just see how (relatively) easy the o
Re:This is good. (Score:2)
Unless computers have started sending spam of their own accord, it is a social problem.
Re:This is good. (Score:2)
What "proposed law" is that? I keep up with spam related news fairly closely, and have not heard about any law which would outlaw opt in lists of any sort.
Re:SCO! (Score:1)
Thousands of people get the same spam (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Thousands of people get the same spam (Score:1)
And the alternative is, what, "special deliver spam" only sent to a couple of people? Boyo, I should give your email address to my hick cousin Elrod in the Ozarks. He keeps trying to get me to invest in his nutty projects: ostrich farming, beefalo ranching, growing Hawaiian leis in Missouri... heh, who knows, maybe Elrod could win this stupid contest, even if I'm the only one he seems to be spamming
My favorite version of the Nigerian style scam (Score:5, Funny)
Re:My favorite version of the Nigerian style scam (Score:2, Funny)
Tony Blair, Jose Maria Aznar and John Howard to name a few.
Re:My favorite version of the Nigerian style scam (Score:1, Funny)
He's quite good at the death sentance.
Re:My favorite version of the Nigerian style scam (Score:1)
How the hell did you get this past the lameness filter? Did you sneak it past while it was napping or did you infiltrate the Slashdot server park Mission Impossible stylee to enter this there by hand??
Inquiring minds are confused
Re:My favorite version of the Nigerian style scam (Score:2)
Re:My favorite version of the Nigerian style scam (Score:2)
Doesn't this encourage certain people... (Score:5, Insightful)
I hate to be caught up in a scam spamming contest...
odd. (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean, if you fall for one of those scams once, you need to be very ignorant to fall for it a second time.
door salesmen are sort of spam too, and are people being taught to watch out for them too ?
I don't think it'll be worth the effort to teach the lot not to respond to nigerian scams and such.
I'm trying, without much success, to explain to my users that they shouldn't forward or answer on these messages, and it just doesn't help. I even threatened them with corporal punishment, and yet, they're just not impressed it seems.
in other words, I think it's wasted time and money.
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Re:odd. (Score:1)
If You're Against 419 Scams, You're a Racist (Score:2)
So these scams are effectively a tax to increase foreign aid. But unlike most taxes, who punish those who are smart
Re:odd. (Score:2)
I don't think it'll be worth the effort to teach the lot not to respond to nigerian scams and such.
The type that responds to this type of scam (or spam, for that matter) is typically not very net/computer savvy or clueful in the first place. Chances are, they watch a lot of TV and rely on similarly ignorant friends for information.
Seems to me that mass-media exposure of spam/scams would be a good thing.
Another great one (Score:5, Interesting)
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--- citi_bank_ wrote:
From citi_bank_ Sat Jan 31 02:19:56 2004
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 05:19:56 -0500
From: citi_bank_
To: Joskyn
Subject: citi_bank Email Veerification
Dear _citibank Mebmers,
This leter was sennt by_the Citi_Bank serevr to veerify your E-mail addres_. You must clomptee this psrecos by clicking on the link below and enntering in the litle winddow your Citbiank Debit_ full card nummber and PiN that you_use on_the Atm Machine. That is done for your pocetrtion -m- becourse some of_our memebrs no lengor have accses to their email addseesrs and we must verify it.
http://www.citibankonline.com:4%4e%50%74%708%4d
To veerify _your_ _email_ adress and access _your_ _citibank account, clic on_the link below_.
Thank you.
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You just can't make stuff up like that.
Oh, wait...
Re:Another great one (Score:5, Informative)
You scoff, but the scam spam I received did not have a single spelling error in it (a small miracle in itself), and to the untrained or trained but lazy eye, the letter, URL, and the website might very well appear to be legit. And no, not everyone knows that your PIN should never been given to anyone. I imagine that these scammers have harvested quite a few accounts. This is easily the cleverest scam spam I have seen in a long while.
Re:Another great one (Score:2)
The first one is a little absurd, since it looks *really* unofficial, but one or two spelling mistakes wouldn't be uncommon for even an official piece of mail that you'd receive from a company.
Re:Another great one (Score:1)
Anyone who reads the advice from their bank knows. Especially the part that says "Never give your PIN to anyone".
If people then give their PIN away, imho they deserve everything that happens to them from then on.
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Scams? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Scams? (Score:1)
Re:Scams? (Score:2, Funny)
A contest? What contest? (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's a contest: how fast can the New York Consumer Protection Board's mail server be taken down? I figure if just 50 of us rewrite a few procmail rules, we're bound to win both contests. There's no limit on the number of entries.
