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Another Sony Rootkit?
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ScuttleMonkey
on Mon Aug 27, 2007 09:40 AM
from the slow-learners dept.
from the slow-learners dept.
An anonymous reader writes to tell us F-Secure is reporting that the drivers for Sony Microvault USB sticks uses rootkit techniques to hide a directory from the Windows API. "This USB stick with rootkit-like behavior is closely related to the Sony BMG case. First of all, it is another case where rootkit-like cloaking is ill advisedly used in commercial software. Also, the USB sticks we ordered are products of the same company — Sony Corporation. The Sony MicroVault USM-F fingerprint reader software that comes with the USB stick installs a driver that is hiding a directory under "c:\windows\". So, when enumerating files and subdirectories in the Windows directory, the directory and files inside it are not visible through Windows API. If you know the name of the directory, it is e.g. possible to enter the hidden directory using Command Prompt and it is possible to create new hidden files. There are also ways to run files from this directory. Files in this directory are also hidden from some antivirus scanners (as with the Sony BMG DRM case) — depending on the techniques employed by the antivirus software. It is therefore technically possible for malware to use the hidden directory as a hiding place."
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Games: BioShock Installs a Rootkit 529 comments
An anonymous reader writes "Sony (the owner of SecureROM copy protection) is still up to its old tricks. One would think that they would have learned their lesson after the music CD DRM fiasco, which cost them millions. However, they have now started infesting PC gaming with their invasive DRM. Facts have surfaced that show that the recently released PC game BioShock installs a rootkit, which embeds itself into Explorer, as part of its SecureROM copy-protection scheme. Not only that, but just installing the demo infects your system with the rootkit. This begs the question: Since when did demos need copy protection?"
Firehose:Another Sony rootkit ( and its not Bioshock ) by Anonymous Coward
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Sony (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Sony (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.theparticle.com/)
Re:Sony (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.spamgourmet.com/)
So, are rootkits entertainment or technology?
Re:Sony (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sony (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.legalresourcecentre.ca/)
MD disks were actually very successful across asia. They didn't find a market in North America. In the same span they have also created the 3.5 inch floppy, the CD, and had a bit of input on the DVD. It's be more accurate to describe their format strategies as being hit and miss since they have been part of some huge dogs (beta, UMD) and some very successful formats (CDs, 3.5 inch floppies).
Re:Sony (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/atd7/)
As to DVD - Not sure about the original DVD format, but Sony effectively created the recordable DVD format war with the + series of formats.
And yes, Sony had a role in VHS vs. Beta - Beta was Sony's format.
Re:Sony (Score:5, Informative)
(http://zulupad.gersic.com/)
Re:Sony (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.legalresourcecentre.ca/)
Re:Sony (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.ceyah.org/~jandrese/ | Last Journal: Thursday September 13, @11:11AM)
Re:Sony (Score:5, Interesting)
Since I was there, I pulled out a Sony camera I was trying to get a USB cable for. Again, no deal. This camera was North American Sony, and they didn't have those kinds of Sony cables in Japan.
Sigh. This insistence on ignoring standards and doing everything themselves - not even consistently across the world - bugs me like hell. I doubt I'll buy any more Sony consumer electronics until they get it. Hope they do - they know how to make nicely designed bits of technology.
Re:Sony (Score:4, Interesting)
I went there, but no luck. They do not sell laptops in Serbia (mine was brought from UK), so they gave me the telephone of one repair shop, but they were not sure if they could help me. Repair shop sent me to another repair shop, and so on... After three hops, they explained me what's the issue. Sony has very rigid standards for their repair shops. To be their certified repairmen, you have to guarantee that you'll solve all problems in 24 hours. They were not able to find anyone capable of that in Serbia, so they don't have any repair shop in Serbia.
That's very interesting policy. Instead to give second class service to your customers, you give them - none.
Re:Sony (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.fred08.com/)
Which in turn provides first class metrics applauded by upper management.
Re:Sony (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday April 12 2007, @09:41AM)
Re:Sony (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday November 08, @06:00PM)
Hype here notwithstanding, this is not a "rootkit". It seems to be a bizarre form of write-protection.
Re:Sony (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)
Re:Sony (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/51ebe/ | Last Journal: Monday August 20, @09:15PM)
Re:Sony (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)
Re:A virus could put its files in the hidden folde (Score:4, Interesting)
%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
Or this one?
%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\OLK6F
Maybe one this windows built in rootkit folder?
c:\$Extend
c:\$AttrDef
c:\$BadClus
c:\$Bitmap
c:\$Boot
c:\$LogFile
c:\$Secure
c:\$Volume
All which the handy SysInternals hides as "Standard NTFS Metadata Files" by default.
The existence of these files/folders are hidden to most users and most of them don't even know about them. You think virus scanners check the c:\$Extend folder? Is someone willing to drop in a known virus and see if it detects it? Honestly, I'm curious as to how many actually check this folder...
Re:Sony (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)
Re:Sony (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.ajs.com/~ajs/)
Please note: this software simply creates a directory that is hidden from the Windows API for its fingerprint authentication. It's not actually a rootkit, just using one of the many tools of the trade of rootkits. The concern is that the hidden directory is hidden from all of the Windows API, including virus scanners, and thus could be used by malicious software to hide infected files.
I'm not sure that it's reasonable to accuse Sony of distributing a rootkit when they've simply distributed software which uses a technique that could accidentally help malicious software.
It's also probably a bad thing to keep swinging the rootkit-bat around like this. The next time some large corporation really tries to root all of their customers' machines, no one will believe the story.
Re:Sony (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.covenantspice.com/)
Please note the defenition of "rootkit," ripped from the beginning of the rootkit wikipedia article:
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, yada yada yada.
