CERN, the Big Bang and Impact On the IT Industry 169
whencanistop writes "ComputerWeekly have put together a nice short guide (with lots of links) of what is going on at CERN. They've got a nice slant though on what this big bang experiment is going to mean for the IT Industry. Interesting slant on the world's largest grid and the database clustering technology that they are using. They have also picked up on the amusing rap video by CERN's scientists that has been wandering around YouTube."
Excellent rap! (Score:5, Insightful)
Ahem (Score:5, Insightful)
From TFA:
I really don't get the "I'm to cool to RTFA" thing myself, I find willful ignorance kinda undesirable.
Re:Sys Admin at CERN (Score:5, Insightful)
And sysadminning for scientists is a goddamn nightmare. I'd just like you to imagine expert Fortran programmers who can't actually work a computer. And are way smarter than you in every way except ones that involve communicating with humans.
Re:What it means to IT. (Score:4, Insightful)
It'll certainly result in new technologies for dealing with this stuff becoming cheaper. It's the people who have to do goddamn ridiculous things this year and have billions lying around to do so who push things forward for us cheapskates.
Re:We need more evil scientists (Score:3, Insightful)
There's a difference between "great comedy material" and repeating the same damn joke 18,000 times a day. Of course since this site is populated by nerds, the social skills needed to understand that are lacking.
Re:You'd think the Scientific angle... (Score:3, Insightful)
The scientific advances from the LHC won't be coming for another few years. The IT impacts are happening now. I'm sure we'll get a new news blitz when the LHC starts to actually collide particles at high energies (when it breaks Fermi Labs records in a year or so) and then yet another when the first import preliminary results come in (preliminary because it will take another year after that to accumulate the statistics for definite results).
The LHC has been in construction for what, 15 years now? It is about time they get to have a party. Actually, we had parties for pretty much every tiny milestone, champagne is cheap there. But this is a bit bigger.
Re:We need more evil scientists (Score:3, Insightful)
I have to deal with morons trying to run big business critical databases on Windows on almost daily basis and the OS is so badly unsuited for the task that there should be a bounty on those who sold them the solution.
Re:Please please! (Score:2, Insightful)
Calling it the "god particle" makes a mockery of religion, and so is completely compatible with atheism.
Re:am i the only one angry... (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes, it is a silly question. Except for the extreme amount of indirection taking place, it's akin to a mugger holding a gun to your head and shouting, "give me $200, it's essential!" When you deny the request they respond that, since you're not an [insert random title here], you wouldn't understand - then take it anyway.
If you don't like taxes, move to a country where there aren't any.
1. I think we're all agreed that it's high priced, yes?
Absolutely not. Where do you get your metric from?
2. Sensationalism in the everyday sense - remembering that my OP was motivated by a bloody rap video
No, your OP provided a link to a rap video. It's an amusing and educational video. No-one is suggesting that video is worth billions of dollars.
- comes from the fact that they built the biggest, most expensive structure evar, made no big deal about it until soon before launch, and are now milking the press time.
What a load of crap. The papers picked up a story about the end of the world, which is what sells newspapers, and suddenly the LHC is in the news. The reason it's caught the imagination is nothing to do with CERN's publicity or lack thereof.
In the philosophical sense, the whole thing is sensationalist by putting so much emphasis on experiencing xome aspect of the sub-microscopic world to derive knowledge about it.
You're a mathematician -- I wouldn't expect you to understand.
3. I can't say whether "more esoteric work" is bullcrap, and I'm not saying it's all bad science either - but see point (2) above. I'm not enough of an egotist to assume that undergraduate physics gives me enough to judge worth - indeed, many scientists don't even realise the full value of their work in their own lifetimes.
What I am saying is that the framework for justifying funding of much so-called academic work is fucked.
The reason you can't, as a mathematician, command budgets like these is that you don't need to. It's not a value judgment -- get over it.
Re:am i the only one angry... (Score:3, Insightful)
CERN has nothing to do with the EU, except insofar as it is partially in it, and shares some of the same member states.