Come on! This is New York! The Consumer Protection Board should be publicising links to 419eater.com [419eater.com]. There's even a Scammer Baiting Hints and Tips [419eater.com] page. If just a small percentage of the NYC population started trolling these scammers, the Nigerian crap would be over. Is anyone worried about being $rtbl'd by them?
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How to make it difficult for 419-scammers (Score:5, Interesting)
If the scam email was sent from another network, I notify the owner of that network as well (except, as sometimes is the case, it's a Nigerian one...)
I doubt if this fact is related, but in the last two months, the amount of 419-scams I receive has dropped from more than one per day to about one per week.
Re:How to make it difficult for 419-scammers (Score:1, Insightful)
For this and several other reasons, I've started blocking all free mail services. Specific senders who have worked out prior arrangements can get through, but the rest can go screw themselves.
Re:How to make it difficult for 419-scammers (Score:2)
Reducing the time window in which they might receive an exploitable response means more work for them, they have to create new accounts, send out more e-mails, etc.
Sure, whether this is effective remains the question, but blocking e-mails does not help at all to fight the problem. It only means you won't be seeing the e-mails, but they will still be sent.
What to do with networks in rfc-ignorant.org? (Score:1)
This network is listed at rfc-ignorant.org so complaining to the offending network directly is pointless.
Apart from deleting/archiving the spam scam (what I do with my program--see sig), what can one do in this situation to send a message that this sort of internet conduct is not acceptable?
obligatory Monty Python quote (Score:2, Funny)
Quickly! (Score:5, Funny)
Someone nominate the letter SCO sent to those Fortune 500 companies!
ebay scam (Score:5, Informative)
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For a moment, I thought this was authentic. But after a few seconds I found holes in this scheme. The mail was in html (unusual for ebay) and the link is actually blank and it redirect to another page (login-secure-online.tk) that disguise ebay's official page with authentic ebay logo and looks (the page has been taken off after several minutes of the arrival of the mail). The page asks you to enter credit card number, PIN, 3digit security code, both of the last two are absolute no-no in any circumstances anyway.
I would vote one for this email as one of the best scam, but sadly, we know who the winner is only if and when the perpetrators are arrested.
Re:ebay scam (Score:1)
most of them i've seen are badly worded and have spelling mistakes and are just obviously fake, and yet people still fall for those ones.
obviously there are plenty of non-technical people that don't know how to check a URL is correct. if someone actually just wrote one that *really* looked believable, a lot more people would fall for it.
Re:ebay scam (Score:2, Informative)
The latest paypal one also contains LOTS of real links to paypal's website, except for the one that counts which asks you to "confirm" your information.
Re:ebay scam (Score:2)
Scammers masquerading as eBay? That's unpossible!
Good and bad (Score:5, Insightful)
It's like crime prevention generally -- if all you do is focus on the most outrageous aspects of crime, such as serial killers, you lose focus of the more corrosive, every day crimes like car theft and burglary.
If they would pick the most common/popular spams and then report on the chances of getting ripped off by them, hurt by them, or even arrested for buying something you're not supposed to (X A N A X, FR33 PAY P3R V13W!), it might have more of an impact on it.
I'm afraid that if all they focus on is ridiculous shit like 419s, people will just dismiss the problem as something only fools will fall for.
Re:Good and bad (Score:3, Insightful)
You're echoing in microcosm a common concern in the anti-spam world. If legislative or technical efforts against spam target only the most egregious types -- 419-scammers, barnyard porn peddlers, password phishers -- then they may be, inadvertently, making the world safer for spammers who are less blatantly evil. So-called "mainsleaze" spam -- unsolicited bulk ema
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friendlymatch.com scam (Score:2, Interesting)
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Re:Make Penis Fast (Score:2)
The first seven people on the mailing list were trollers on the gay USENET newsgroups, and the last three should be well known. I didn't realise Fred Phelps was famous then.
(Very first USENET Make Money Fast post for comparison. [google.com])
The most realistic piece I ever got (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:In related news... (Score:1)
Ok. I'm dense. What does this mean?
Re:In related news... (Score:2)
* Church of Latter-Day Saints sells Joseph Smith-emblazoned coffee mugs in its gift shop.
Ok. I'm dense. What does this mean?
Roughly speaking, Joseph Smith is the founding prophet of the Church of Latter-Day Saints, better known as Mormons. Mormons are forbidden from drinking coffee.
I think that was the gag, but I'm a bit unsure. But the rest of mabu's post was funny.
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E-mail from the future... (Score:1)
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