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Thebroken Videos 364

Posted by Hemos from the something-fun-to-watch dept.
From a reader: "The guys over at thebroken have put together a fun hacking videozine ( .torrent here ). This episode covers Windows password hacking, destroying your hard drive with 3,000 degree molten iron, console modding, and an interview with Kevin Mitnick. Think "The Man Show" meets computers. Divx Required. "
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  • Bandwidth Usage here we come! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Shakrai ( 717556 ) * on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:13PM (#8647120) Journal

    OMG -- a real live bittorrent related to a frontpage /. article. Now not only can I do my part to cause the /. effect -- I can help enable others to do the same using my own bandwidth!

    Who knew the paid subscription would come in handy afterall? I've already got 50% of it. I'll be sharing this puppy for the next few days :) God, I love the Internet.

    • This must set the record for the largest file ever linked to on Slashdot.

      156 megs! I used to have a hard drive that size.

      • You sure? (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Moth7 ( 699815 )
        And you say this on a community that lives off downloads of large files? Think linux iso for a second...

    • Speak for yourself (Score:2, Interesting)

      by fm6 ( 162816 )
      Bittorrent simply doesn't work on my machine. I'm guessing its because I'm in a private address space behind a Linksys router.

      I'd share my bandwidth if I could. But I'm not willing to expose my machine to a worm-infested, script-kiddie-prowling public internet in order to do it.

      • Re:Speak for yourself (Score:5, Informative)

        by jackbird ( 721605 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:44PM (#8647506)
        RTFM. You need to open up a port or two. No need to get hysterical.

      • Re:Speak for yourself (Score:3, Informative)

        by G27 Radio ( 78394 )
        Download [sourceforge.net] and install Azureus. Forward TCP port 6881 to the machine you will be downloading to (you can tell Azureus to listen on a different port if you don't like 6881.)

        With my cablemodem, setting the max uploads to 4 and the max upload speed to 16KB per second lets me attain speeds up to 400KB per second.

        These are good settings to start with, but you might be able to tweak it to get better speeds depending on your connection. A nice thing about Azureus is when you change your transfer settings they t
      • That's why BT is so great. Paranoid and/or selfish people such as yourself either can't get the file at all, or it could take weeks to download what I can download in half an hour. Long live bit torrent!

    • FreeCache link (Score:5, Informative)

      by donutz ( 195717 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:51PM (#8647577) Homepage Journal
      If you don't want to install BitTorrent, just download from here [freecache.org], courtesy of the Internet Archive.

  • TSS (Score:3, Informative)

    by n9uxu8 ( 729360 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:14PM (#8647125) Homepage
    Useful site for those who didn't catch it first on the screensavers. DAve
  • Does Ramzi make an appearance?
  • I like the iron idea. I think I'll hop over to the local hardware store and grab some on the way home.

    • Re:3000 Degree Molten Iron (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:38PM (#8647454) Homepage Journal
      I like the iron idea. I think I'll hop over to the local hardware store and grab some on the way home.

      Depending upon where you live, you may be suprised to find trucks on the interstate hauling molten aluminum. There has been one accident to my knowledge, vaporizing the occupant of a car.

  • BAH (Score:5, Funny)

    by Aliencow ( 653119 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:14PM (#8647139) Homepage Journal
    This is as much "hacker" as Sum 41 is punk.

  • Spin-Off (Score:3, Funny)

    by Bs15 ( 762456 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:16PM (#8647160)
    These guys came from TechTV. Kinda like a spin-off show of the screen savers. What next? Leo LaPorte and Patrick Norton get their own spin-off?
  • So what if I don't WANT to install spyware?

  • Sure... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Otter ( 3800 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:20PM (#8647212) Journal
    Think "The Man Show" meets computers.

    Not that I've watched it yet, but I'm guessing there's at least one aspect of The Man Show that's not going to appear in this video.

    Unless you count Mitnick's.

  • Poor guys... (Score:4, Informative)

    by Universal Nerd ( 579391 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:20PM (#8647213)
    Only one of the files are on BitTorrent, the other two are straight up downloads... I sense a server meltdown on the horizon.
    • Well consider them a test case to see if a direct link to the torrent on /. can stop a potential download... If it works it shows torrents will save /. websites, if not let the internet gods spare their server from the masses about to descend upon it.
    • I downloaded the file twice as fast from the mac.com mirror as I did from BT. About 30 min vs 60 min.

  • If you have WinAMP (Score:5, Informative)

    by ajiva ( 156759 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:21PM (#8647216)
    If you have Winamp you can click on "TV" and watch this and many other shows, music videos, etc. The bitrates available range from 56k for modems, all the way to 1000k for broadband, and everywhere in between.

