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Reuters: 80% of Chinese Computers Virus Infected 362

Alien54 writes "A rueters news report says that 80% of computers in China have been touched by a computer virus. They quote a a six-week survey conducted by the [Chinese] National Computer Virus Emergency Response Center cited in the official China Daily newspaper."
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Reuters: 80% of Chinese Computers Virus Infected

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  • by TibbonZero ( 571809 ) <Tibbon@gmail.WELTYcom minus author> on Thursday October 10, 2002 @03:42PM (#4426669) Homepage Journal
    If China's gov't can filter so much of the content that their citizens view, you would think that they would somehow figure out how to filter viruses in email attachments and stuff (which is possible)

    Or PERHAPS, the name of the Virus is Win32.China.Is.Spying.On.Its.Citzens.Virus

    Hmm
  • 10,000 lbs per acer (Score:5, Interesting)

    by red5 ( 51324 ) <(moc.liamg) (ta) (5derig)> on Thursday October 10, 2002 @03:42PM (#4426670) Homepage Journal
    I know it's a tired argument but most of the news in china is made up.

    I just wonder what would China have to gain by saying all their computers are 0w3d? Is it the "National Computer Virus Emergency Response Center" trying to get more funding?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10, 2002 @03:46PM (#4426729)
    No, that must be why people die playing games in internet cafes over there.
  • The FLu season (Score:5, Interesting)

    by goombah99 ( 560566 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @03:51PM (#4426791)
    Its widely agreed that most flu come from asia, china specifically. Indeed this is what deterimes which flu you get vaccinated for each winter: they look at china and see what they've caught in the precedding month. Some beleive the new flus arise out of livestock practices of mixing ducks, pigs and humans in close proximity creating a host (duck) where the flu mutates quickly without harming the host, a stepping stone where it adapts (pigs) which are similar to humans, and then a final host (human) that can easily deliver it to humans.

    so now we have a computer virus incubator too.

    which leads to an interesting thought. maybe some days viruses will be created by computers and breed like flu does. They will gather strenght in a compliant population (china) before emerging to the real world.

  • by gpinzone ( 531794 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @03:56PM (#4426847) Homepage Journal
    80%?! I thought the majority of China is using Linux? What happened to all that press about Linux taking over Asia? [misweb.com] I guess pirated Windows is still considered "free software."
  • by sssmashy ( 612587 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:01PM (#4426895)
    They go to internet cafes instead. I wouldn't be surprised if many of those cafes had a virus infection of 100%. Most of the cafes that are cheap enough to be affordable are unlicensed and poorly maintained.

    Earlier this year, once such cafe caught fire and 40 users died. The PRC responded by shutting down thousands of these establishments... at least for a while.
  • Spam related? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by gmuslera ( 3436 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:06PM (#4426946) Homepage Journal
    Knowing the amount of spam coming from there, maybe are a lot of spammers spreading virus in china. Maybe (I hope) someone think that is time to take extreme measures on spammers because of this
  • by SirSlud ( 67381 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:07PM (#4426952) Homepage
    [sarcasm]

    meanwhile, at cnn, abcnews, bbc, cbc, journalists are hard at work empowering you, a free man, with bias-free and editorization-free content.

    the fact that they make money doing this is just a nice bonus to the fuzzy feelings they get in their tummy from helping you feel^H^H^H^Hbe a free citizen of planet earth.

    [/sarcasm]

    to be honest, sometimes i respect an out-of-the-closet dictatorial regime over the 'dont say it out loud' vested econo/poli agendas of major media conglomerates who still have the gall to act as if they dont have any vested interest in various stories/news

    in other words, better to bias your content for a political/social goal than a purely financial one, although I appreciate that neither system ultimately serves humans on the basis of "what news is important".

    please note I'm not condoning China's political system, only somewhat envious of the transparency in so far as agendas go ..

    as a final huzzah, i believe that this article is about how many people *think* they were infected, not how many actuall were, so it wouldn't really be justification for some sort of tin-foil-hat conceived agenda.
  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:18PM (#4427052) Journal
    I used to live in Beijing... as an american there you would be astonished at the rate of piracy.

    While in Hong Kong as a turist some aquaintences took us to a shop that specialized in pirate-ware. It had rows and rows of pirated CD's.

    Only half of them worked when I got home and tried them........um I mean whan a friend tried them. Some were truncated at the end, and others were too thin to spin properly in the drive. Masking tape helped some.

