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Dateline NBC Mole Outed At DefCon 573

An anonymous reader writes "Dateline NBC allegedly attempted to infiltrate the DefCon hackerfest with a producer using a hidden camera. The show hoped to tape hackers admitting to illegal activities, but DefCon got wind of the plot and displayed the would-be-mole's photo before every presentation. Dateline refused to deny the planned infiltration. 'All journalists covering DefCon sign an agreement upon registering for the conference that outlines the rules, but the DefCon organizers say the mole apparently registered as a regular attendee, thereby bypassing the legal agreement. Dateline NBC is best known for its controversial To Catch A Predator series, which uses hidden cameras to tape men who are allegedly seeking to have sex with minors they met online.'"
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Dateline NBC Mole Outed At DefCon

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  • Hmmmm (Score:5, Informative)

    by atari2600 ( 545988 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @07:47PM (#20108871)
  • Re:Brilliant (Score:5, Informative)

    by Wizy ( 38347 ) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `chgtaggerg'> on Friday August 03, 2007 @07:48PM (#20108885) Journal
    Way to read the story. Your "him" is a "her".
  • best known? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, 2007 @07:51PM (#20108933)
    Dateline NBC is best known for its controversial To Catch A Predator series, which uses hidden cameras to tape men who are allegedly seeking to have sex with minors they met online.

    Best known for that? I think they are best known for rigging a pickup truck to explode [whatreallyhappened.com] when they crashed it so that it would look good on tv.

    Their credibility is a wee bit low.
  • Re:Despicable (Score:2, Informative)

    by eriklou ( 1027240 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @07:55PM (#20108953)
    Very NSFW. ^^
  • by WilliamSChips ( 793741 ) <full...infinity@@@gmail...com> on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:09PM (#20109085) Journal
    4chan deserves any slander it can get. 4channers are the scum of the internet, and the sooner that site is taken off the web, the better.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:47PM (#20109379)
    visit http://tinyurl.com/preview.php [tinyurl.com] and set this preference via cookie, i personally can't stand clicking on a link not knowing it's destination, thanks mainly to years at slashdot
  • by MillionthMonkey ( 240664 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:48PM (#20109383)
    We have a justice system based on punishing people AFTER they commit a crime not before

    But soliciting a minor for sex is a crime.
  • Re:Brilliant (Score:3, Informative)

    by UncleTogie ( 1004853 ) * on Friday August 03, 2007 @08:59PM (#20109457) Homepage Journal
    Well said, and I have NO idea why you got modded 'bait because of it. Personally, I'd suggest the AC also research the difference 'tween "white-hat" and "black-hat" before arguing further.
  • by Jackie_Chan_Fan ( 730745 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @09:04PM (#20109499)
    Exactly. There is no real crime there. I'm quite suspect of Datelines intentions. Dateline has a vested interest in enticing these people to show up at their "house". Their tv show depends on the influx of guys showing up.

    Some of the folks that show up definatly have had records... but some folks are first timers... and no one even knows if they would have gone through with it, or not... Which they couldnt have anyways because there was no actual child invovled.

    It is a TV show that makes lots of money. I'm suspect of their intentions.
  • by tiqui ( 1024021 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:32PM (#20110139)
    Here we go again... a simpleton knee-jerk anti Fox News rant. I think it was NBC that stuffed a model rocket motor into a pickup truck gas tank a few years ago to demonstrate that a particular brand of pickup truck had dangerous gas tanks. Seems to me that it's the "mainstream" press that makes things up with reckless abandon. Kindly take the leftist hyperventilating over to the DailyKos where substance does not matter and phony accusations are the norm. Fox News is far from perfect, but they are less biased than the big three. CBS makes up stories about Bush, ABC has Bill & Hillary's campaign man run their politics show, NBC has Tip O'Neil's guy run their political show, NBC uses a guy who makes personal appearances goosestepping across the stage wearing an O'Reilly mask and doing Hitler salutes as one of their "unbiased" news guys... but you hate Fox News. I'll agree that Fox is terribly biased to the right on the day that fewer than 75% of the journalists at the other networks are registered Democrats. The funny thing is how many of the folks at Fox News have turned out to be donors to the Democrats.
  • youtube video of it (Score:5, Informative)

    by bigbigbison ( 104532 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:48PM (#20110267) Homepage
    There is a video of her outing on youtube [youtube.com].
  • Calm Down (Score:4, Informative)