  • Oh yeah! (Score:5, Funny)

    by tuxlove ( 316502 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:22PM (#8647233)
    Think "The Man Show" meets computers.

    Oh yeah! Can't wait to see those scantily clad computers!

  • Just like the Man Show (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:25PM (#8647283)
    Except the bouncing jugs are on guys.

  • It's a beautiful thing (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fizban ( 58094 ) <fizban@umich.edu> on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:30PM (#8647346) Homepage
    It's interesting to see the torrent download rate gradually increase as more and more people start linking to the file from slashdot's site and get more and more of the file. Very cool. Isn't technology wonderful?
    • "It's interesting to see the torrent download rate gradually increase as more and more people start linking to the file from slashdot's site and get more and more of the file. Very cool. Isn't technology wonderful?"

      Yeah, wonderful until the tracker itself gets /.ed... Considering that my Azureus client is now having a hard time trying to update the tracker status, I'd say that it's possible it may be starting to happen.

  • Bleh...... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Kenja ( 541830 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:30PM (#8647347)
    "Think "The Man Show" meets computers."

    and now we'll end our show, like we do every show, with geeks on trampolines.

    shudder......

  • torrennts... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by minus_273 ( 174041 ) <{aaaaa} {at} {SPAM.yahoo.com}> on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:32PM (#8647376) Journal
    hmm the bittorrent paper [berkeley.edu]says that it does not scale beyond roughly 2000 users. Now, given the number of people who come to /. and the duration of the downloads, it would be interesting to see if the torrent really does die. I have seen the graphs of results going beyond 2600 and it looked prettly bad. Observing the torrent die may prove itself to be more interesting than

    • Re:torrennts... (Score:4, Informative)

      by Naffer ( 720686 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @03:24PM (#8647903) Journal
      Take a look at http://a.scarywater.net/. They distribtute anime torrents and do so quite successfully with torrets involving thousands of peers. When a new Naruto episode comes out you can often see over 10,000 peers on a single torrent. Of course your computer won't connect to any more then 30 to 50, but the whole point is that everyone is somehow connected to everybody else and the files get around.

    • Re:torrennts... (Score:5, Interesting)

      by andrewm ( 9862 ) <andrewm@netwinder.org> on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @03:29PM (#8647972) Homepage
      Well, it has hit 1973 leechers and 381 seeds so far (2354)... and is still growing.

      I think in this case the only downside would be tracker death, but that's why there is the multi-tracker "announce-list" extension (though this torrent doesn't use it).

      There are lots of seeds (~20%), the file is relatively small (152.8MB), and the pieces are quite small (256KB).

      It is nice to see BitTorrent being used for what it was designed: leagal mass distribution.
  • I'm laughing my head off. They have a great sense of humor. They're what the BBS anarchy-files scene would be, if it had cheap digital video camera and bittorrent.

  • Mirror List (Score:3, Informative)

    by Novanix ( 656269 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:35PM (#8647406) Homepage
    From: http://forums.thebroken.org/index.php?showtopic=85 88 [FAST] http://homepage.mac.com/kevinrose/thebroken_3.avi Scire: http://www.sourcehack.com/thebroken.htm [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading] mdubin: http://maxdubin.com/The_Broken_3.html [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading] CypherXero: http://store.mywebdriver.com/cypherxero/vi...thebr oken_3.avi thebroken server: http://www.thebroken.org/episodes/03/thebroken_3.a vi spaceghost7200: http://www.ghostcorp.net/downloads/thebroken_3.avi giraphe: http://giraphe.com/thebroken_3.avi Lone: http://www.files.gam3on.com/thebroken_3.avi Irongeek: http://orangutan.ius.edu/thebroken/thebroken_3.avi

    • Re:Mirror List (Score:2, Informative)

      by Novanix ( 656269 )
      Bah stupid html formatting:
      It is from: http://forums.thebroken.org/index.php?showtopic=8 5 88
      FAST]
      http://homepage.mac.com/kevinrose/thebr oken_3.avi

      Scire:
      http://www.sourcehack.com/thebroken.htm
      [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading]

      mdubin:
      http://maxdubin.com/The_Broken_3.html
      [Do not right click, you actually have to goto the page before downloading]

      CypherXero:
      http://store.mywebdriver.com/cypher xero/vi...thebr oken_3.avi

      thebroken server:
      http://www.thebroken.org/

  • Goddamnit! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by GoNINzo ( 32266 ) <GoNINzo.yahoo@com> on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:35PM (#8647409) Journal
    Now there are zero 100% completed people on this torrent because everyone is hitting 100% and disconnecting. This defeats the entire purpose of a torrent!

