DSLReports Study: 8 Hours 'til the Spam Hits 348
Masem writes: "In a rather interesting study at DSLReports, it was observed that email addresses published on a web site recieved spam within 8 hours of being posted, showing how aggressive the harvesters are working. In particular, a special link was set up on the main page that by following the link, the site generated an email address that was trackable to the IP that called the link, and not published anywhere else at any time. In the specific case, in only 8 hours after the email address was created, it had recieved spam; since that time about 9 months ago, it's gotten around 100 pieces. Given the time and source of most of the emails, the authors believe that they've simply got someone at one end of a home broadband pipeline using open relay mail servers, and most likely being paid to redistribute spam on the email addresses they harvest."
Lockheed Marin (Score:4, Insightful)
To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:3, Interesting)
LeaveMe@lone.com
Kissmy@ss.com
All of which I have used to registery sofware in the past.
Hughj@ss.com is still waiting for his free natural viagra as I write this.
Re:To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:5, Insightful)
I always like to use the webmaster's e-mail account when registering software. For example, if I was registering software on widgets.com, I might use the e-mail address "webmaster@widgets.com" or "abuse@widgets.com" to register the software.
I feel torn, as I want to support free software vendors by allowing them to make money, but I just don't want my e-mail address to be sold for spam. Ever. I also don't want those annoying newsletters that I could care less about unless I *explicitely* ask for it (and not be tricked or required by default).
Re:To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:5, Interesting)
A good alternative is to use the domain "example.com." IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) holds the names "example.*" in reserve for use as (you guessed it) examples. It's been that way since at least 1995.
So an email of the form "foo@example.com" is perfectly valid... and can never be the recipient of email.
Re:To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:3, Funny)
I'm sorry, Bob. So very, very sorry.
Re:To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:2)
Needless to say, I was annoyed. Not so much that it changed my life, except now I get a little chuckle of someone looking through the root email and checking on bad cron outputs, or whatever, or looking for httpd error messages, and finding 19932 "get rich quick". I always check the contact me button, and all of the "list your interests" buttons
~z
Re:To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:4, Funny)
hotline@mpaa.org and cdreward@riaa.org.
Re:To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:To Spammer, please Harvest these addresses: (Score:2)
What about the Godzillagram (Score:2)
Re:DMCA: Can it be leveraged here? (Score:2)
It's an access control device, not an encryption device, but that works well, because that's what the DMCA says, anyway.
Of course, the DMCA will be gone or severely amended in a few years anyway, so I wouldn't rely on it too much.
I think the summary is misleading... (Score:4, Interesting)
The email address wasn't harvested 8 hours after being posted, it was sent spam 8 hours after being harvested.
What would be more interesting is to find out how long it takes with your address on the web before it gets entered into the various lists...
Re:I think the summary is misleading... (Score:2, Insightful)
Very interesting (Score:5, Interesting)
I also find it handy to have a 'spamdrop' account, which is just another e-mail alias on my host, for signing up for one-off things, like chat, games, etc. That account fills up incredibly quickly; I receive on the order of 50 spams/day at that address. Wow...
Re:Very interesting (Score:3, Insightful)
IME, very few ecommerce sites spam. And almost all of those are obviously from the company I gave the email to.
Note: I don't live in the USA, so don't deal with some of the more egrarious spammers.
Re:Very interesting (Score:2)
I do something similar. With my domain, I create a mail alias for each merchant and kill it at the first sign of spam.
Some of the merchants are very bad. Particularly the shop.yahoo.com ones. I think that either Yahoo has a leak in its ordering system, or somebody's actively soliciting mail addresses from shop.yahoo.com sellers. Well over half the items I order from there result in spam to the corresponding stores' addresses. Maybe one in seven of the non-Yahoo merchants end up selling or otherwise sharing my address.
Altogether though, ebay remains the absolute worst place to get your address harvested, with usenet a close second.
Re:Very interesting (Score:5, Insightful)
Ebay must be lucrative for spammers; a whole 'audience' of people either with money to spend (buyers), or who are about to have money to spend (sellers). And this 'audience' has already self-selected; they're not afraid to spend their money online...
Re:Very interesting (Score:2)
For those who don't know how, you just add a line in
alias: account
One of the advantages of running your own SMTP server. I use DHS [dhs.org] for my (free) domains and am running this on a home network off a cable modem w/ linksys router. No, it's not an open relay.
