Humans Not Evolved for IT Security 302
Stony Stevenson writes to tell us that at the recent RSA Conference security expert Bruce Schneier told delegates that human beings are not evolved for security in the modern world, especially when it comes to IT. "He told delegates at the 2007 RSA Conference that there is a gap between the reality of security and the emotional feel of security due to the way our brains have evolved. This leads to people making bad choices. 'As a species we got really good at estimating risk in an East African village 100,000 years ago. But in 2007 London? Modern times are harder.'"
Bad Analogies Abound (Score:5, Interesting)
I know I'm really coming off as a jerk when I say this but I don't think this article helped me in anyway. All I saw was someone over simplifying a complex problem--thereby making them seem smarter to the people they were explaining it to.
Don't read this article, it has nothing to offer you. If you don't know this subject, I believe this article will only add to your confusion and lack of understanding.
It's the money (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Bad Analogies Abound (Score:5, Interesting)
I think mostly he's just pointing all this out as background to the tendency to poorly appreciate risk. He's basically saying, "People apply more worry to splashy things that aren't likely to happen, and therefore we have these huge data breaches because who cares about SSNs when the terrorists could be blowing up a nuke plant?"
The only place where I think he's totally off base is calling the brain "a patchwork". It's not, in fact. It's extremely finely tuned to do what we need it to do...It makes us ferociously competitive animals, and that is proven rather than disproven, by all the security problems that we've been having. If we weren't competitive, we wouldn't have problems. The fact that not everyone works at the same level is irrelevant.
What a pile of carp (Score:4, Interesting)
1) A lot of people are either stupid or uneducated.
2) A lot of people don't bother to think.
3) A Lot of people are sheep and believe what they're told by marketing.
4) A lot of people are lazy.
I guarantee you this covers the vast majority of the problems with IT security. It's not biological evolution, though you could make a good argument for societal devolution being the problem.
Re:Lets think about this. (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm kinda scared now.
Re:Stupid Crap (Score:5, Interesting)
That always amazes me to this day.
IT GUY: Your PC is insecure.
AVERAGE JOE: I don't really know how to properly secure it.
IT GUY: Dumbfuck.
Yeah, great approach. Gosh, why don't we teach kids that way?
TEACHER: What's 147 divided by 7?
FIRST GRADER: You haven't taught us division yet.
TEACHER: Dumbfuck.
Re:Bad Analogies Abound (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Bad Analogies Abound (Score:3, Interesting)
The evolution argument is disproven by Schneier himself; how could he be thinking about it if we hadn't already evolved to make it possible?
Schneiere isn't humanity, he's just Schniere. One guy can have the skills and ability to do something, while the vast majority of others do not. Anyway, I think he's really trying to say that risk assessment of the modern world doesn't come naturally to people, like it did to risk assessment of being eaten by a tiger 100,000 years ago.
I don't know if the evolutionary theory about risk assessment is right, but I really doubt you do either. Neither of us have any data to show much of anything.
Anyway, I think you're trying to take his comments too far. It seems to me Schneire's ideas are really more of a way of thinking about why people are bad at assessing risk rather than a predictive theory that can be picked apart and examined. The ideas aren't really well developed enough for that kind of assessment.
east african village (Score:3, Interesting)
He drew pie charts labled "threat model" where 99% of the chart was "hyenas."
Today, our threat models are a bit more complex.
http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/DV/NotesCFP2K.html#Steph [anu.edu.au]
junpei wikipedia [wikipedia.org]
Re:Lets think about this. (Score:5, Interesting)
If somebody breaks into my computer, will I die? No. Will I become sick of temporarily disabled? No. Will I lose money? Possible, but unlikely, and in any case the insurance company will get them back for me. Should I therefore hire a security consultant? NO!
I believe most people get this analysis right.
More importantly, we are unable to plan for long-term security. If the planets ecosystem is under attack from global warming, creating and/or spreading lots of new diseases (harming us, our food, or in some other indirect way), do we stop emitting pollutants contributing to global warming? No. Do we invest money into biological research and education so we can handle the new diseases? No. Do we invest significantly in technological countermeasures, such as painting Sahara white, building dams against floods or the rising ocean, or even storing CO2? No. Do we do anything at all? Not really, unless you count selling quotas to each other.