CIA Sculpture Code Partially Cracked 88
A reader wrote in with tidbit about the encrypted sculpture at the CIA's headquarters. One of their analysts, on his own time, after nine years has partially cracked it. I like cool art.
Money will say more in one moment than the most eloquent lover can in years.
Sculpture Information (for those who want to try) (Score:2)
The information says,
Good luck to any Slashdotters who try.
Re:What's that "right side" all about? (Score:1)
"a matter of hours or days" (Score:1)
heh. I'm guessing that, if they really wanted to crack it with their own hardware, they could do it within a matter of minutes, if not seconds...
Alex Bischoff
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Would *you* be able to resist? (Score:1)
I mean -- with those kinds of resources, would you really be able to resist finding out what it says?
Perhaps the undecoded part says "Congratulations, now don't tell.
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Re:I think the clue is buried. (Score:1)
Scryer said:
Well, from what I've been able to find out, yes, it may be in a CIA parking lot. However, it is in Virginia rather than in Maryland. ;)
For those who are interested in seeing for yourself where it is, I've got maps from various online map services and posted the lot of them here [afn.org]. Have fun ;)
Re:Here's everything so far... (Score:3)
A quickie check of the USGS's mapping sites [usgs.gov] reveals that the magic spot isn't quite in Langley, and doesn't even seem to be near any roads. I've got GIFs saved of the finest grain info I could get without paying cash to the USGS; I'll prolly forward them either to the folks doing the crypto breaking or put them on a website somewhere.
Also, yes, they probably DID use the magnetic field to hide it. Specifically, a compass. :) The only USGS maps available of that fine grain are typically topographic maps used by hikers and engineers, or county maps. Most of the topo maps also have magnetic declination marked (how far off magnetic north is from real north) because they're meant for use with a compass and landmarks.
Of interest to those searching--the magic spot seems to be located in Virginia, just outside of Washington, DC along the Virginia/Maryland border. For those ordering maps, the Washington West or Falls Church maps seem to be best bets for finding general area.
I'll also see what other stuff I can dig up with various mapping sites on the net, too (to get road names and whatnot).
As for the bits on getting rid of debris and hiding it underground...that sounds suspiciously to me like it could have been hidden in a cave or possibly an abandoned mine (yes, abandoned mines are fairly common in this part of the country). I wouldn't be at all shocked to see that the key was hidden in a mineshaft...
Good luck!
Here's everything so far... (Score:2)
The Kryptos Code Unmasked
Here are the first three passages of the code on the Kryptos statue as
deciphered by Jim Gillogly, including misspellings (of "illusion," "underground"
and "desperately"). The second passage identifies a location near the C.I.A.
headquarters; the third is taken from Howard Carter's account of the opening of
King Tut's tomb in 1922.
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C.I.A.'s Artistic Enigma Yields All but Final Clue
(June 16, 1999)
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1. Between subtle shading and the absence of light lies the nuance of iqlusion.
2. It was totally invisible.
How's that possible? They used the earth's magnetic field. x The information was
gathered and transmitted undergruund to an unknown location. x Does Langley know
about this? They should: it's buried out there somewhere. x Who knows the exact
location? Only WW. This was his last message. x Thirty-eight degrees fifty-seven
minutes six point five seconds north, seventy-seven degrees eight minutes
forty-four seconds west. ID by rows.
3. Slowly, desparatly slowly, the remains of passage debris that encumbered the
lower part of the doorway was removed.
With trembling hands I made a tiny breach in the upper left-hand corner. And
then, widening the hole a little, I inserted the candle and peered in. The hot
air escaping from the chamber caused the flame to flicker, but presently details
of the room within emerged from the mist. x Can you see anything?
Re:Wrong place for the sculpture? (Score:1)
"The number of suckers born each minute doubles every 18 months."
-jafac's law
Was not sure. (Score:1)
I think the clue is buried. (Score:1)
Re:What's that "right side" all about? (Score:1)
Re:It's been almost entirely cracked. (Score:1)
It's been almost entirely cracked. (Score:1)
Interesting Link (Score:1)
Re:Lots of info about the code (Score:1)
Hint of the day:
"Kryptos" Completed Plaintext. Top Half.
Between subtle shading and the absence of light lies the nuance of illusion. They used the earth's
magnetic field. The information was gathered and
transmitted underground to an unknown location.
The Last 97 Chars:
OBKR
UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
TTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR
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Is it a weapon? (Score:3)
Re:What's that "right side" all about? (Score:1)
One time pad (Score:1)
The real problem here, of course, is that if that's what they did, the message is unbreakable. Any plaintext message is as likely as any other message. Given any plaintext, and the "abcd...kryptos...etc" pattern that I want it to end up as, all I need to do is subtract the plaintext from the final pattern, and I have my one-time pad key.