    by Swift2001 ( 874553 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @10:56PM (#20110313)
    It's the media doing its job. If no one admitted illegal actions, the hidden camera would have ended up in the garbage. If someone actually confessed illegal actions, then more power to Dateline. One of the saddest moments came about 1995, when ABC used a hidden camera to show that a food market was routinely selling old meat and fish. They sued after the show came out, and won! Well, good-bye to exposing wrongdoing. And 60 Minutes lost their suit to the tobacco companies, even though Jeffery Wigant was telling the truth.
  • by postmodern modulus I ( 994339 ) on Friday August 03, 2007 @11:42PM (#20110567) Homepage
    The Threat Level blog has just posted an update on this story. Apparently Michelle Madigan was hoping to "out" an undercover Federal Agent.

    According to DefCon staff, Madigan had told someone she wanted to out an undercover federal agent at DefCon. That person in turn warned DefCon about Madigan's plans. Federal law enforcement agents from FBI, DoD, United States Postal Inspection Service and other agencies regularly attend DefCon to gather intelligence on the latest techniques of hackers. DefCon holds an annual contest called Spot the Fed, in which attendees out people in the audience they think are undercover federal agents. The contest is good-natured, but the feds who get caught are generally ones who don't mind getting caught.

    DefCon staff say that Madigan was asked four times -- two times on the phone and two times at the conference -- if she wanted to obtain press credentials, but she declined.

    DefCon staff lured her to a large hall telling her that the Spot the Fed contest was in session and that she could get a picture of an undercover federal agent at the contest. When she sat down, Jeff Moss, DefCon's founder, announced that they were changing the game. Instead of Spot the Fed, they were going to play Spot the Undercover Reporter and then announced, "And there's one in here right now." Madigan, realizing she'd been had, jumped from her seat and bolted out the door with reporters carrying cameras chasing after her through the parking lot and to her car.
  • by Pantero Blanco ( 792776 ) on Saturday August 04, 2007 @12:34AM (#20110885)

    He responded to the sting, and no reason exists to mourn his choice to "self-rehabilitate." His family won't see it that way,but consider that a result of family bonding. It's common enough in criminal cases for the family to spew excuses for the perp.

    Both the original post and the linked article make it clear that he did NOT go to the sting.

    I've watched the show before; they made a point of telling the culprits that they passed the line the moment they walked in the door, that they could have turned around, etc.

    I'm not pissed with the police for going to arrest him, and presumably they can't tell Dateline to sod off because of Press rights, but Dateline broke their own rules here. They should have reported him to the police for the lesser crime that he presumably DID commit, and left it alone.
  • by someone1234 ( 830754 ) on Saturday August 04, 2007 @02:34AM (#20111301)
    1. the blondie wasn't there to spot hacker terrorists, she wanted to catch undercover FEDs. 2. she was given a chance which she declined. I bet it was quite a laugh. "According to DefCon staff, Madigan had told someone she wanted to out an undercover federal agent at DefCon. That person in turn warned DefCon about Madigan's plans. Federal law enforcement agents from FBI, DoD, United States Postal Inspection Service and other agencies regularly attend DefCon to gather intelligence on the latest techniques of hackers. DefCon holds an annual contest called Spot the Fed, in which attendees out people in the audience they think are undercover federal agents. The contest is good-natured, but the feds who get caught are generally ones who don't mind getting caught. DefCon staff say that Madigan was asked four times -- two times on the phone and two times at the conference -- if she wanted to obtain press credentials, but she declined. DefCon staff lured her to a large hall telling her that the Spot the Fed contest was in session and that she could get a picture of an undercover federal agent at the contest. When she sat down, Jeff Moss, DefCon's founder, announced that they were changing the game. Instead of Spot the Fed, they were going to play Spot the Undercover Reporter and then announced, "And there's one in here right now." Madigan, realizing she'd been had, jumped from her seat and bolted out the door with reporters carrying cameras chasing after her through the parking lot and to her car."
  • Re:Dear Dumbass. (Score:0, Informative)

    by gwbennett ( 988163 ) on Saturday August 04, 2007 @05:55AM (#20111897) Homepage
    especially since pedophilia is an attraction to pre-teens (g12 and under) and the correct term would be hebephilia or ephebephilia anyway.

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