Tor - The Yin or the Yang? 139
An anonymous reader writes "Whitedust is running a interesting article on Tor, The Onion Router project sponsored by the EFF. Tor aims to offer anonymous internet use. Once sponsored by the Naval Research Lab with support from DARPA, it is now managed by The Free Haven Project. Although Tor claims to improve safety and security, the article goes into detail on how Tor can be used as a anonymous attack platform."
Just have to say it... (Score:1, Informative)
Cultural Idiots (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Cultural Idiots (Score:3, Informative)
I say negative outweighs the positive. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Cultural Idiots (Score:3, Informative)
It's the "Yin and Yang", or the 'Yin-Yang' as I understand it-- two opposite pieces of the same energy, both integral and complementary to each other. They cannot be removed from the whole, or the whole is destroyed.
Using the word 'or' actually distorts the original meaning-- 'or' imply two different pieces, the Yin OR Yang-- with we're really talking about one thing.
Yes, this sounds pedantic, but I think it's actually an important difference.
Attack platform? Give me a break. (Score:1, Informative)
Re:the need (Score:5, Informative)
Well for example, it can be used by dissidents to safely express their political views, be it in the PRC, Burma or the United States...
Re:Of course it can be abused (Score:3, Informative)
So avoid facism, but retain your ability to punish those to actually do break the law.
Latency hurts, however... (Score:5, Informative)
B: You can't quake through Tor. Tor only supports TCP, and it adds a fair bit of latency to boot.
Re:anon attack platform? yup! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:the need (Score:3, Informative)
Tell that Kin Yu Jong who's being at risk of being arrested any moment now because he dared write "uh, I dunno, but maybe Tiananmen wasn't so groovy after all" in his fanzine.
Only well-fed and wealthy people like you who live in relative safety in their countries have the luxury to think their comfort rates higher than the needs of the oppressed.
There's good and bad (Score:2, Informative)
Either we stand up to our responsibilities as adults and advanced and civilized people with a sense of honor, propriety, and duty, and chase criminals and terrorists while playing by the traditions, rules, regulations, and laws... or we dispense with our rights, liberties, and privileges in the name of safety and prevention of infractions.
As we all well know, you cannot trade freedom for security and we'll be damned if we do. We can only try to find ways to stop the abuse but I sincerly hope people do not seek to go beyond that. I use Tor to get out of my subnet when it is blacklisted due to abuse activities by people also on the subnet. Why should I suffer for some arse's misbehavior? I also use it to keep my privacy when dealing with places where locals tend to have more than a touch of nastiness and vindictiveness.
The Internet is crawling with bad people. We shouldn't hesitate to use the privacy technologies availible to defend ourselves and we shouldn't be looking askance at them because some people abuse them. People abuse just about anything. That's human nature. Should we live in padded rooms in underground bunkers?