Re:Very interesting (Score:3, Informative)
I am VERY satisfied user.
Oh, and for some annoyances http://www.spamcop.net [spamcop.net] do the job really well.
Re:Very interesting (Score:2)
Are you talking about obfuscating it in source code (mailto:)? If so tell me how! I always figured that if a browser could read it so could a harvester, but would love to be proved wrong.
Re:Very interesting (Score:2, Informative)
My new address has been up on the company web site for two and a half month but no spam AT ALL has come to it ... this is possibly because I used the win32 prog Mailto Encryptor [spaceports.com] for all the mailto links. (You have to go into the site a bit to find it.)
That's nothing... (Score:3, Funny)
Jason.
Re:That's nothing... (Score:2)
Spammed by the best (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Spammed by the best (Score:2)
How? (Score:3, Interesting)
Google is big. Google has a very fat spider going around. Google definitly does not check a nowhere webpage as soon as it is created! How can somebody on a cable account (limited bandwith?) scan pages at a high enough rate that they hit an almost invisible webpage soon after it was created? Big machine, big connection? spoofed IP?
Is this business really so lucrative that people are willing to spend hours working on it? It'd like to have some stats on how many people actually subscribe to the "services" advertised for in spam. I know a spider is not a lot of maintenance once setup and the distribution cost for the spammers is almost null because they make everybody else pay for it, but where the hell do they get the profit...
Re:How? (Score:2)
Re:How? (Score:3, Insightful)
Google has to do a lot to process a page. It tries to analyze the content, it crossreferences complex networks of linking, building a very complicated database for searching.
A spammer-spider can be much more simple, and thus move much more quickly. All it is interested in are email addresses. Period.
Re:How? (Score:4, Interesting)
This means, if there are enough of them, you could easily scan several tens of thousands of pages every day with little difficulty. And if one or even many of them get shut down, the spamming operation is not affected much. This is probably the first good example of a distributed network for profit. Too bad its such a slimy one.
-Restil
Re:How? (Score:2)
But even at that rate, it would take me about 18 years to scan the entire internet.
However, if there were 1,000 people all scanning at that rate, they could do it in under a week.
Now, how many people do you think are out there looking for web servers to harvest e-mail from? I dunno, but it's probably a lot closer to 1,000 than it is to 1. So it's not surprising to get hit by a random scan pretty often.
Random E-mail address? (Score:3, Interesting)
I used to have an e-mail address that was andrew@, it was great for a year or two. I still have it, but I do not retrieve the messages since it receives 30+ SPAM messages per day. My other e-mail address is my first initial + last name, and my last name is rare enough that I get maybe 1 Spam message per month.
Re:Random E-mail address? (Score:2, Interesting)
I think the point the article made, which got lost in the summary on /., is that the web page was up for awhile (the article only says A while ago) without receiving spam at the associated email address. When it finally received spam, they went back to the web logs, and found the entry corresponding to the unique email address that was generated for that particular hit. And they discovered that the particular web page hit corresponding to the spammer happened 8 hours before the spam arrived.
The interesting part to me is the conclusion that all subsequent spam over a 9 month period was the result of that single web page hit. That tells me that addresses are harvested off obscure web pages only occasionally. I suspect that most spammers get email addresses come from other sources.
This + Giant laser of death (Score:2, Funny)
Sheesh, though, I hate spam. I get like 10 spam a day at my real email address, which people only can discover by talking to me (I don't post it or give it out for obvious reasons).
Maybe some kind of bulk-email tax could be imposed.... Even though I am firmly against internet tax, I think making the spammers pay for the mail (ala-junk mail via postal system) is the only solution.
They randomly attack servers, too. (Score:2)
I've seen it while administering our own Exchange server. They'll try all sorts of common name combinations (such as rsmith@, tsmith@, jsmith@, etc.) in the hopes that some of them exist.
They know your domain is valid - so they never lay off trying to stuff garbage in any valid boxes on the site they can hit.
How to foil email harvesters (Score:2, Insightful)
- grunby
New use for this? (Score:5, Interesting)
That way, whoever is running the spider can start spamming direct to the abuse address, saving the site owner from having to report them.
