Monad Shell Removed From Vista 330
hggs writes "According to Stephen Toulouse at Microsoft, because of the possible virus threat that targets Monad the shell will not be included in Windows Vista. CNet is reporting that, even though Monad is not to be included on Vista, it will be included on a major server operating system for servers from Microsoft. Codenamed Longhorn server, that edition is due out by 2007." Update: 08/06 04:45 GMT by Z : As Mr. Toulouse states here, the submission here adds one and one and gets three. Monad hasn't been in Vista for about two months. The CNet article is clarifying a previous report stating that Monad could potentially be the first source of viruses in an OS which incorporated it. The interesting news about Monad in the server edition was obscured by the factually incorrect submission, which at first blush seemed to make sense. Mea Culpa.
FP (Score:2, Insightful)
I guess microsoft figures that only people who spend several thousand for a computer deserve even moderately capable tools.
Oh well. More and more reason to not bother upgrading, and gear towards an eventual switch to Linux someday.
Oh yeah- that will do a lot of good (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Oh yeah- that will do a lot of good (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Oh yeah- that will do a lot of good (Score:3, Insightful)
Remember that virus use "generic" tecnology, things that everybody has, IOW generic windows installations. If everybody has a powerful shell script like monad it'll be easier for virus writers to write virus. If it's optional, it will not be so dangerous because virus writers won't write virus for something that is not widespread, and still people who wants it will be happy because they'll be able to install it and use it
If only it was VMS... (Score:5, Insightful)
Where's our versioning file system? Where's our ironclad clustering? (Someone who's a real VMS geek can probably offer more examples)
Micrsoft hires Dave Cutler, who wrote VMS, and a bunch of the DEC engineers, has them write a brand spankin' new OS to Rule Them All, and they try to sell some retarded crapheap that doesn't have some of the best features of the '80's.
Of course, the perfectly sensible reason they're selling a crapheap is that performance mattered more than a secure microkernel architecture (which NT, at one point, supposedly was), and backwards compatability with win32 is the only thing keeping people running to back to MS like a crackhead to his dealer.
Give me my good 'ol 70's Unix. The '80's died, and the 90's just won't.
Re:FP (Score:2, Insightful)
What a cop out excuse too. Oh gee, the scripting language is vulnerable to malicious programmers in the same way every programming language is.
Wow is the headline WRONG! (Score:5, Insightful)
The author is pretty clear that the reported virii had ZERO effect on the choice to include monad or not.
Yet somehow the submitter was able to conclude "...because of the possible virus threat that targets Monad the shell will not be included in Windows Vista.". Will wonders ever cease to exist!
Re:Slide more and more... (Score:3, Insightful)
MOD PARENT UP (Score:5, Insightful)
Read up: MS isn't 100% bad. They have some good stuff and good policies sometimes. Don't complain about them point blank to improve your ego, you'll be the kid that called wolf too many times.
In later News (Score:2, Insightful)
Latest reports are that all keyboard devices will be prevented from attaching to the new Microsoft operating system for users.
Server systems which have no need for such a device will still be able to use it, possibly in ways so that easier crafting of shell macro's as long as there not called virus.bat
Internal memo (Score:2, Insightful)
Any bets on what goes out next..... (Score:2, Insightful)
Slashdot sensationalism overflow recently. (Score:3, Insightful)
I understand the nature of slashdot. I used to be one of the linux zealots prowling the area. I read the front page and, very rarely, the articles. Not quite sure what made me do it this time. But letting disinformation such as this leak to the front page scares me, when useful stories from people are ignored all the time.