Looking Beyond Vista To Fiji and Vienna

Vinit wrote in with an article that describes Microsoft's strategy for future versions of Windows. It begins: "As we all know that Microsoft Vista was originally scheduled to be released in 2003, after two years of Windows XP, but it got delayed by over five years due to various reasons. Definitely, Vista is very very improved OS over the previous versions, but the delayed in the launch has cost Microsoft, billions of dollars. Now the question at the moment is, what exactly after Vista? Microsoft can't afford to wait another five years for an operating system. People are becoming more aware of the choices they have, and Linux is no longer a hobbyist OS, and that day isn't far away when it becomes simple enough to be a viable alternative to Windows. The competition is fierce. That is why, to stay at the top, Microsoft has planned a 'Vista R2', codenamed 'Fiji' which will be released some time in 2008. And after Fiji, there will be Windows 'Vienna'. Windows Fiji, will not be a totally different OS from Vista; but it will be an add-on. Whereas Vienna will be totally different from Vista."

Fiji

[Anonymous Coward]

'Vista R2', codenamed 'Fiji' which will be released some time in 2008

Why not in Fiji?

Simple mis-understanding

[Loco Moped]

Fiji is where Bill plans to take his money and retire. Nothing to do with an OS.

Except...

[betterunixthanunix]

...by the time Fiji is available, our bones will have long turned to dust...

Summary:

[techmuse]

Fiji: Microsoft gets an extension from the teacher to turn in its Vista homework late.

Vienna: Microsoft takes a philosophy class. Wonders why it did everything a certain way for the past 15 years. Gets high. Oooo...look at all the pretty colors and new interface paradigms.

Windows, vista

[Talonator]

And I hear it's a good, operating system, but it has, some stunning, similarities to OS X. Also, the, author of the snippet, uses a few too, many, commas, and comes up, with wonderfully original, sentence, structures.

Who wrote this?

[glwtta]

Definitely, Vista is very very improved OS over the previous versions, but the delayed in the launch has cost Microsoft, billions of dollars.

I'm not looking for Shakespeare here, but the submitter is what, eight?

Re:See Apple for details

[WrongSizeGlass]

Once you get your basic design right ...

Please let us know when Microsoft accomplishes this part.

Re:Fiji

[Anonymous Coward]

Wrong! Get it right, Vienna is *not* vaporware; it's sausageware! Sheesh, some people...

Re:Microsoft: *kicks dead horse*

[uhlume]

...a glorified service pack that you have to pay for.

Yet another Apple innovation, appropriated by Microsoft. Have they no shame?

Re:See Apple for details

[kfg]

This is where Microsoft failed, their security model was flawed, so with Vista they've fixed it (or so they say).

Yeah, you used to be allowed full access to your own files and do with them as you please.

We'll have no more of that nonsense.

KFG

Bad Omen

[Target Drone]

Aren't windows code names traditionally cities? The fact that they are using a contry name for an upgraded version of Vista that experienced a military coup d'état [wikipedia.org] a year ago (while vista development was in full swing) makes me wonder if this is a bad omen.

Re:Five years?

[kfg]

How do they figure five years? 2003 to 2007, that's four years at best. . .

The author obviously lacks opposable thumbs:

"One, Two, Three, Four, more than Five"

KFG

Re:Who wrote this?

[TheRaven64]

You two were the only ones that noticed. The rest of us have learned to skip straight from the headline to the comments by now.

English, motherfucker; do you speak it??

[Anonymous Coward]

Even Babblefish, could, translate better than, this if it, were completely broken on, a bad day.

Re:Simple mis-understanding

[Anonymous Coward]

Does he want to start a farm there and marry Christine Kochanski?