Does SPAM work? (Score:2)
Re:Does SPAM work? - Yes (Score:2, Informative)
Last I heard they would get a response of something like 0.02-0.05% of the time
That is 2-5 for every ten thousand spams.
They don't care, send out a few hundred thousand spams, get a few hundred responses, they can make money.
Shortly after it stops working, people will stop spamming.
Re:Does SPAM work? - Yes (Score:2)
Do a study on the statistics of how many enemies are made by spamming. I, for instance, will never buy something from an entity that spams. Period. I'm sure there are others who do the same.
Step 1: Spam, Step 3: Profit! (Score:2)
"There's a sucker born every minute."
A great expose of how spammers operate comes from one of the mirrored [cluelessfucks.com] sites Behind Enemy Lines [freewebsites.com]. It shows that if SPAM itself isn't always profitable, selling the service of spamming certainly is. And to make this profit, spammers will resort to illegal [freewebsites.com] activities.
Of course, when you consider the morals this group has already demonstrated, it should come to no suprise that their most agressive campaign was a stock pump-n-dump scam [freewebsites.com].
Does SPAM pay? Apparently. But so do a lot of other crimes.
Yes, or at least it used to. (Score:5, Interesting)
They set up a small server that would just browse around the Web and usenet harvesting e-mail addresses wherever they could be found. The first week they sent out about 80,000 pieces of e-mail per day. They got tons and tons of hate mail in return but also a few hits. The first day, there were about 60 sales of a $69.99 "travel club membership" product (essentially a hotel and airline coupon book), and by that Friday they were up to over 200 sales a day thanks to the SPAM. Totals for the week were something like 350,000 e-mails sent and 900 sales for a total of about $63,000 in revenue that week thanks to SPAM. The coupon book itself wasn't all that expensive -- the deals were promotional and each book only cost the company something like $12.00, so the net was around $52,000 for the week. Not bad for a computer sitting in the corner with a $100 piece of software -- this likely explains why spammers stay at it.
I left shortly thereafter so I don't really know whether they "stuck with it" or not, but it obviously can generate sales.
Only if you're not on AOL (Score:2, Informative)
Solution? (Score:5, Interesting)
Post this email NOWHERE else. Wait for a spider to come around and harvest... Is such a contract legally binding? I would think it would be, considering you can make online-payments and such, and those contracts are binding (i.e. if you promise to pay Amazon for your book, you have to do it, right?)
Re:Solution? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Solution? (Score:2, Interesting)
That simplifies the process of proving you offered them an agreement and so on.
Re:Solution? (Score:2, Interesting)
IMMA JUST GONNA GO LIKE THIS,
AND IT'S NOT MY FAULT IF YOU GET HIT! Of course that's not legally binding. The law is not stupid.Re:Solution? (Score:2)
I don't see how this is any different then when you "purchase" something on-line. I mean, you send a request for some item, they send the item, and you send the payment. Lets say you make an mp3, charge $6500 for it, and have people send requests for it to I_WANT_TO_BUY_YOUR_MP3_FOR_6500_DOLLARS@domain.or
sneakemail (Score:4, Informative)
Re:sneakemail (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:sneakemail (Score:2)
The Cutting Edge of Web-Crawling (Score:2)
I know I'll get modded down for this, but I think there are a lot of parallels between this case and that of pornography (another somewhat shadowy industry that is often looked down upon, yet is always there to profit off of new technologies as soon as they become available.)
Re:The Cutting Edge of Web-Crawling (Score:2)
Regardless of your own views on porn, it's largely there for those who want it and avoidable for those that don't. <warning type="bad pun ahead">It's not like they shove porn down your throat like spammers do with their "information"</warning> I'd rather tell people I was in the adult business than a spammer!
telemarketers (Score:3, Funny)
Last week I applied for a telemarketing job.
Within hours I started getting calls, and I've gotten 5 a day since.
Re:telemarketers (Score:5, Informative)
I'm seriously considering moving my mail servers over to using TMDA [libertine.org], which I hear stops about 99% of SPAM. At this point, I have to do something.
Re:telemarketers (Score:2)
Re:telemarketers (Score:2)
What I meant to add is that I take abuse complaints at the small ISP where I work. Occasionally one of our customers will spam, and often the first reports we get will be from Spamcop. I can reply to the reports, but the email address is always something like "8723742347y77@spamcop.net". Unless the sender has left in a .sig w/their email address, I'll never know it.
