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Cellphone Use On Planes Coming Soon?

Posted by CowboyNeal on Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:58 AM
from the cleared-of-bee-murder-charges dept.
s31523 writes "A while back it was reported that cell phone use was given the OK on Emirate airlines. The BBC is now reporting European agencies back the use of cell phones in air. Plans have been developed to introduce technology that allow cell phone use on planes without any risk of interference. A spokesman for the UK regulator Ofcom said there were still many stages to pass through before final approval was given to the roll out of the plans, but the regulator said that the technology could be implemented next year."
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  • by Argon Sloth (655369) <`ac.retsamcm' `ta' `meleknif'> on Friday October 19 2007, @01:01AM (#21036845)
    Eagerly awaiting the Motorola Snake and all the jokes that come with it.
  • by dreadlord76 (562584) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:04AM (#21036875)
    In related news, Boeing and Airbus both announced the immediate availability of "Cone Of Silence" option on all airplanes.
  • by Cryacin (657549) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:08AM (#21036905)
    Now we get loud mouthed cellphone jabbers AND 13 yr old SMS kiddies beeping away during the entire duration of Sydney and LA... I can forsee 15 hrs of absolute murderous psychopatic bliss.
  • by Ydna (32354) * <andrewNO@SPAMsweger.net> on Friday October 19 2007, @01:11AM (#21036939) Homepage
    Without interference, eh? Yet another annoyance to deal with while flying: listening to some yammerhead yacking into their phone for the whole flight. I'll show you interference. I'm gonna yank that phone out of your hand and flush it down the toilet. Or tell the crew that the passenger next to me is holding some electrical device next to their head and it has wires sticking out of it and strange lights flashing. And it might be ticking!
  • by OrangeTide (124937) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:14AM (#21036957) Homepage Journal
    I refuse to fly until an airline offers a cell phone free flight. I don't want to sit in a tiny tin can for 4+ hours listening to some dork yapping about god knows what, when there is no possibility of getting away from him.

    If I can't "just walk away" then the only alternative is an ass kicking, and I assume if I punched someone out on a plane they would arrest me on the ground as a terrorists or something.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Second that!

      It's bad enough on trains and busses. Also, I don't think airline staff (that is the flight attentands) will want to mediate the disputes between people loudly yapping on the phone and people who want to sleep quietly. I suspect that till now the airlines were rather thappy to say "the government says you can't use your phone" and not have to worry about this. In the future they'll have to come down on one side or the other.

      • by jamesh (87723) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:45AM (#21037225)
        How about they designate an area where you are allowed to talk on your phone. I suggest on the wing, or on the ground.

        In terms of coming down on one side or the other, if the airline gets a share of the phone revenue, I'll give you one guess as to which side they'll come down on...

        What's really unfair though, is that if you bring a cell phone jammer onto an airoplane, _you_ would be the one to go to jail!
  • mithra save us (Score:5, Insightful)

    by misanthrope101 (253915) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:25AM (#21037059)
    I'd rather someone be allowed to surf the web next to me, goatse and all, than be allowed to gab on their cell. I even hate it that they can use their cells in the terminals. Why does anyone need to call to say "I'm on the ground now"? Obviously we can't rely on people to be considerate of others, but up till now we could rely on airline restrictions for a little peace. I vote we allow text messages, but no voice messages. Everyone gets to play the quiet game. Shut the hell up.
      • Can't they seen on the monitor that the plane has landed? I've picked up many people from the airport, and never needed a phone call to find out that their plane was on the ground. If I'm not in the airport to look at the monitor, a phone call isn't going to get me there any faster.
  • Wait, what? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Beardo the Bearded (321478) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:28AM (#21037077)
    Let me get this straight:

    You can bring on a cell phone, but not an iPod...

    You can bring on a lighter, but not a water bottle...

    You can wear a belt, but you have to remove your shoes...

    Are they just making the rules up randomly or something?
    • Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Informative)

      by clarkkent09 (1104833) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:58AM (#21037333)
      Are they just making the rules up randomly or something?

      Pretty much. The idea is to make people feel safer because they are doing something. What that something is is less important, they might as well require passengers to do a tap dance or whatever amuses them the most
      • Re: Wait, what? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Black Parrot (19622) on Friday October 19 2007, @02:57AM (#21037669)

        Are they just making the rules up randomly or something?
        Pretty much. The idea is to make people feel safer because they are doing something.
        Or less safe, if some important unconstitutional legislation is up for a vote.
  • Earplugs (Score:4, Insightful)

    by feepness (543479) on Friday October 19 2007, @02:02AM (#21037345) Homepage
    Pssst... you can wear them the entire time you're in the airport: http://www.earplugsonline.com/ [earplugsonline.com]

    Those earplugs + noise canceling headphones + a sleeping pill if you want = Transoceanic bliss.

    Throw in a PSP or DS and a movie or two and you are good to go. Just don't forget to bring some spare batteries.
  • by mi (197448) <mi+slashdot@aldan.algebra.com> on Friday October 19 2007, @09:24AM (#21040255) Homepage

    That the "freedom-loving" slashdotters are all — posters and moderators — claiming to be happy, that the big lie [economist.com] of "cell phones may interfere with safety equipment on board" is being used to stop their fellow passengers from using their cell phones on the planes.

    Evidently, the ends justify the means... Lying to millions of travelers to prevent a tiny minority of them from being inconsiderate, while at the same time offering them an option to pay $6/minute for the same sort of inconsideration...