    At least do it for a half-hour after you've completed... that way someone else has a chance of finishing and covering for you after you leave!

    • WTF are you talking about? I'm seeing well over 200 seeds, and like a 7:1 leech:seed ratio, which is pretty decent, especially for a young torrent (it may have been around for a while, but the flood of /. users is new to it).
    • Just for kicks I uncapped my upload speed on my 100mbit server. I am pushing out only around ~1.4MB/sec (12-13Mbit). You'd think it could be higher...I wonder if there are some limitations within the BT protocol.
      • I wonder if there are some limitations within the BT protocol.

        The limitation isn't the protocl, but the trackers that coordinate all of the pieces moving around. Trackers aren't designed to handle this much traffic, and most will start to go belly up around 2K peers.
    • This speaks to a weakness in the torrent architecture. If, instead, they did a random offset rotational down load (i.e., the download would start at an arbitrary offset, then return to the beginning for each user) then this would not be an issue.

  • get over it (Score:3, Insightful)

    by seven5 ( 596044 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:36PM (#8647422)
    It sounds like every one here is just too cool for theBroken. Get over yourselves and knock the chip off your shoulders.
    • I agree. I have watched all the videos and while they are no 2600 it is still quality geek entertainment.

      The bits with Ramzi alone are worth the download. It is pure comedy gold.
      • Mind you, anything is better than Off The Hook. that show can put you to sleep rather easily. When is Rich the Rebel gonna call this time with a trivial fact about payphones?

  • why bt and not archive.org? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by akb ( 39826 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:37PM (#8647436)
    I'm curious why people prefer to do their own hosting of self made video files and not use archive.org. They have 500mbps of outgoing bandwidth and hundreds of terabytes of storage. Anyone can upload any amount of multimedia for hosting for free. They'll be around for quite a while longer than whatever rigged solution people come up with on their own.

    • Re:why bt and not archive.org? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Slashdot would DESTROY 500mbits. Are you kidding?
      • They've been /.'d before and survived. The dot com millionaire financing the project has said he'll pay for as much bandwidth and storage as is needed.

        Another plus I forgot to mention is that they'll host any size file. So people upload DVD quality versions of their material and lower quality (mpeg4, vcd, modem quality) get generated automatically. Its nice, some people want to wait for the quality others want it fast.

  • Divx Required?! (Score:5, Informative)

    by MukiMuki ( 692124 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @02:37PM (#8647437)
    Divx Required? Divx REQUIRED?

    No man, no.

    FFDShow : http://cutka.szm.sk/ffdshow/

    Can I hear a wassup?
  • An alternate site for thebroken.org is now http://theslashdotted.org [theslashdotted.org]

  • It's not thermite, it's run of the mill black powder.

    And they're idiots. not only was their premise of "destroy your data" poorly thought out (it's a switch sticking out the side of the laptop, with no safety), but it also probably didn't even damage the hard drive platters.

    If you spend your time watching this, at least realize that they are TV personalities who in no way represent real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue.
    • C'mon man.. If you'd watch the other videos, you'd see that the Ramzi segments are meant to be funny.
    • Ramzi's segment is a pure comedy bit... so you clearly didn't get the joke.

      TechTV did get a permit to play with some thermite outside of their studio once. Kevin Rose set a HD on fire for TSS, Morgan Webb set an overpriced Playstation controler that they gave a bad review to on X-Play ablaze, and "Paul the Scientist" melted a toy bunny for a poorly done Unscrewed bit.

    • Re:it's not thermite (Score:5, Insightful)

      by thx2001r ( 635969 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @03:21PM (#8647863) Homepage

      And they're idiots. not only was their premise of "destroy your data" poorly thought out (it's a switch sticking out the side of the laptop, with no safety), but it also probably didn't even damage the hard drive platters.

      Dude,

      It's a joke! If you've seen the rest of the episodes with Ramzi (he's in all of them so far), any segments with him in it are a joke (as in on purpose to get a laugh or two).

      Also, the whole thing kinda mildly mixes (some) tech reality with humorous stereotypes of Hackers (the dudes drink beer throughout the whole show... every show). Most conversations I've had with "real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue" would probably make extremely boring tv (Not to say that it isn't possible (never say never) to have a good show with real hackers/geeks/anyonewithaclue, but imho, it is less likely).