Re:telemarketers (Score:2, Insightful)
Karma...
Re:telemarketers (Score:2, Insightful)
>
> Last week I applied for a telemarketing job.
> Within hours I started getting calls, and I've gotten 5 a day since.
Since only a moron would want to be a telemarketer (i.e. would believe the "Make $$$ at our call center, d00d!" flyers on campus), it stands to reason you got placed on a "sucker's list" as a result of applying for the job.
If I were in a good mood I'd call it poetic justice and leave it at that.
But I'm not in a good mood today, so I'll just gloat by pointing out that payback's a bitch, and on behalf of the rest of us who no longer answer our phones because of pieces of subhuman shit such as yourself (oh, sorry, you only applied for the job, that makes you a wannabe subhuman piece of shit :) that I sincerely hope you never receive a non-telemarketing phone call again as long as you live.
Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.
Re:telemarketers (Score:2, Insightful)
Since he didn't say if it was inbound or outbound TM, you might be premature on that rant. Sure, outbound (where they call you) sucks, but what's wrong with inbound (where you call them)?
As for being a moron if he was going for an outbound job, let me say that if it comes down to feeding my family or not, I'm going to feed them. If this means I have to take an outbound TM job, well, I'll just have to do it.
As much as I hate the Telemarketing business model, remember that the person on the other end of the phone (99 times out of 100) is just trying to make an honest living. I'm (mostly) polite to the TM's that call, and ask to be put on the "do not call" list. That works, except for some chairities that won't leave you alone until you are dead 5 years.
The long and the short of it is -- lighten up, 'cause life's too short to blow a fuse over a phone call.
Bullying? Harrassing? (Score:2)
Just how do they bully or harrass you?
Yeah, they aren't my favourite phone calls either, but calling it "bullying" or "harrassing" is either rhetorical extravagance or a revelation of a serious mental problem on your part. It's a freakin phone call. Harrassment is possible, but if they're seriously harrassing you there are ways to deal with that - and I've never even heard of that happening. What on earth would they have to gain? Harrassment doesn't get sales. And to bully you would require that they could actually do something to threaten you with, they can't, they're a voice on the other end of a phone, they can't hurt you.
I get telemarketer calls all the time. It usually goes like this. Pick up the phone, listen to spiel long enough to determine I am not interested (3-4 seconds) - interrupt and say "sorry, not interested, better luck next call" and hang up. Once in awhile someone actually calls with something I'm even interested in (promotional offer on something I'm thinking about buying already.) Either way, there's no bullying or harrassment. And, most importantly, they call on their dime. The trouble with spammers is they call on my dime. I would never buy anything from a spammer, even if they did have a good deal on something I wanted. If a telemarketer called with such an offer I'd have no problem with it though.
Spam by unique email address (Score:5, Interesting)
I was amazed when I started receiving spam on 'premaritalagreement.com@mydomain.com' (only the mydomain is fake!) and I contact the people and they denied everything. But at least you can ban that email address and ban the company.
On the other hand it's funny when (for some reason) the company calls you to verify something, and they go over all the stuff and then get to the email. There was one person that just didn't get it: 'yeah, but that's OUR email address', recognizing her companies name.
For those reasons some people generate an obfuscated (rot-13 for example) address.
In any case, the sad thing is that there's not much you can do against the companies that sell your email address, legally...
Re:Spam by unique email address (Score:2)
Anyway, when I was filling in the registration info on one company's page that I was buying something on (wish I could remember which one), it came back saying invalid e-mail address. I was thinking "huh, what is invalid about that e-mail address?!" I tried a few variations, and sure enough, as soon as I put in one which didn't have the company's name as part of the address, it stopped complaining and accepted it. Bastards. And too bad for anyone who actually has that word in their e-mail address...
Report that Spam! (A bit OT) (Score:2)
From the page:
If you would like to forward unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) to the Commission, please send it directly to UCE@FTC.GOV without using this form.
