Microsoft to Buy DoubleClick? 195
roscoetoon writes to tell us Bloomberg is reporting that Microsoft is in talks to buy DoubleClick. Seen as a move to compete against the Google advertising engine Double Click owners Hellman & Friedman are seeking a $2 billion payday. "The purchase would give Microsoft tools to battle Google Inc. for ads that appear on Web sites. DoubleClick works with advertisers to create online campaigns, such as streaming video clips to promote New Line Cinema's movie "The Number 23." The New York-based company's Dart technology monitors the performance of Internet ads for marketing companies."
Micosoft? (Score:3, Informative)
Micosoft.com is under construction (Score:4, Funny)
I can't wait!
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174297&thresh
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Valuations (Score:3, Funny)
DoubleClick = 2?
Your thoughts?
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But they aren't the same sort of acquisitions so I think it's a coincidence.
Internet Bubble Mk.II (Score:4, Insightful)
Like last time, eventually investors will panic when they contemplate the very expensive pile of hot air they will have accumulated, and yet again the bubble will burst dramatically, sucking up billions of dollars that could have been invested in companies that actually make something and / or actually provide a service, and causing another European and North American recession.
Meanwhile, I'm investing all of my money in tulip bulbs.
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eventually investors will panic when they contemplate the very expensive pile of hot air they will have accumulated, and yet again the bubble will burst dramatically
In the mean time the people who orchestrated the event, having named themselves the execs and CEOs of both the investment firms and the hot air companies, will have portioned out to themselves a majority of the billions of dollars. The money doesn't just get sucked up--it gets laundered and funnelled back to the top of the pyramid.
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Stock Brokers drive the stock market to suit their needs, not that of the investors or the companies that form the stock market, or a countries economy.
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Youtube = 1.6 billion DoubleClick = 2? Your thoughts?
My copies of AdBlock don't block YouTube.
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I wonder if Doubleclick would get the prize for being the most blocked internet domain.
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127.0.0.1 www.youtube.com
There, fixed it for you.
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Is this the same doublclick that gets special treatment in my
$ sudo cat
127.0.0.1 www.doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 www2.doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 ww3.doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 www.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 ad.us..doubleclick.com
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Just one more reason for people to hate MS (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Just one more reason for people to hate MS (Score:4, Interesting)
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http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/16/1
Seriously, who doesn't filter DoubleClick? (Score:5, Informative)
If you use Firefox, snag Adblock Plus [mozilla.org] and the Filterset.G Updater [mozilla.org]. If you're using Internet Destr-- Er, I mean Internet Explorer, woe is you, but at least snag the Google Toolbar [google.com], which I think blocks DoubleClick ads.
Re:Seriously, who doesn't filter DoubleClick? (Score:5, Funny)
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I've been using Filterset.G for a long time too, but I just switched to EasyList and EasyElement. This [adblockplus.org] part of the Adblock Plus FAQ helped me make that decision (in summary, Filterset.G sometimes whitelists ads, and it uses complicated regexes that slow down browsing).
Re:Seriously, who doesn't filter DoubleClick? (Score:5, Interesting)
To back up all the way to the beginning, a couple of years ago, I got a call from a recruiter about a job with a small local company that was writing some software that would allow people to track advertising campaigns. I interviewed, and felt rather ambivalent about them... they seemed like they were writing decent software, but I'm over the whole startup thing, and spending 80 hours in the office. They passed on me. At the time I was a little upset, even though I wasn't all that interested in them. As my neighbor put it, "It's like when the ugly girl doesn't want to dance with you."
A while later, I saw some of the guys who interviewed me walking around the building I worked in. I checked the building directory, but the company wasn't on the list. So I hit their website, and lo and behold, they'd been bought by Doubleclick.
Whew. Dodged a bullet. I mean, Doubleclick. Yikes. I'm past the point in my life where I can walk out of a job on principle without another job already lined up, and I'm still paranoid from the bust.
So I tell the recruiter all this, and I don't really mince words about my opinion concerning Doubleclick.
He submitted me anyway.
I got a call a couple days later from someone. It was outside normal business hours, and I normally don't answer numbers I don't recognize during my off time, but a good friend of mine was expecting the birth of his son any day, so I answered just in case. I was in a guitar shop at the time, and couldn't hear too well, but they were talking about the opportunity at Doubleclick. I assumed it was another recruiter, so I went into my whole spiel about my history with the other company, how glad I wasn't working for them when they were acquired, and how distasteful I found Doubleclick.