    I think in Chinese thinking, intellectual property "rights" is kind of a silly idea. It is not something tangable, and thus not protectable in philosophy. They tend not to trust banks either, because the money becomes "virtual" instead of something physical. Perhaps they have been burned by banks in the past. I don't know.

    Is Richard Stallman Chinese by chance?

    In Conton they sold phoney tiger corpses in the street. That is good because tigers are nearly extinct. Some things are good to pirate.
  • Re:works both ways? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Urox ( 603916 ) <luthien3@j u n o . c om> on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:21PM (#4427068) Journal
    But it starts to get scary if you get sick in China, and the doctors ask which brand of harddrive you want installed in place of your appendix.

    What was scary is that I stayed in a 5 star hotel, went to their "on-site" doctor, and he swabbed iodine over a bite that had been infected on my leg (andwas swollen 6 inches across) and thought that would take care of it. Fortunately, the tour guide took me to a "hospital" where the doctor there gave me antibacterial drugs to fight the infection.

    Interestingly enough to keep this on topic: you know that the chinese word for computer translates to "electric brain," right? (dian nao) I wonder what the internals are called..
  • by omega_cubed ( 219519 ) <wongwwy.member@ams@org> on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:21PM (#4427069) Journal
    I scanned the whole site. There's no mention of such a survey on the site. I don't actually think the survey is conducted by antivirus-china.org.cn/

    However, I did find something rather amusing:
    On the website, when ever they found a new virus appearing in China, they list a newsreport saying:

    The virus ZZZ now invades China.

    And judging by the post dates, the great firewall is actually quite nice. Moreover, they have the best vius protection/know how tutorial I've ever seen on any website, and admittedly, for a Chinese speaker, the way they describe syptoms and methods of removal for individual viruses are much more friendly then even synmantec.

    W
  • by natron 2.0 ( 615149 ) <ndpeters79@gm[ ].com ['ail' in gap]> on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:22PM (#4427078) Homepage Journal
    I agree completely. I now live in South Korea and software piracy runs rampant. You can go to any electronics market and get any type of software you want. If they don't have it they say they can get it for you. They have even gone as far as to crack PS2, GameCube, and Xbox games and sell them for a just a few dollars apiece. You can get any kinnd of media for next to nothing here, it is terrible.
  • Comment removed (Score:2, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:47PM (#4427319)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • terms (Score:2, Interesting)

    by hpavc ( 129350 ) on Thursday October 10, 2002 @04:53PM (#4427397)
    the terms in this article are very odd ... 'touched by a virus' and 'free from any virus attack'? i would hate to have my expensive research represented by such a summary.
  • Piracy and Music (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10, 2002 @05:52PM (#4427928)
    No one seems to have any problems with the definition of piracy when in comes to computer software in Asia, where it is obviously a tremendous problem. I know people in Hong Kong that don't buy any real music, videos or software and only get pirated stuff. In fact, some don't even go to movies because they VCD is only a couple of bucks. Yet, many people seem to have problems when someone applies the word piracy to Napster, etc...

    Interesting...
  • Re:Incorrect (Score:2, Interesting)

    by kaphka ( 50736 ) <1nv7b001@sneakemail.com> on Thursday October 10, 2002 @06:24PM (#4428162)
    So they don't give out any real information (like "Using Outlook will inevitably cause you to get infected. Switch to something else"). They even seem to have helped the trend of calling any malware a "virus" because of this.
    You have a good point, but your FUD is no better than what the AV companies are promoting.

    What the AV authorities really should be saying is simply:

    A) Keep all your software patched (MS or not), and

    B) Do not run a program if you're not sure you can trust it; if you can't handle that, just don't open any attachments that you're not expecting.

    If you follow these two rules, and there are no undiscovered exploits, I can guarantee that you will never be infected.

    Note that users can follow these simple rules without disrupting their usual email habits. On the other hand, if you tell people to "Stop using Outlook, "Never open attachments (even jpegs?)," or "Don't read email from anyone you don't know," they will probably just ignore you, and they'll be just as vulnerable as before.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 10, 2002 @08:34PM (#4428838)
    With the way software is 'distributed', every new PC comes with the latest version of Windows and every program known to man both Chinese and other languages.

    When we bought some of these machines for our China offices, they even came with the latest viruses preinstalled! What service. Wipe delete and reinstall OS. Get back most of the hard drive too.

    The way most PCs are managed over there, to have a PC is to have a virus. Most people I've met seem to accept that getting a virus is normal.

    It is freaky.

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