Use with care,
PhatKat
Have some fun (Score:2, Funny)
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <math.h>
#define MAX_DOMAINS 8
static char * domains[MAX_DOMAINS] =
{
"com", "edu", "biz", "net", "gov", "it", "ru", "info"
};
int getRandomLength( void )
{
float val = (float)rand();
val = val / RAND_MAX;
val = val * 20;
return (int)val;
}
char getRandomChar( void )
{
float val = (float)rand();
val = val / RAND_MAX;
val = val * 26;
return (char)( ((int)val) + 0x61 );
}
int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
char c;
char buf[1000];
FILE * fp;
int accountLength;
int subDomainLength;
int bufIndex;
int i, g;
int gencount = atoi( argv[1] );
printf( "Generating %i accounts.\n", gencount );
fp = fopen( "emaillist.html", "w" );
if ( fp == 0 ) return 0;
for ( int dcount = 0; dcount < MAX_DOMAINS; dcount++ ) {
g = gencount;
while ( g > 0 ) {
memset( buf, 0, sizeof( buf ) );
bufIndex = 0;
accountLength = getRandomLength();
subDomainLength = getRandomLength();
for ( i = 0; i <= accountLength; i++ ) {
c = getRandomChar();
buf[bufIndex] = c;
bufIndex++;
}
buf[bufIndex] = '@';
bufIndex++;
for ( i = 0; i <= subDomainLength; i++ ) {
c = getRandomChar();
buf[bufIndex] = c;
bufIndex++;
}
buf[bufIndex] = '.';
bufIndex++;
strcat( &buf[bufIndex], domains[dcount] );
fprintf( fp, "%s ", buf );
g--;
}
}
fclose( fp );
return 0;
}
Re:Have some fun (Score:3, Interesting)
Dood, learn some perl. Not only would it cut this down to a nice readable couple of lines, but you could also generate a different list every time the web page was hit. That way, it would really poison the well.
Spackler
PS: Yes folks, right tool for the job. Not every job.
Obfuscated html (Score:5, Insightful)
rsidd@yaho 1.com
Amazingly, not a single spammer has gotten hold of it yet, in over a year; whereas, unobfuscated
addresses used only once, on mailing list archives for example, are picked up immediately.
Obviously these spambots aren't so intelligent.
this in nothing compared to hotmail! (Score:2, Interesting)
Obviously, its unusable. How many others have similar experiences?
Re:this in nothing compared to hotmail! (Score:2)
I have had the same hotmail for years and the only SPAM i get is about fake university degrees - alsways the same message but from different domains. I get more spam on my work account than my hotmail. far from being unusable i find it gets less spam than Altavista or Yahoo (which should be called spamhoo), the blocking in hotmail works pretty well as well.
And as the spam in these accounts is sent to a preditcion list (john1@, john2@ and so on please indicate the address you chose (HINT : notpublic@hotmail would be a great way to collect spam) The point on these types of services is that if you want to avoid spam dont use a common address - hotmail and other free mail providers cannot defend against every spammer out there using a dictionary type list against them - they are just enetering name@hotmail.com over and over to get responses and as hotmail has so many clients an addres like mik12567@hotmail is as great a spam target as bob_smith
Hotmail is a free service and thats what pisses me - its free so if you dont like it dont use it - its not like you have to - and as free services go its not bad for what you pay for it, or is it simply that its owned by Microsoft ?
id mark you down as a troll if i had any points left
Submitter Must Believe Story (Score:2)
Why can't we just beat spammers? (Score:2)
ISPs / hosts selling e-mail addresses? (Score:3, Interesting)
1. Created a new e-mail account for a friend at my doteasy domain. I am the only owner of the domain ever, and have held it for years. The e-mail address had never existed before. About 12 hours later, while helping my friend to configure outlook express to check the account, I was surprised to discover two pieces of SPAM already in the account. This is a new address that has never been used or given to anyone, ever.
2. After the AT&T @Home to AT&T Broadband fiasco, new e-mail addresses had to be created. One of the accounts I created (and did not use for anything) got spam within hours of its being created. Here again, this e-mail address had never been supplied to anyone but AT&T Broadband, in the process of creating it.
My reluctant conclusion (unless someone can explain some other solution to me) is that both ISPs and Web hosts routinely place e-mail addresses they host on lists which are sold to spammers, I guess as a way to supplement the revenue stream.
Re: ISPs / hosts selling e-mail addresses? (Score:2, Informative)
Highly unlikely.