I guess there's really no suspense here. Naturally, the guy I was talking to was the hiring manager over at Doubleclick, and I had just unloaded on him. In fact, I do believe I mentioned being "glad I don't have that stain on my resume."
I felt pretty horrible. It was an accident, and I'm sure the poor guy didn't want to work at Doubleclick any more than I did. But still... in retrospect, it was pretty funny.
Even funnier was the fact that Doubleclick had an office in our building. When I told a coworker the story the following day, she pointed out that, undoubtedly, someone on the second floor was telling the exact same story :)
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You mean Insecure Exploder?
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FYI, Adblock Plus advises against Filterset.G [adblockplus.org] - they have their own sets of filters that work better.
I still use it out of ignorance because it works just fine for me TYVM.
Re:Seriously, who doesn't filter DoubleClick? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Try one of the easy to get hosts files. Not only does it getting ads from doubleclick, it also prevents software on your machine from calling home from an app other than the browser. The hosts file is compatible Windows and Linux systems. Google toolbar works in the browser. A hosts file wor
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IE7pro extension for IE7 has an Ad blocker (Score:2)
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Suddenly a thousand monopoly/competition lawyers start rubbing their hands in glee: MS IE allows by default Google's adSense scripts to run unhindered but Google's Toolbar blocks MS-DoublClick's scripts.
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Re:Just one more reason for people to hate MS (Score:5, Informative)
That said, I wonder what Microsoft could bring to DoubleClick. I'd hate to see Microsoft add various "stealth" techniques that other advertisers use, e.g., frequently rotating hostnames, formats, etc.
If customers are going to block your ads, at least make it easy. They're going to do it either way. The easier you make it, the more those people will remain on those websites, which at least brings you minimal value as an advertiser. When I worked in media, we typically gave clients two different sets of stats for this exact purpose. You don't disclose your traffic count based on your advertising banners/etc, instead you tell them your server stats traffic, which is always higher. Of course, you're selling impressions/clicks/referrals, so the advertiser doesn't actually care if the site users are blocking their ad as long as they get what they paid for. The website, of course, may or may not care, depending on who they are.
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The added readership should raise the valuation of the company very nicely.
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This just in,
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I use Mike's add blocking hosts files [everythingisnt.com] on my three computers that blocks advertising related communication with DoubleClick and other similar advertising related URL's. The modified hosts file takes the attempts to communicate with them and diverts them to the 127.0.0.1 loop back address on my computers. I use one of their modified hosts files on all three of my computers. One of the computers is a Windows 2000, another runs Windows XP and the third runs Ubuntu Linux. The modified hosts file trick works
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Really? Just wait for the next Patch Tuesday...
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Sure it will! Now I've got two reasons to block those ads if I wasn't blocking them before.
Execellent! One less advertiser... (Score:2)
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Perfect match (Score:5, Funny)
Privacy Issues? (Score:4, Insightful)
What could only add to the mix would be Microsoft + Double Click + Homeland Security (and maybe throw AT&T into the mix as well)
Transporter_ii
Not so bloated any more! (Score:2)
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MS should know when to give up (Score:5, Insightful)
Their roaring success: DOS + Windows was not achieved by taking away market share from others (ie. Apple etc), but by going into a new market. They used illegal means to get Office in place.
Whenever they have tried to eat into an existing market where they cannot leverage Windows they have failed miserably: Zune, MSN, .... Their aquisitions are much the same: hotmail...
Doubleclick is likely to end up on the junk pile too.
Where did you go yesterday? (Score:5, Interesting)
Nonsense (Score:5, Insightful)
Tried to eat into an existing market with Hotmail? Hotmail was the market - it's all the others that are the followers here. Some did it better of course, but MS were not trying to take away market share from others. They were trying to prevent losing users to web-based interfaces which they did not own.
Zune and MSN...yep, agreed. Doubleclick - different class. It's not an end-user product, and due to this I rather suspect they'll do well with it. MS do cater to developers and API users pretty well, and that's what you're talking about when it comes to an advert site. In the end it can only be good to have two vast firms competing for your site's space and offering you cash accordingly.
Well, good for the site creator of course. For me, I mutter a few words of gratitude for AdBlock and Pithhelmet and then carry on regardless.
Cheers,
Ian
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At the time I had no idea what Microsoft were doing. I just got so utterly sick of trying to use Netscape that I started casting about for any alternative. IE wasn't great, but it was faster. In 33/56k modem days the speed of IE was an awesome advantage, even if it didn't have the features. I didn't care about what was happening to Netscape, but at that point I had only just got back into computing after an eight year break.