      Since this is an unofficial spin-off of TechTV's "Dark Tips" with Kevin Rose (Kevin in TheBroken), they are instinctively trying to be entertaining (sparing those who just want a laugh from a seminar in hacking windows (not to mention, sparing themselves from DMCA implications of getting that specific... everything is kinda vague on purpose)). I suspect that most of their regular viewers are also regular TechTV viewers (and probably not "real" hackers (no matter how bizzarly spelled)).

  • It reminds me of CmdrTaco, Hemos and CowboyNeal in the old (and still loved, by me at least) Geeks in Space.

    Just a bunch of guys with crazy ideas - first download and I'm hooked.

  • Torrents for first two episodes (Score:5, Informative)

    by sik0fewl ( 561285 ) <xxdigitalhellxxNO@SPAMhotmail.com> on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @03:08PM (#8647738) Homepage

    I was just taking a look at the torrent tracker info [homelinux.org] and it looks like their are now torrents up for episode 1 [homelinux.org] and episode 2 [homelinux.org].

  • ..and not only is the site still up, but my cable modem is hitting the rate I'm capped out downloading the .avi off their site. ...*eerie*... ..this server isn't normal.
  • Wholly entertaining! I could only take it in 5 minute intervals, though...

    It's hard to watch dorky white guys who think they're a) cool and b) black for more than a short stretch at a time. :)
  • It's more like Wayne's World with computers.. But, it's funny as hell.

    The video editing is pretty kick-ass too. It's amazing what you can do with a couple cheap camcorders and a decent PC.

    There were a couple segments that were not obvious how they created. They might have access to some more professional tools. One short clip was a fly-through of a file hierarchy - when telling how to strengthen Windows authentication. Another was an animation of the laptop, for the segment on destroying your data.

  • It's easier to tear something down than to build (Score:5, Insightful)

    by severed ( 82501 ) on Tuesday March 23, 2004 @06:33PM (#8649949) Homepage
    I'm the guy that created HaXXXor [haxxxor.com], and it's very interesting because while reading through this thread, I hear a lot of the same things said about these guys' video that was said about mine. It make me wonder if someone has hacked a version of beagle to spam discussion on hacker videos... :-)

    But seriously, here's my opinion. I'd like to think it counts for something being a producer and all...

    There seems to be two types of people that comment on projects like The Broken, and HaXXXor, and 2600, et al.

    First there's the people who say, wow that's cool.

    To them, I say: Thank You.

    Then there's the people who act as those the presence of any material, whether it's a video, or a print magazine or whatever is a direct threat to their way of life. Then the screaming begins.

    It's not the type of thing a REAL SYSADMIN should care about, it's only worth reading if you're 15 (obviously doesn't apply to HaXXXor), it's stupid, why bother, and on and on and on.

    I don't really see why the negative points are really valid, besides from the obvious fact that freedom of speech means freedom of all speach. Once you get past the freedom of speech part though, it really doesn't pan out.

    First, it's a good thing that people are making videos and books and magazines talking about this sort of thing. While it may be old hat to some people, there's a lot of other people out there that haven't even heard of this stuff. So the next time that you want to lament the masses for their ignorance, remember the heaps of criticism that anyone who produces any material that might help a few more people who aren't as L33t as you to bridge the gap.

    Second, for the people out there who throw out the massively insightful, this is stupid and pointless, why bother, type of remarks. Just remember, a lot of really cool things have been created because someone spent a lot of time working endlessly on something that was considered pointless, and then an occassion would come up with something that proved to be useful.

    Here's the deal, just remember that there are people actually creating these things. There's a person on the other side of the video, or book, or magazine, or whatever, that's put a lot of time and work in to it. If you think you can do better, then pick up a camera and give it a shot. But if you've never even tried doing something like that before, then why don't you try to appreciate the work that was put in to it, and what was done right, before you rush to tear it apart.

    In this community, it is common that a program that still needs a whole lot of work gets gushed over, but the moment someone makes a video it's an instant target? You really should be supporting these efforts (or at least constructively criticizing them). It's hard enough to be a small independent producer. However, it's small independent producers that are the competition to Hollywood and the big television networks. Do you prefer them to be the only people who talk about hackers?

    Anyways, that's my take on it...

    • Eh - I'll take a swing at this one.

      First off, I'd like to thank you for your work and extend that thanks to thebroken. It's been entertaining. There would probably be a lot less vitriol about if people maintained the perspective of this being entertainment first. However, this leads in to my intial point...

      People lose their sense of entertainment when they are fed a constant stream of gross distortions of what they are familiar with. Keep in mind that you are following in the rather gigantic footsteps

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