Spammers routinely rotate domain names on their address lists, for one thing. Say, if you have bob@example.com, joe@example.com, etc, it's likely these addresses will also exist @example.org. Change the example domains to @aol.com and @msn.com, each with millions of active mailboxes, and you've got a pretty good chance of hitting a high number of people. Change the domains to any domain you can find, regardless of size, you'll hit some (albiet not as many). Don't worry about the bad addresses bouncing, just forge someone else's return address and you won't have to deal with it (another common practice).
Another method they use is a dictionary attack type of thing, where they'll try random combinations of names, initials, numbers, etc, in the hopes of finding live mailboxes.
Gah, now I'm getting all pissed off about it. Bastards.
Re:ISPs / hosts selling e-mail addresses? (Score:3, Interesting)
I used to be a media1 (now ATT I believe) customer and logged into one of their big sun boxes for my free 5MB website via ftp.
cd
ls -l
50,000 directory listings later I'm almost in tears. Simply add @mediaone.net to them and you've got a really saleable list. Tech support couldn't even understand what I was saying and I didn't want to push it, you never know what these stupid companies will accuse you of.
Spamido - Poison their lists (Score:2)
To catch the spammers, and:
Vipuls Razor[1].
http://razor.sourceforge.net/
To report the spam to others and widen the protection once they've been caught.
[1] Doesn't that just sound like a spell out of D&D?
Running your own email servers... (Score:3, Insightful)
Whenever I need an email address to register at a web site, or to register software, I always use an address that is specifically created for that account. Well, actually, it's just a wild-card catch-all, so I don't have to create each account required. For instance, when I register my Adobe software, I use an address of adobe_registration_example@nettdata.com. This way I can see who is selling my email address to who, and I can then reject that individual address if it seems to be getting more than it's fair share of spam.
The hard part is getting other web users to NOT fill out those stupid "send an e-card to someone you love" with my real, virtually spam-free email address!
Open Relay Mail Servers... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Open Relay Mail Servers... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Open Relay Mail Servers... (Score:2)
Matches my experience with Hotmail (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Matches my experience with Hotmail (Score:3, Informative)
Why not.... (Score:2, Funny)
Took me two weeks (Score:2)
I put it up just here on
During those first two weeks it was not even obscusicated at all. In fact since selecting to use
Err, spellcheck just choked on my message, and google cannot even figure out some of those mystery words. Screw it, good luck reading the above.
One guy? (Score:5, Funny)
I say we've found a perfect target for testing that AC-130 Death Ray.
--Blair
Re:Hmm... (Score:5, Interesting)
I bet that time period for harvesting goes down pretty quick..
.
Re:Hmm... (Score:2)
Are there any government employees who can comment on this?
Re:Hmm... (Score:2, Insightful)
You know, even mentioning that idea, I'm suprised I haven't gotten a knock at my door already..
You've got a good point though- I would imagine that
.
Re:Hmm... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Hmm... (Score:2)
I'm working on a script that will let me send unsubscribe emails with uce@ftc.gov as the from header as well.
Any other ideas on how to abuse spammers?
Re:Hmm... (Score:2)
Most spammers with half a brain (not that they all have this...) either use programs that automatically filter out *.gov addresses, or even manually filter out the addresses themselves. Especially the more obviously bad-to-spam ones like uce@ftc.gov.
I use it (Score:2)
Re:Hmm... (Score:2)
Essentially, it was a simple CGI script. The author had 'links' to it, with no text between the and tags, so a normal broswer wouldn't display it. Most bots, however, would pick up on the link, and go there.
The link was to a CGI script, which would take the visitor's domain name, and do a whois lookup on it, and extract the administrative/technical addresses given.
It would then translate them to an IP address, making it less likely to be filtered out by the bot.
As a result, a lot of spammers started spamming their ISPs, who were listed as technical consultants.
Perhaps someone can paste the link?
Mod this question up, please. (Score:4, Interesting)
Lendrick
Re:Mod this question up, please. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re: (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Mod this question up, please. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:other spammer harvesting tricks (Score:2)
I say this because of mail I have which contains a dozen variations on my address in 'Apparently-To' entries in the mail.
Re:central database for spam-blocking ?? (Score:2, Informative)
But jokes aside, if you run a mailserver and want to block a good deal of spam, you should check out their site.
Re:Get a Hotmail account (Score:2, Insightful)
As easy as proverbial pie.
Re:You might try this... (Score:2)
Re:You might try this... (Score:2)
What like this? [nlug.org]