I did
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no, the FACT of the matters is, they beat them by leveraging there vast fortune to give away, and later include IE into the OS. IE was no better the Netscape.
This is not a myth, there was some sort of court case about it. It might have been mentioned on
Of course, MS bought Hotmail, and with that purchase, all smart innovation with Hotmail came to a halt.
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They did? And what would those be?
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Cite? And I don't mean Novell suing Microsoft for their inability to prop up a product that fell behind Word in the early 90s - I mean one of these "incompatibilities" or mythic "hidden APIs" that actually caused WP to stop working on a given version of Windows.
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Protocols != APIs. Not to mention the fact that it was RealNetworks that pushed for the EU to force Microsoft to remove WMP from Windows.
OK, aside from the obvious problem here with whining about how Microsoft should not be allowed to change a beta, how did these changes not affect anyone else again?
No, the problem is that like Microsoft and the internet
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Oh wait.
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Feel free, MS... (Score:3, Insightful)
Me too. Plus a question (Score:2)
I think that should be an installation option on the new generation (Cf. ubuntu) of desktop distros.
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The only thing that concerns me is as someone else has said, they start rotating the hosts or even outright dropping "doubleclick" anywhere in the domain name so those filters no longer work.
If the ads suddenly start coming from Microsoft.com servers suddenly trying to block them would cause issues getting updates and patches.
I can see it now, the new Eula and Verification tool, in order to access MS Updates you
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Don't worry, next Patch Tuesday will restore your full internet experience for you...
"Where do you want to click today?"
like google (Score:3, Interesting)
Just what we need (Score:4, Funny)
Just so long... (Score:5, Funny)
Let's see... (Score:3, Insightful)
Can msft "fix" the filtering? (Score:2)
I won't notice.... (Score:2)
DansGuardian Content Filter [dansguardian.org]
Domain Block of Ad-Servers [yoyo.org].
Nope...I won't notice at all.
This could be dangerous, actually (Score:3, Insightful)
Think operating systems, browser, and office "features" here, people. The features gather more and more information as time goes on. Its already been happening over the last 5-10 years so the trend is certainly in that direction. I mean, thus far, Mr. Softie has been pretty easy (all things considered) on how much data he sends back home but I am sure things could be configured differently to gather a whole new set of information. A much larger, complex, and more intrusive set of information. And then they can market based on that data (DoubleClick). Like Google, cept Google doesn't have an operating system sitting on every damn computer in the world.
It could get very very ugly. I can envision several nasty things that I would do and thats only thinking about it 5 min.
Access to customers (data) + Marketing/advertising = big revenues for the seller of marketing and advertising products. That's what we are talking about here -- selling ads.
Yawn (Score:2)
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If you're using Windows and blocked Microsoft sites on your hosts file, Windows will ignore it and still connect to them [slashdot.org]. If they get DoubleClick, I wont be surprised if the same thing happens with their servers.
Ads on Web pages? (Score:2)
23! Ah-ah-ah... (Score:2)
Shouldn't that be.. (Score:2)
Wrong Half, M$ (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, but, fear the other possibilities (Score:3, Informative)
I totally agree with what you said. However, there is another angle. People are going to mind seeing all of these things in a web browser, and they're going to use firefox and various plugins to get around them. Yes.
But my guess is Microsoft has more insidious plans. (Don't they always?) They control your desktop, remember? Now imagine instead of those ads popping up in the browser you can pick and control, they pop up on your desktop. They become part of the OS, such that you can't remove them wit
doubleclick ?? (Score:2)
In other news... (Score:3, Funny)
This is good! (Score:5, Funny)
This will be absolute nirvana! Why? Because they sure as hell won't put out those bullshit DRM infected formats for linux, and I will never have to see their ads again. I won't even have to install a plugin to avoid them. Oh happy day.
-Charlie
DoubleCluck the most blocked ad server? (Score:2)
Like Yahoo and Overture. (Score:3, Interesting)
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http://www.doubleclick.com/us/about_doubleclick/p
DoubleClick is pretty darn non-evil, unless you hate advertising for some reason.
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http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/01/25/23 56236 [slashdot.org]
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/03/28/12 46200 [slashdot.org]
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/25/17 49232 [slashdot.org]
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/27/12 21252 [slashdot.org]
They claime to ahve turned over a new leaf, but I doubt MS has.
MS whose plan is to track you whenever you log into any system.
Seriously, that's one of there plans. SO no mattter what compute