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      "You'll never guess where I'm calling from!"
      • by Foobar of Borg (690622) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:14AM (#21036959)

        If some guy next to you is annoying, just ask him nicely to not be.
        So what do you think is the best way to handle some irrational jackass on that horribly enclosed space that is a commercial passenger airliner? I agree with you in general that politely asking someone not to do something that is annoying usually works. After all, some people do things that are annoying that they don't realize are annoying at the time, and if you politely tell them, they will politely cease since they will then realize that they are doing something annoying. *BUT*, there are some people who are complete shits and totally irrational to boot. How does one handle people like that on an airplane? I'm not really sure myself.
        • by QuickFox (311231) on Friday October 19 2007, @02:46AM (#21037611)

          So what do you think is the best way to handle some irrational jackass on that horribly enclosed space that is a commercial passenger airliner?
          The best solution is to allow cellphone usage in the seats at the back of the plane and forbid it in the seats at the front. You choose where to sit depending on your needs and preferences.
      • "If some guy next to you is annoying, just ask him nicely to not be."

        If we lived in a society where people tried to be nice to one another then you'd be right, the rants would be dumb.

        We don't live in such a society.

        It's pretty clear from the way people act with cell phones on the ground that this is going to be an annoying change on airplanes. Who here hasn't seen/interacted with someone who talked excessively loud over their cell? I see (more hear) those people every day, are they magically going to vanish on airplanes? Same goes for people who talk forever.

        We already have passenger's irritating other passengers without care on airplanes. My last flight we had someone who couldn't get a particular movie to play on the (obviously cheap) entertainment system. It was an old movie and (in my opinion) not very good but they kept complaining until the pilot decided to reset the system just to shut the guy up. After the reset he was fine, his movie played. Everyone else started getting random movies and the sound system didn't work but he was quite happy with himself. Add that to the multiple people swinging their luggage about without care while we were on the ground, the guy who went and got something out of his luggage when we were on the final runway, and the person who complained about the food and the trip was a quite unpleasant 9+ hours. Now add on someone talking on a cell phone for the entire trip, they don't even have to be that loud but they, or someone else, is always talking. Tell me, do you want to fly on that airplane?
      • by hedwards (940851) on Friday October 19 2007, @03:02AM (#21037705)
        I don't see why this was modded informative. Cell phones have been a problem for quite a while. I have one myself, and I rarely use it when there are other people present.

        I take it from your post that you don't actually fly ever, because nobody that has been on a plane in the last few years would take those positions.

        I am personally a large man, while I don't have a whole lot of extra flab, I do take up my entire seat, and more if we're talking about a 737. When somebody is taking up more space than is in a seat due to being obese they should be charge for the extra space. I barely fit in a seat as it is, and that's with the shoulders I was born with. I shouldn't have to forfeit any of my space because the person next to me chose to put on a lot of weight.

        You do have a bit of a point with babies, but it is still a miserable way to fly.

        As for the phones, they are basically a menace to any sort of restful flight. The vast majority of cell phone users don't realize that you don't have to yell into them to be heard. I have one myself, and most of the time I can't hear myself and the microphone still picks it up sufficiently for the other party to hear my clearly.

        Limiting the cell phone use on plans to a specific walled off area would be fine by me, but expecting me or the flight attendants to moderate how loud is too loud because people invariably don't care is fundamentally unreasonable.
        • by vtcodger (957785) on Friday October 19 2007, @02:39AM (#21037575)
          Yes, that's correct. Tests in Canada have shown that as altitude increases, the likelyhood of getting a cellular connection drops to about zero. And at jet aircraft speeds, you'd have to switch from cell tower to cell tower much faster than is thought to be possible, so even if you got a connection, you probably couldn't keep it for more than 40 seconds or so.

          I assume that they plan to put a cellular transceiver on the aircraft and use some specialized technology to get the signals from the airplane to the ground -- satellite or some special mode of dealing with ground stations or something.

          Anyway, just when I thought that they couldn't find any more ways on top of miniscule seats with no leg room, long unexplained takeoff delays, intrusive security, losing baggage, scheduling impossible connections, overbooking, and chronically late flights to make airline travel more distasteful, they've come up with this. I rarely do airplanes any more, and the last time I did, it took me something like 36 hours to get from Burlington, VT to Seattle.

      • by Martin Blank (154261) on Friday October 19 2007, @01:39AM (#21037177) Journal
        I've seen flight attendants get very upset with passengers who swear that their phones are in airplane mode, and who offer to show the current setting. Some of them do not allow for anything that looks like a phone to even appear operational.

        They also miss the wireless notebooks that are operational and probing for their home networks.
      • by shmlco (594907) on Friday October 19 2007, @02:20AM (#21037455) Homepage
        Allow SMS/text messaging only. No voice. Then we can have peace and quiet, and bozo business types who're afraid to be out of touch for an hour or so can still communicate with their underlings.
        • by QuickFox (311231) on Friday October 19 2007, @02:38AM (#21037571)
          My cellphone can be set to emit horribly shrill bleeps at every single keypress. MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
          • by xaxa (988988) on Friday October 19 2007, @06:32AM (#21038779)
            Many long-distance trains in the UK have a "quiet coach" where they ask people not to use mobile phones, personal stereos, children etc. The difference is, of course, that it's very easy to move from the quiet coach to another one if you need to make a call (or the reverse), not so easy on a plane (more people to climb over, less space).

            Hmm... I wonder how long it'll be before mobile phones can be used in the Channel Tunnel? You're only underground for 20 minutes though (it's 30 miles).