New Legislation Would Crack Down On Online Criminal Havens 208
Hugh Pickens writes "The Hill reports that Senators Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) have introduced a bill that would penalize foreign countries that fail to crack down on cyber criminals operating within their borders. Under the bill the White House would have the responsibility of identifying countries that pose cyber threats and the president would have to present to Congress in an annual report. Countries identified as 'hacker havens' would then have to develop plans of action to combat cybercrimes or risk cuts to their US export dollars, foreign-direct investment funds and trade assistance grants. Numerous American employers, including Cisco, HP, Microsoft, Symantec, PayPal, eBay, McAfee, American Express, Mastercard and Visa, as well as Facebook, are supporting the Senators' legislation."
This is a bad legislation (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Criminal Havens (Score:1, Informative)
News flash, long time copy/pasta troll accidentally
posts logged in and reveals his uid.
Given that it is ethanol, no-one was surprised, he's known as atroll anyway.
AC to not undo richly deserved downmod.
Re:Welcome to the Empire (Score:2, Informative)
TFA summarized: "If people from your country attack us, and you won't do anything about it, we won't trade with you so much."
How horribly fascist.
Re:Welcome to the Empire (Score:2, Informative)
Nations routinely "attack" each-other economically over trade-related issues in the form of tariffs, duties, quotas, et al. Has nothing to do imperialism or your hatred for America.
Top 20 Countries Found to Have the Most Cybercrime (Score:5, Informative)
So apparently, if you add up all of Europe we'd match the US as the largest source of cybercrime. But the hypocrisy aside, Europe won't be the target of US sanctions.
Re:Welcome to the Empire (Score:5, Informative)
Oh goody! Let me guess, we get to define who the criminals are, right? Let's see, we need to exclude:
1) wars of aggression (Vietnam, Lebanon, Phillippines, Iraq, etc)
2) trade wars (Iraq, Cuba, pretty much all of central and south america)
3) covert coup d'etat (Iran, Iraq, pretty much all of central and south america)
4) aiding and abetting known terrorists (the CIA in Iraq, Iran, and pretty much all of central and south america)
And remember, if you so much as allow a single credit card to be stolen from an IP address from within your country, we reserve the right to use any of the above methods to exact justice.
Re:Welcome to the Empire (Score:5, Informative)
No. Take a look at the two pushing this bill: Hatch in particular has a history of supporting idiotic things like allowing copyright holders to destroy property of suspected infringers and Gillibrand has a hostory of taking large campaign contributions from parties directly related to legislation she was involved in. It therefore shouldn't be terribly surprising that these two were involved.
Re:What could possibly go wrong (Score:3, Informative)
And how is that supposed to happen? The US is by far the biggest exporter of money in the world. The reason this legislation would work is because the US can withhold that money to coerce other countries to comply. It doesn't work the other way around, because the other countries don't have leverage against the US.
One could argue that China (and Japan, actually) has leverage in the form of all the US debt they hold. But if China leveraging that debt against the US was a good thing for them, they'd have done it already. Truth is, China would hurt themselves as much as the US in the process.
Re:Welcome to the Empire (Score:3, Informative)
It's not like Europe or Canada told the US that they have to adopt that model. We offer an example. Follow or do your own thing, not like we treat you any different if you don't.
Did anyone tell the US "Get your health care act together or we'll stop trading with you"? Did I miss something?
Yes, I think it's a good idea that the US get a health care system that I deem superior. But it's not like I, or any country I know of, makes that a requirement to consider the US a "good" country. There are other qualities in a country that are more important than how they handle their health care.