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Windows Guru Calls For IE7 Boycott
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on Tue Aug 02, 2005 02:13 PM
from the it's-that-bad dept.
from the it's-that-bad dept.
Anonymous Cowherd writes "Paul Thurrott, a journalist that usually writes about all things Windows related (and sometimes about Apple affairs too), made a call in a recent article to boycott Internet Explorer, due to Microsoft's approach (continued in IE7) of not supporting web standards: 'My advice here is simple: Boycott Internet Explorer. It is a cancer on the Web, and must be stopped. IE is insecure and is not standards-compliant, which makes it unworkable for both end users and Web content creators... You can turn the tide by demanding better from Microsoft and using a better alternative Web browser. I recommend and use Mozilla Firefox, but Apple Safari (Mac only) and Opera 8 are both worth considering as well.'"
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Ok with me (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.requisitesystems.com/)
what the hell? (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://sitetheory.com/ | Last Journal: Friday October 24 2003, @10:59AM)
Ok all you web designers out there .... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze)
Re:Ok all you web designers out there .... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.tanningbeds4less.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday November 05 2006, @07:23AM)
Oh yea, that is a great idea to do on our ecommerce server. "Oh, you wanted to spend $2500 with us? Fsck you, your web browser isn't L33t enough". Some how I don't think the boss is gonna appreciate me doing that.
Re:Ok all you web designers out there .... (Score:4, Funny)
Acid2 test looks fine in IE7 (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.pocketgamer.org/)
When in soviet redmond... (Score:3, Funny)
Seriously, when you have as much marketshare as microsoft, forget the w3c -- you ARE the standard.
Get the facts guys.... (Score:3, Informative)
(http://www.ausedcar.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 22 2005, @10:29PM)
our top priority is (and will likely always be) security
First, let's be happy about that. Obviously the more serious problem with IE is the security issues.
He then says:
I want to be clear that our intent is to build a platform that fully complies with the appropriate web standards, in particular CSS 2 ( 2.1, once it's been Recommended).
and further more:
It's pointedly not a compliance test (from the Test Guide: "Acid2 does not guarantee conformance with any specification"
So neither the author nor half of slashdot read anymore then the hyped up Slashdot headline. He specifically says they will be fully compliant and are making that a large issue. Cripes, if you want to have credibility, at least get the real facts straight.
Here's the REAL issue with IE and standards... (Score:3, Insightful)
And they have users locked DEEP into Exchange, Outlook, and Outlook Web Access (OWA). They have also had corporate users develop custom ActiveX controls, yadda yadda.
OWA looks GREAT on IE on Windows. It looks EXACTLY like Outlook 2003, and behaves almost exactly like IE. Which is amazing for a browser! What really sucks, is that it's totally proprietary, which means it works in nothing else, but IT departments STANDARDIZE on it, which means their users are all using it. They are hopelessly dependent on it. And they cannot use Macs (because Safari, Firefox, Opera, and IE 5 for Mac all render it like crap), and they cannot use alternative browsers on a PC. If Microsoft "fixed" IE, they would offend their corporate customers, who are exactly the people they're trying to get billions out of when Vista/IE 7 ship, and that WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Believe me, I get the "fix your browser because NONE of our corporate IT apps work on it!" like every week. And saying "hey, not our fault" doesn't matter to these people. It means they cannot use their apps, or run key business components, on our platform, and there's not much we can do about it to fix things. And it sucks. Microsoft knows this, of course.
Re:Firefox can't even pass acid2... (Score:3, Informative)
(http://pyile.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday December 19 2006, @01:33PM)
You write "can't even" like acid2 is critical or trivial. It exercises part of the CSS standard that Firefox has trouble with, but that does not mean Firefox's CSS support is no better than IE's.