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Symantec Launches Anti-Spyware Beta 319

daria42 writes "Symantec has launched the beta test version of its anti-spyware application, which will be sold from June as part of Norton Internet Security 2005. The company's Norman Kohlberger said the main aim of the new combined product was to make PC security as easy as possible for the end user. 'The computer is not a toy anymore. It has turned into a toaster and microwave -- it has become an integral part of the home environment,' he said. 'We have to reduce the complexity. People do not want privacy software, firewall, antivirus, spyware, adware and blended threats. The average individual is saying I don't want this anymore. Just fix it. What we are doing is reducing the complexity.'"
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Symantec Launches Anti-Spyware Beta

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  • Re:Challenge (Score:2, Informative)

    by AviLazar ( 741826 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @10:23AM (#12450798) Journal
    I used to use Symantec - for many years...even before when it was Dr. Nortons. Now it just plain sucks. It kept crashing on my XP laptop. Crashed ony my parents laptop. That and even before then, Norton Antivirus would not always turn on when the computer powered up...and everything would turn it off. My cousin just got McAfee internet security - came with virus, spameware, adblock, and more.

    Right now I use CA eTrust virus and MS AntiSpyware.
  • Re:Challenge (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 06, 2005 @10:25AM (#12450814)
    1) Zonealarm
    2) Ad-aware
    3) Spybot
    4) AVG Free edition

    Never had a virus or spyware problem.
  • by Colin Smith ( 2679 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @10:30AM (#12450857)
    There are lots of spyware detection and removal applications out there for Windows. They're even pretty simple to install, use and are even fairly effective. This is product placement, not news.

  • Re:Challenge (Score:2, Informative)

    by dlZ ( 798734 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @10:41AM (#12450944) Journal
    I see a lot of machines come in without Internet access and Symantec's firewall offering on the machine. Can't uninstall any of the Norton products, so have to remove them by hand. Magically, the wonderful wide Interweb comes back for the customer to install spyware till their heart is complete. Install Zonealarm or enable the Windows built in firewall, no issues.

    Run Antivir or ClamAV, find way too many copies of Klez or something else Norton AV should have caught.

    Customer goes home, immediatly installs Norton again even though we warn them not to, machine is back in the shop two days later because it's broken again.

    I can only wonder what their anti-spyware software will do.
  • by Max_Abernethy ( 750192 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @10:43AM (#12450951) Homepage
    Their idea of simplicity was in my case just deleting my entire thunderbird mail archive because there was a viral attachment in some piece of mail it had junked. This was after I told it -not- to look at my mail because I was sick of getting notified about the 50 or so of those I receive daily. After that incident, I just uninstalled the damn thing - I've yet to catch any virii as far as I know.
  • Re:Norton is useless (Score:3, Informative)

    by BCW2 ( 168187 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @10:59AM (#12451099) Journal
    When Peter Norton ran it, it was the best there was. Unfortunately it has been on a down hill slide since Symantec bought it. I clean more virii off computers that have Norton installed than any other AV product.

    What I use in the white box store I work in is Ad-Aware & Spybot for ad/spy/malware and Trend for virus cleanups. I have found that McAfee is also very good at clean up. Fprot seems to be the best at prevention, we have used it on everything in the store for over 3 years and I have had it at home for 2+ years and no virus has ever made it in. I switched at home when Norton let one in. It was the only one ever to get in one of my boxes in 15 years, I was seriously pissed.
  • What a POS (Score:2, Informative)

    by dgos78 ( 881140 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @11:05AM (#12451152)
    I just installed this to test it out, and it ran very slow. The spyware protection is nothing more than what is included in the latest versions of NAV. What a gyp. It is now uninstalled. AVG, Firefox, and Spyware Guard and Blaster do me just fine.
  • by baddu ( 874916 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @11:05AM (#12451156)
    yeah.. but we Indians, not being racists, will buy Coke, Pepsi and what not. I was planning to go to Pizza Hut for a bite and saw this. I am now going to a South Indian food court. Thanks for the not-so-racist BS.
  • by TripMaster Monkey ( 862126 ) * on Friday May 06, 2005 @11:06AM (#12451165)

    Wow...that was fun...

    Maniacal raving flames aside, I'll be the first to agree with you. As an I.T. guy (not former), I readily admit that the piss-poor state of M$ operating systems keep food on my table.

    I LOVE spyware...spyware alone pays my mortgage.

  • It's a joke (Score:3, Informative)

    by delus10n0 ( 524126 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @11:09AM (#12451191)
    Just look online for the plethora of previews and beta reviews, such as this one from PCWorld. Sorry, Symantec, I don't want to install 314MB of files, 11 services, 3 startup items, 2 toolbars, and 2 BHOs (Browser Helper Objects) just to "prevent spyware".

    Symantec lost the game a long time ago-- there are much better (and cheaper) ways to keep your PC afloat.
  • Re:Money? (Score:2, Informative)

    by vandon ( 233276 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @11:42AM (#12451499) Homepage
    The corporate version can be controlled with the Symantec system console.
    The updated virus defs can be tested on a single machine before being released to the whole company. You can start scans of individual computers or for fun, start the whole company on a full system scan at once. It has a centralized quarantine and all alerts are logged in one place, so you can see when Mr.CEO clicks on that attachment you told the whole company not to click on. It seems to take up less memory probably because it doesn't have the fancy pretty foo-foo web page graphics looking front end. It just has a functional everything where you can find it interface.
  • Re:Bullshit! (Score:2, Informative)

    by vandon ( 233276 ) on Friday May 06, 2005 @11:47AM (#12451575) Homepage
    9.0 didn't catch spy/adware very well. However, v10(corporate edition) does an excellent job. I've visited certain non-work related webpages and it has popped up warnings about some script or activeX control or a program trying to install.
    It also has detected spyware during a system scan. It's nowhere near as good as spybot, adaware, and MS anti-spyware...but it blocks the worst stuff and with each definition and engine update, it's getting better.
  • by khasim ( 1285 ) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Friday May 06, 2005 @11:54AM (#12451696)
    ... someone has to make the claim that he runs Windows without anti-virus/anti-spyware and doesn't have any problems.

    First off, if your router has a DMZ, then you are running a firewall.

    As for the rest, without running current anti-virus software, you won't know if you have a virus.

    The same with spyware.

    The fact is, "common sense" will not prevent you from accidentally typing in a wrong URL and ending up at a site that would exploit IE.

    The same with Outlook Express. There is nothing stopping someone else from sending you email with a virus that would exploit an auto-run sequence.

    "Common sense" is knowing that Windows is vulnerable and needs to be protected.

    "Common sense" is running the necessary protections and keeping them updated.

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