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ICANN Set To Broaden World of Domain Names 41

Posted by timothy
from the sounds-like-a-disney-attraction dept.
hypnosec writes "ICANN, as a step towards expanding global top level domain names, has approved a new Domain Name Registrar Accreditation Agreement that is expected to bring about waves of continued improvements in the domain name ecosystem (PDF). The new agreement is a result of efforts of over a year of negotiations that took place between ICANN and Registrar Stakeholders Group. The new agreement brings quite a few improvements, including making it mandatory for registrars to appoint a point-of contact for reporting abuse, and to establish registrar responsibilities for reseller compliance, enhancement of compliance tools, audit rights, and certification requirements, among others."
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ICANN Set To Broaden World of Domain Names

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  • why? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by lister king of smeg (2481612) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @02:40PM (#44143669)

    am I the only one that thinks this is useless complication that will make dns more of a pain to work with simply so icann can grab money.

    • Re:why? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 29, 2013 @02:55PM (#44143741)

      No, that is the normal thought for anyone who knows what DNS is. This is a money grab and evidence of our need to always feel we have to do something to justify our-self/our-group/our-job/our-ego instead of keeping the status quo. Also called change for the sake of change.

      • am I the only one that thinks this is useless complication that will make DNS more of a pain to work with simply so ICANN can grab money.

        If you thought anything else, you'd definitely be the only one...

    • The massive flood of new TLDs is nothing more than a money grab. They don't add any value at all. .tv? Really? .name? It's ridiculous.

      • Re:why? (Score:5, Informative)

        by sidthegeek (626567) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @03:17PM (#44143843)
        .tv is the ccTLD for Tuvalu. But they're a small island, so they sell those domains to anyone who wants to build video-related websites.
        • Re:why? (Score:4, Insightful)

          by hairyfeet (841228) <.bassbeast1968. .at. .gmail.com.> on Saturday June 29, 2013 @03:26PM (#44143889) Journal
          Now see those I have NO problem with, every country gets their own TLD and if they want to sell them for this or that service? NO problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is the crapflood of TLDs which is gonna be a fricking jackpot for squatters and scammers, I work for ordinary folks and its hard enough to teach them to watch what they type or click on and only stick to .com,.net, and .org. I can just imagine the "fun" I'm gonna have when all those are meaningless because you'll have everything from .fun to .smile, its gonna be hell for us guys in the trenches.
          • Has .edu become untrustable?
            • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

              by Anonymous Coward

              That depends on whether you consider for-profit colleges to be educational solutions or not. But in all seriousness, it bothers me that our local for-profit diploma mills get .edu address but neither all educational levels (such as school districts) nor those outside the US (such as University of Cambridge or McGill) can. If DNS was not so darn helpful and engrained, I'd say screw it and start over.

              • The joke is that when most people say "diploma mill" what they mean is "Any school less prestigious, however slightly, than the one I attended." But the term means something specific: fake schools that offer no instruction and just sell unrecognized credentials for cash. Many for profit schools may be expensive and unremarkable, but that doesn't mean they're diploma mills.

          • by SeaFox (739806)

            I work for ordinary folks and its hard enough to teach them to watch what they type or click on and only stick to .com,.net, and .org

            Idea a domain shouldn't be trusted just because it's from a foreign country sounds like something the DHS would say.

            Maybe you should be teaching these people that a domain doesn't stop at the dot and to learn the entire domain name for something to recognize it properly, instead of following a (rather ethnocentric sounding) maxim.

            • by hairyfeet (841228)

              Riiight, and maybe you can pay a couple hundred bucks so i can sit around for a few hours giving lectures to all these people that can't even tell the difference between a keyboard port and a mouse? thought so.

              High minded idealism is all well and good when you make 6 figures and have a college degree, i work with ordinary folks, the guys you probably wouldn't give the time to on a bet, and they don't have the hours to spare nor do i have the hours to give teaching how fricking DNS works when simply warnin

    • Re:why? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by rudy_wayne (414635) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @03:12PM (#44143809)

      ICANN is busy considering over 1800 requests for new gTLDs like .shop, .motocycle, .google, .youtube, and .lol.

      All of which are completely useless and will only be used for phishing/scams/spams/malwares.