Timeline for Windows Vienna

[jonadab]

And here's the timeline for 'Vienna':
2007 Q1 Vista released; work on Vienna begins.
2007 Q4 Microsoft announces Vienna will contain innovative new filesystem
2008 Q2 Microsoft projects release date for 'Vienna' as late 2010 or early 2011
2008 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna will revolutionize the internet desktop
2009 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna's filesystem will make search irrelevant
2009 Q4 Microsoft projects release date for Vienna as second half of 2011
2010 Q1 Microsoft announces Vienna will be inherently more secure than Vista
2010 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna's new API will make developers' jobs easy
2010 Q4 Microsoft announces Vienna will have built-in internet telephony (VOIP)
2011 Q2 Microsoft projects release date for Vienna in early 2012
2011 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna will work with next-generation security hardware
2012 Q1 Microsoft announces partnership with wireless internet provider to enhance Vienna's
      internet telephony, allowing users to go "unplugged"
2012 Q2 Microsoft projects Vienna release date pushed back to 2013
2012 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna's wireless internet telephony will make cellphones obsolete
2013 Q1 Microsoft announces Vienna's wireless internet telephony will be more secure than cellphones
2013 Q3 Microsoft announces Vienna kernel will be most secure OS kernel ever
2013 Q4 Microsoft projects Vienna release date in early 2014
2014 Q1 Microsoft announces the new filesystem may not be ready for RTM but will ship
      just after Vienna in a service pack
2014 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna public beta will be forthcoming later in the year
2014 Q3 Microsoft announces the new developer API will be spun off as a separate project from Vienna
2014 Q4 Microsoft promises Vienna release no later than 2015 Q2
2015 Q1 Deal with wireless internet company falls through
2015 Q2 Microsoft announces innovative filesystem will be in release after Vienna
2015 Q2 Microsoft announces Vienna will still feature "unplugged" internet telephony,
      but user will have choice of third-party wireless providers
2015 Q3 Microsoft releases limited beta of Vienna to select individuals and companies
2015 Q3 Reviews of Vienna start coming out; reviewers note internet telephony not present
2015 Q4 Microsoft announces final product name for Vienna will be Windows Fiesta
2015 Q4 Microsoft confirms internet telephony will not be ready to ship with first release
2016 Q1 Microsoft releases public beta of Fiesta to a wider audience
2016 Q2 Microsoft announces final release date for Fiesta in November; nobody believes it
2016 October Microsoft announces Windows Fiesta will be available to select customers in
      November, retail version will ship in January
2016 November Microsoft announces Fiesta now available to select customers
2017 January Microsoft actually releases Windows Fiesta

Oh, Vienna!

[hachete]

MS don't know what will be in Vienna, because Apple haven't invented it yet. This means nothing to me.

Re:Simple mis-understanding

[Asztal_]

Yeah, it's his five-year plan. And he's going to get a sheep and a cow, and breed horses.

Re:Fiji

[diskis]

Wow. It's also a capital in a country in europe. You do know where europe is?
Founded some 2500 years ago. Not like it sprung up over night, like the maybe dozen Viennas you got in USA

Re:Where's Saddam?

[sugapablo]

Any story about Saddam's execution on /. would most likely just be people debating the quality (or lack there of) of the knot used on the rope he hung from. (Looked pretty mean!)

Re:I think Mark Twain said it best

[melikamp]

Yeah it sounds more like Oscar Wilde.

Re:Fiji

[Kyle_Katarn-(ISF)]

IIRC, Black-something is supposed the last version to carry the Windows brand. That's not to say, however, that it will be Microsoft's last OS.

Re:As you said

[neoform]

No no! Don't question their dreams for speech recognition!

I can TOTALLY picture myself in a crowded air port entering my vpn password using the amazing voice recognition they're touting.

Re:Fiji

[iminplaya]

Or maybe "Windows Atlantis"?

Re:New Generation? I Think So

[MrNaz]

Me: Computer, write me a slashdot post on this topic.
Computer: Affirmative. Post written: "Sharks with friggin' laser beams are welcoming you to Soviet Russia"
AI Moderators: "Joke detected." +5 Funny

Re:Except...

[ceeam]

fIji. fUji. Wakatta?

Wait. What?

[The MAZZTer]

Whereas Vienna will be totally different from Vista."

Wait... are they already admitting Vista was a bad move? ;)

Does the author speak english

[ChaoticLimbs]

Or just sentence fragments. Sometimes it can be so difficult. To tell if the author is simply illiterate. That he can't tell where commas go. Or sometimes just spaces. That makes it confusing. As well as looking dumb.

Re:Fiji

[try_anything]

I think they're just being honest about their goals. Retirement is probably the best thing about working on Windows.