Now that seems kind of unfair, if it was intended to be a puzzle to solve, so perhaps there's a clue embedded in the plaintext of the first section. Or maybe it's just designed to LOOK like that's the way they did it. :-)
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Re:Is it a weapon? (Score:1)
That again makes me think whether perhaps all heavy objects should fall under export control, as they can be used as weapons.
*runs out of the door demanding SAME RIGHTS FOR ALL WEAPONS just to be hit by a piece of frozen shit being dumped from a plane*
Screw decoding it, get the source! (Score:1)
Then we can use the computations cycles for other things....
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Re:"a matter of hours or days" (Score:1)
neutrino
I've got it! (Score:3)
It's a cookbook!
A cookbook!
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Re:Is it a weapon? (Score:1)
Re:What's that "right side" all about? (Score:2)
Re:Wrong place for the sculpture? (Score:1)
Now, whether or not the NSA should have its own statue, is another question. Actually, sources inform me that they d- {{{p{p{prSAOD"
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wild speculation (Score:2)
Whatever the cypher is it can't be to simple of someone would have broken it by now, that almost certainly rules out any cyphers with operating on individual characters.
The lines themselves are not all the same length (which I would expect means that the block length
the lines are not all of equal length and given the size of the variance it looks like there isn't going to be a common factor of the line lengths apart from one which I imagine means that each line is not a block to itself (see above)
I'd also be suprised if part of one of the blocks was a key if only part of the message had been cracked. If the key was available then all that would be needed is to find the right cypher.
So what does this leave? well I don't know, I enjoy tinkering with crypto but I'm no expert - I'd guess that there must be some form of stream element to whatevers been used.
I think if I speculate any more I'll just make a fool of myself infront of others who do this sort of thing more seriously.
Tom
NY Times URL (w/full text so far) (Score:1)
(free reg. required, of course)
Also has a link to the full text so far. Pretty interesting....
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Re:The final part... (Score:1)
Just a thought
Wrong place for the sculpture? (Score:3)
Let's show 'em (Score:1)
Mis-spellings (Score:2)
It looks like a lot of effort has gone into this - I'm not sure the creator would make mistakes like that without a reason...
Re:What's that "right side" all about? (Score:1)
Re:What's that "right side" all about? (Score:1)
Re:steal the results :) (Score:1)
Solved! (Score:1)
Grrr! vow blob knob box GHQ puffs quill.
Where do we send this? Do I win money?
Hmmm... (Score:1)
OBKR UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNG
part. STILL, we are provided now with vital clues. Someone growling, and the vows of a mysterious quill-smoking blob.
Re:Wrong place for the sculpture? (Score:1)
Re:Wrong place for the sculpture? (Score:1)
OSS operated closely with British Intelligence to obtain and crack Enigma, along with many other Axis cryptosystems.
New distributed.net project? (Score:1)
Lots of info about the code (Score:3)
steal the results :) (Score:1)
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Re:What's that "right side" all about? (Score:1)
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Re:It's been almost entirely cracked. (Score:1)
we know.
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Re:Screw decoding it, get the source! (Score:1)
Especially if you got out without anyone knowing you were there.....
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slow down and think for a second...... (Score:2)
If any slashdotters are attempting this, they'd better look at the text file here [angelfire.com] which shows how far people have got already.
They suspect the message is broken into a number of chunks, which appear to have been encrypted several different ways. They think that the last chunk of the message is encrypted with some kind of one time pad system, meaning the key is the same length as that section of text.
If you want to guess the key then be my guest, but it really would be smarter to try an intelligent attack involving all tools available to you -- computers and wits included.
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Re:I've got it! (Score:1)
Vigenere Cipher??? (Score:1)
I know they are very weak ciphers but it still looks familiar...
Here... link away
http://www.achiever.com/freehm pg/cryptology/vig.html [achiever.com]
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/h ttp/html/people/muth/Cipher/ [arizona.edu]
http://cw.oaktree.co.uk/crypt/vigen ere_doc.html [oaktree.co.uk]
http://sh akti.trincoll.edu/~rmorelli/FYSM122/Cryptograms/C
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Not a bad idea, ask the Ruskies, they have a copy (Score:1)
"It was philosophical and obscure" (Score:1)
What about the morse code characters??? (Score:1)
Where's a moderator when you need one (Score:1)
Re:A Concipracy Theory (Score:1)
Re:Lots of info about the code (Score:1)
Mercury rising? (Score:1)
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A Concipracy Theory (Score:2)
The truth about this sculpture, however, goes deeper than a simple puzzle. This sculpture is the creation of a secret underground organization, spanning multiple governments and religeous institutions. The future has become quite clear to them. World War III is imminent. The antichrist has been located in Egypt. It shall be noted that Nostradamous predicted in the 16th century that the Antichrist would be a man presently living in the Middle East, and educated in Egypt. The opening sentence of the message in the sculpture describes the opening of an ancient egyptian grave. This organization has been secretly planning their part in World War III over the past 10 years. It is unknown to me what their motives are.