If it looks like a duck... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.ibboard.co.uk/)
Then lawyers for some large corporation will argue that it's actually some previously rare form of feathered marsupial?
Re:Sony (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.ajs.com/~ajs/)
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, yada yada yada.
We need to be more careful to cry wolf when there's, you know... a wolf. Otherwise, when some company decides to deploy a real rootkit again, no one is going to listen to us.
You're missing the point. (Score:5, Informative)
(http://skippus.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday June 19 2005, @07:25AM)
The intentions behind the software are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what it does. What this software does is an end-run around the operating system, deliberately hiding things that should not and need not be hidden.
Why shouldn't it be hidden? Because as has already been pointed out, malicious software can take advantage of the rootkit—which is what this is—as an attack vector to control someone's machine without their knowledge, and with damn little they can do about it.
Please remember also that a lot of computer viruses and worms didn't start out with people saying, "I'm going to write a computer virus today!" They started out with someone saying, "Hmmm... I wonder if that would work..." and it goes from there. In fact, the guy who is credited with writing the first computer virus [slashdot.org] said, "It was a practical joke combined with a hack. A wonderful hack." Maybe, but it's stupid to deny what it was, a virus, just as it is to deny what this is, a rootkit.
Consider (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Consider (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Saturday August 25, @03:49PM)
Re:Consider (Score:5, Insightful)
Hidden files (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.legalresourcecentre.ca/)
Re:Hidden files (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hidden files (Score:5, Insightful)
And much like their last rootkit, this one can easily be used to cloak files on your system and is pretty much a fantastic place to put your virus. Way to really push the limits, guys.
Re:Hidden files (Score:5, Informative)
"A rootkit is a set of software tools intended to conceal running processes, files or system data from the operating system"
So, it sounds like a rootkit as described by wikipedia.
Wikipedia? (Score:5, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/~Spy+der+Mann/journal/ | Last Journal: Wednesday November 07, @12:32PM)
Not for long! *rushes to edit wikipedia*
"A rootkit is a set of software tools intended to conceal running processes, files or system data from the operating system, except when it's with Sony products"
There! Now by definition, sony's isn't a rootkit anymore!
(Legal Disclaimer: This was actually a joke, I didn't vandalize wikipedia or the like. <-- you can't never be too sure these days)
Re:Hidden files (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.theroughnecks.net/)
Format before use (Score:4, Interesting)
And using OS that won't run anything from the newly attached memry as a default would also help.
Is there a way to permanantly disable this? (Score:2)
Is there anything that would break if one was to find a way to nullify this functionality in OS calls?
Ryan Fenton
Why? (Score:2, Insightful)
tsk tsk tsk... (Score:4, Insightful)
kiosk (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.solussd.com/)
Wow... (Score:5, Interesting)
This is also nothing new in terms of USB drives. I have a USB flash drive, which I can't remember the name of, that essentially keeps a secure partition hidden from Windows unless you run a special app to put in a password to make it visible to Windows.
Re:Wow... (Score:4, Insightful)
The intent is irrelevant w.r.t. the fact whether or not it uses rootkit-like behavior to implement it.
It is obvious that user fingerprints cannot be in a world writable file on the disk when we are talking about secure authentication.
This is why file access permissions/restrictions where invented in the 1970's.
That is a completely different technique at about 10 different levels. Of course the driver of some USB device may chose to reserve parts of the storage on said USB device for internal usage such that it cannot be (easily) accessed by normal means (i.e. the API offered by said driver). However, "cloaking" parts of the driver itself using rootkit-like mechanisms has, well, about nothing in common with such techniques.
Rootkits aside... (Score:1)
(http://www.linicks.net/)
The issue here is the biometric stuff. If your CC number gets stolen, or your password gets hacked, you can simply cancel the old CC/reset your account etc.
Now, what happens when your data 'fingerprint' [retina scan, whatever] gets hacked and compromised? Get new fingers? Get new eyeballs (ala Tom Cruise!)?. I think not. The sooner people learn not ot buy and trust this crap the better - but thinking, perhaps the people that buy this crap deserve a MS designed rootkit anyway.
You can't solve this on a single system. (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.scarydevil.com/~peter/ | Last Journal: Monday September 26 2005, @06:53PM)
This is an inherent problem in biometrics: you have to trust every scanner that takes a reading not to be trapdoored.
The entire authentication process has to be performed verifiably in the scanner hardware and firmware, and the scanner itself had to be trusted - either it's your scanner or it belongs to someone you have to trust anyway.
But no reversible form of the biometric information can be transferred to potentially untrusted storage.
Re:Rootkits aside... (Score:5, Insightful)
How is this *NOT* a rootkit? This is the very definition of one!
Look at the bright side (Score:1)
A Nasty Trick (Score:5, Interesting)
So whenever he ran a common command from his shell, he would first get a random quote from fortune appearing, followed by normal command output. He figured it out pretty quickly, but I like to think that there were a few moments where he entertained the idea of his workstation gaining sentience.
SUCKERS! What did you expect? (Score:2, Insightful)
How fucking stupid can you people be? Stop buying Sony! [mcgrew.info]
-mcgrew
what a bunch of weasels (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Monday April 16 2007, @01:18PM)
the classy term is "recidivist."
of the others, we can probably safely post "weasel," "snake," "bastard," "crook," and "lowlife."
HDTV is around the bend, and I'm remodelling the basement soon to accomodate its new wiring requirements. Sony, the snake-in-a-box company, is not going to be a part of this undertaking.
Desensitized (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.unity08.com/)
Not an Accident (Score:2)