      • Re:why? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by SuricouRaven (1897204) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @03:42PM (#44143959)

        Plus it's going to really screw with name resolution. When I type 'ommadon' into my browser, how is it supposed to know if I mean to google on the string 'ommadon'*, or visit the host names 'ommadon' on my local network**, or resolve the gTLD 'ommadon'***? Any of the three possibilities could be valid - or possibly even all three. And none of them is a consistantly correct default. Even worse, 'guessing' wrong could be a security vulnerability - by spoofing broadcast name resolution an attacker could trivially appear on a local network with a hostname of his choice, so every time someone tried to google on a common word they'd be redirected to his own server.

        *Cheaply-animated villain with a habbit of laughing evily a lot.
        **My NAS box.
        *** I can't imagine why anyone would register this, but it could happen.

        • When I type 'ommadon' into my browser, how is it supposed to know if I mean to google on the string 'ommadon'*, or visit the host names 'ommadon' on my local network**, or resolve the gTLD 'ommadon'***?

          If browser developers hadn't conflated the address field with the search field it wouldn't be a problem.

          Your DCP or static confg sets the search domains. If ommadon doesn't exist in any of those ( that is, not your NAS box ), try to resolve .ommadon. as a eponymous host in that gTLD.

        • use IPv6 for local network (and place em into the hosts file) - Enforce IPv6 Privacy Extensions and what not on the local net and use encryption (tls/https) to prevent spoofing

    • Re:why? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by SuricouRaven (1897204) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @03:33PM (#44143923)

      Well, they still havn't solved the homoglyph problem.

      You're quite right, though. It's just a big money-grab. There isn't a shortage of domains. There's a shortage of the really good domains, but adding more isn't going to help with that because it just means every major company is going to need to buy yet more variations of their name to prevent a prankster, porn site or competitor using them.

  • by girlintraining (1395911) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @04:04PM (#44144063)

    waves of continued improvements in the domain name ecosystem.

    ICANN is apparently using a broader definition of "improve"... because to date, very little that they've done has been anything but a cluster fuck of greed, incompetence, and blamestorming. Basically, everything I've come to expect from the committee decision-making process, as overseen by dozens of governments. And this latest "wave" of improvement is basically standardizing that process so that it is easier for corporations and governments to rapidly screw up the internet -- "accountability" in this context is code for "faster domain seizure".

  • New requirements ... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by PPH (736903) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @05:06PM (#44144365)

    ... for "reporting abuse, registrar responsibilities for reseller compliance, enhancement of compliance tools, audit rights, certification requirements, ...".

    Pile enough crap on and small enterprises and individuals won't be able to handle a domain on their own. Enter the management companies, who will extract fees for handling all of this overhead. Worse yet, it will push owners of domains who can no longer afford to maintain them to put them back on the market, where the big corporations can get their hands on them.

    I have known a number of people who registered valuable domains, not as squatters but small businesses who were smart or quick enough to get there first. Some have fallen for the trap of companies that 'manage' domains in return for signing over ownership. The result was their losing the domain when their 'manager' unilaterally determined the domain had more value on the market than the present user gave it.

    • by Yomers (863527)
      New requirements mostly for registrars, not for domain owners. According to TFA domain buyers will have to provide valid phone or address, and registrar will be responsible for verifying those.
    • As indicated in another reply, these requirements are for the *registrars* of the domain, not the *registrants*. What it means is that GoDaddy (or whoever your registrar is) will have a bit more work to do. Will they pass on the costs to end users? Maybe, but I doubt it's much. The end user might have a bit more difficulty entering fake contact information, since the registrars will be auditing that information better. Other than that there's no difference to the end user, at least from the things you quote
  • by WML MUNSON (895262) on Saturday June 29, 2013 @05:39PM (#44144507)
    For those that don't RTFA, there's a fairly important detail missing from the summary:

    Under the new agreement it would be mandatory for registrars to confirm the phone numbers or addresses of domain name buyers within 15 days of domain registration.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      That is probably the 2nd biggest point to take from this greedy money grab PR stunt, may even be the primary underlying reason. Just think of all the pirates the MAFIAA could grab from their houses, instead of simply taking their domain names?

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