Re:Fiji

[Spokehedz]

Arnold: Lister you are a nothing.

Lister: I'm not a nothin', I got me plan.

Arnold: What's that? The plan to be the slobbiest entity in the entire universe?

Lister: No. Me 5 year plan. You see, I'm going to do two more trips, and I've been saving up all me pay.

Arnold: Since when?

Lister: Since always. That's why I never buy any soap or deodorant or socks or anything like that, ya know? Anyway, I'm going to by myself a little farm on Fiji, and I'm gonna get a sheep and a cow... And breed horses.

Arnold: With a sheep and a cow?

Lister: No, with horses and horses.

Arnold: On Fiji?

Lister: Yea, the prices there are unbelievable.

Arnold: Yes, that's because they had a volcanic eruption and now most of Fiji is 3 feet below sealevel.

Lister: It's only 3 feet. They can wade. That's why the animals are going to have to be quite tall.

Arnold: Nice plan Lister. Excellent plan. Brilliant plan Lister! What about the sheep? What are you going to do, buy them water wings? Fit them with stilts? Better still, you can crossbreed them with dolphins and have leaping mutton. (Makes sheep sounds, then splash sounds)

Lister: You can get a drainage grant these days.

Arnold: Why bother lister? You can become the first man to produce wet-look knitwear.

Lister: Look. This is why I never, ever said anything to you 'cause I knew you'd say something like this.

Arnold: Lister, you got the brain of a cheese sandwich. Morning Farmer lister, I'm just popping down to the shops in my submarine. Can I buy you anything?

Re:Fiji

[M. Baranczak]

Windows code names seem to come from resorts.

They should call the next one "Fawlty Towers", in that case. It would give a good idea of the attitude that Microsoft takes towards its customers.

Microsoft's plan to integrate wine

[gringer]

Sure, I'm grasping at straws here, but...

Vienna, in the local language, is spelt 'Wein'. If you pronounce that as an English speaker, you might say it in the same way you say 'Wine'. Wine [winehq.org], as a few people know, is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix. Perhaps Microsoft don't like the idea of such software, and want to produce a product that confuses users of Wine. Or maybe they'll do away with their development line completely, and Wine will become the next version of Windows.

Then Microsoft will be able to expand out the acronym to something like:

"Windows Emulator, it's not!" or "Windows Is Not an Emulator"!

Re:Fiji

[LittleBigLui]

vienna is a us city.

Ah c'mon. If you steal our cities, steal Klagenfurt (feel free to take the whole of Carinthia) but leave our capital alone.

Sincerely,
A Concerned Austrian.

Re:Fiji

[LuxMaker]

Blackcomb was the name, now it's morphed into "Vienna." Windows code names seem to come from resorts.

Actually it morphed into a "Vienna" sausage and we should all just bend over now. ;)

Microsoft's naming convention

[jd]

...makes perfect sense. The respective locations are where the execs plan on getting drunk and laid when the complaints in the US reach critical mass.

Re:Fiji

[Necrotica]

Windows code names seem to come from resorts. I believe that what we call "heavy irony," as Windows is neither relaxing nor fun.

I myself only install Microsoft operating systems as a last resort.

Re:Geared for speach recognition

[geobeck]

Speech recognition is one of Vista's best implemented features. In fact, the other day I was talking to my aunt...

Delete that.

Let's set so double the killer delete select all.

Damn!

Re:Fiji

[s4m7]

If you think Vista is just a GUI refresh, you haven't been paying attention.

Yeah they also built in the google desktop search, caught up (sort of) with linux and mac security from five years ago, and stuck in a bunch of Treacherous Computing and Digital Restrictions Managment.

Hell of an upgrade.

Re: Windows Klagenfurt!!

[TaoPhoenix]

Redmond, Washington. April 2009:

"We are announcing the Christmas Season release of Windows Klagenfurt. Designed as the replacement to what was code named Vienna, we wanted to draw upon the more phonetically inclusive nature of that town as a metaphor to reflect the diversity of rich experience to be found in this newest Windows release. ..."

***

Remark from Steve Jobs:
"Windows Klagenfurt, hmm? So they picked a name that's as easy to pronounce as it is to maintain the security."