Nostradamous predidcted World War III would probably start in July 1999. The people who are decrypted the sculpture do not know about any of this. Are being used as tools. Once the message has been completly decrypted, it will signify the begining of the third and last World-Wide War.
4 last columns of the right side... (Score:1)
What have we got in these 4 columns... Excluding the header (ABCD), we have 26 rows of 4, or 104 characters. If we accept the suggestion (ostensibly from the CIA) that the last 97 characters of te left side are encrypted using a one time pad that is the Vigniere square, we still need a key (presumably one letter for each letter to decrypt). Do the last 4 columns of the right side provide this key?
Consider that the word KRYPTOS has 7 characters, the message we're trying to decrypt has 97, and the block we're looking at has 104...
Just a naive attempt at a guess at a starting point
The FBI allows this? (Score:1)
Remember, you can't trust anyone!
Re:Screw decoding it, get the source! (Score:1)
I'd like to take a crack at it in my spare time, however, that is mostly dedicated to sleeping and eating. Ah well. That's what I get for being the only coder in a small company...
BitPoet
Re:Would *you* be able to resist? (Score:1)
Or maybe:
Re:Wrong place for the sculpture? (Score:1)
The Central Intelligence Agency is its own authority and is staffed exclusively by
Does this make it clear as mud yet?
Ending One Time Pad (Score:1)
It sez.. (Score:1)
Interesting side note (Score:1)
1 row of 29 letters
5 rows of 30 letters
15 rows of 31 letters
5 rows of 32 letters
1 row of 33 letters
Probably doesn't mean anything though.
Re:I think the clue is buried. (Score:1)
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Re:The final part... (Score:1)
The one-time pad has to be as long as the encrypted message. So that's not a possibility. The last part has 81 characters.
"There is no surer way to ruin a good discussion than to contaminate it with the facts."
The final part... (Score:2)
Actually, my theory, and I don't know if it's naive or besides the point... It seems likely that the last portion was encrypted by a one-time pad, at least according to Kryptos. As we know, a one-time pad is unbreakable if the sequence of characters is truly random.
I don't think the artist meant for the cipher to be unbreakable. That means using a truly unbreakable cipher would be besides the point. So, we are left with two theories:
1) The one-time pad used is not truly random, and understanding the pseudo-randomness of the sequence is part of the deal. My guess is, the one-time pad used was something like an encoded message. Perhaps even a previous part of the encoded message?
2) (More plausible, but less interesting) The one-time pad is actually buried at the coordinates specified in the first parts. Has anyone tried to dig there?
Anyway, I bet this is one of those things that'll basically say something inane like, 'Congratulations! You broke the code.' Hey, there's a few crib ideas...
"There is no surer way to ruin a good discussion than to contaminate it with the facts."
Re:Wrong place for the sculpture? (Score:1)
CIA to tell them I'd solved it, they told me
somebody at CIA had already done so. When they
sent me the blurb from a year ago announcing his
talk (he turned out to be David Stein, but that
info was blacked out on the announcement), it
said that found out after he broke it that
a team of three NSA cryppies had broken the same
amount some time earlier.
Nobody has cracked the final 97 characters, though.
Re:Sculpture Information (for those who want to tr (Score:1)
Playfair, and there was on digraphic system in
the three parts so far decrypted. The first two
are polyalphabetic with keyed ciphertext and
plaintext alphabets, and the third is a triple
complete columnar transposition, with different
periods than the guess in that document.
I'm hopeful that the last section is OTP.
Perhaps Running Key, which is like OTP except that
it has a coherent non-repeating key... and there's
a chance that the coherence would be solvable. It
could also be other stuff, of course, like an
autokey or a combination polyalphabetic and
transposition.
Keep plugging...
Re:I think the clue is buried. (Score:1)
is in Glen Echo, MD in a CIA parking lot.
I wonder whether it was a parking lot in 1980.
Think "ID BY ROWS" could relate to parking lot
rows?
Re:Sculpture Information (for those who want to tr (Score:1)
NOT OTP."
The sculptor, Jim Sanborn, wrote that he had
given the "keys" to the cipher in a sealed
envelope to the DCI, so that he could easily
decrypt it all. While one put a OTP
key in there, what would be the point?
Re:"a matter of hours or days" (Score:1)
is overrated. If you have a poor approach, the
best hardware in the world isn't going to crack
the problem. If the cipher is a Beaufort, then
running dedicated Vigenere crackers won't touch
it, no matter how many of them you've got.
Hardware is good, but the program is the important
part. With something like RC5, where you know
what's on the other end, it's a different story
and you can optimize the bejeepers out of it.
With an unknown cipher, simply throwing hardware
at it doesn't cut the mustard.
Re:"It was philosophical and obscure" (Score:1)
envelope (or the triple-sealed envelope,
depending on the story). I suppose he must
have, if he remembered that it was obscure.
What that may mean is that he read the words,
but did not solve the meta-puzzle that will
be evident (according to Sanborn) if the last
part is decrypted.
Re:What about the morse code characters??? (Score:1)