HDMI 2.2 Debuts, With an 'Ultra96' Cable For Tomorrow's Displays (pcworld.com) 49
The HDMI Forum has announced HDMI 2.2, doubling data bandwidth to 96Gbps through new "Ultra96" cables while maintaining compatibility with existing connectors. The specification, scheduled for release to industry adopters in first-half 2025, promises higher resolutions and refresh rates, including 4K at 480Hz and 8K at 240Hz.
A new Latency Indication Protocol aims to improve audio-video synchronization in multi-device setups. The Forum emphasized applications in AR/VR, medical imaging, and digital signage. Implementation requires both new Ultra96-certified cables and compatible devices, with anti-counterfeit measures included in packaging.
A new Latency Indication Protocol aims to improve audio-video synchronization in multi-device setups. The Forum emphasized applications in AR/VR, medical imaging, and digital signage. Implementation requires both new Ultra96-certified cables and compatible devices, with anti-counterfeit measures included in packaging.
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As to your example, Lightning had analog capabilities USB-C did not, so if a manufacturer of a speaker wanted to put a dock on the top, it was easy with lightning, because
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USB Type C does have an analog stereo audio mode. The trouble is, the one connector supports too many things, and you don't know if the devices on each end will support a given feature.
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USB-C delivers less power to your battery than lightning did, per watt of input.
That sounds suspiciously like not true. It's going to depend entirely on the efficiency of the battery charging chip inside the phone. Except for the newest USB-C PD with PPS you can charge the battery directly from the power supply without any loss from power conversion chips in your phone.
and received L-G-R audio signals you could send into an amp. No chips needed.
Apart from the amplifier chip, and the regulator to run 5V up t
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They do different things. DisplayPort carries additional signals for things like USB. HDMI has a variant that CAN carry ethernet, but the signals are different. When you have for example a display with a camera or a touchscreen, those peripherals will use one cable with DisplayPort, but not HDMI. Different standards exist for a reason.
There's really no good reason for DisplayPort to exist anymore. We should have adapters to convert USB-C to DisplayPort for compatibility with older monitors, but newer monitors should have HDMI and USB-C/Thunderbolt going forwards. When used with older computers, use a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter and a USB to USB-C cable, and you're preserved backwards compatibility without needing the extra legacy DisplayPort port. And that frees up space for more USB-C ports and HDMI ports for compatibility with a lar
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Lightning had analog capabilities USB-C did not
The USB standard literally defines "Audio Adapter Accessory" as an alternate mode for the USB-C connector. Analogue audio is sent through the USB2.0 differential pairs, and it also supports microphones through the sideband pins.
So you better come up with a different reason why you like Lightning especially since you can't actually send analogue audio through the lightning connector without a chip, the chip you can't see just happens to be in the connector of the 3.5mm adapter.
lightning was more power efficient
Lightning was not more power ef
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Lightning had analog capabilities USB-C did not
Bullshit. USB calls it "Audio Accessory Mode".
lightning was more power efficient. USB-C delivers less power to your battery than lightning did, per watt of input
This is also complete horseshit. Every Lightning cable has a DRM chip which limits maximum current to just over 40 watts and is itself a drain. Lightning is also limited to 5 volts, while USB with Type C can use higher voltages which result in less loss for a given amount of power delivered.
Lastly, lightning's port was marginally thinner. That allowed for either thinner devices, or left room for other components
The difference is negligible.
it isnt like USB-C was better in every way.
The one and only way in which Lightning is supposedly better is that it can handle more sideways force. It is inferior in literally every other w
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HDMI has already won this for all intents and purposes.
Hardly any laptops come with DisplayPort anymore.
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Most mainstream laptops still have an HDMI port, including non-gaming laptops. This include my work laptops, and most laptops featured in BestBuy store.
I've never seen a laptop with a "lightning" connector however. Did you mean Thunderbolt? It's quite expensive and only available on high end laptops. A lot of cheap laptops still don't even support USB-C DP alt mode.
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DisplayPort isn't dead on laptops. The USB-C ports are muxed internally to do USB, Thunderbolt, DisplayPort, or a combination of the three. It is now a single connector (which is what the EU wanted) for multiple purposes. On that same note, my main laptops have done away with HDMI as well, because DisplayPort basically won, and you now need DP (USB-C cabled) adapters to get HDMI video output.
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Maybe this is how HDMI should evolve, where it can work over a regular HDMI cable, an Ultra96 cable, or work over USB. This way, a machine wouldn't need a HDMI port specifically, but with a "USB to HDMI" adapter, it would allow easy workings with a monitor. Only downside is that people may get confused why they plug some PC into a monitor, nothing works, and they didn't realize it didn't have HDMI capabilities.
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Except for every single one of them with Thunderbolt of any kind at all.
Re:Time for the EU again? (Score:5, Informative)
HDMI won the TV (including gaming consoles) market, but DP is still strong in the PC segment.
Let's take a random Geforce video card: https://m.media-amazon.com/ima... [media-amazon.com]
It has 3 DP and only 1 HDMI. DP is often the preferred connection. Some PCs also historically supported higher resolution on DP compared to HDMI.
Lenovo's USB-C dock has 2 DP and only 1 HDMI
https://m.media-amazon.com/ima... [media-amazon.com]
HDMI on PCs is mainly to connect to TVs.
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Let's take a random Geforce video card: ...
It has 3 DP and only 1 HDMI. DP is often the preferred connection.
That may just be real estate. A DP connector is (slightly) smaller than an HDMI connector
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The size difference is marginal between HDMI and DP. We are not talking about mini-DP or Display Port alt mode on USB-C here.
Re: Time for the EU again? (Score:1)
Laptops make up 80% of PC shipments, and 95% of Mac shipments.
No one cares what NVIDIA gamers are using.
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Well I connect my laptop to a dock and my dock has more DP than HDMI ports.
Otherwise laptops increasingly have USB-C ports with DP alt mode (or Thunderbolt) and therefore have neither regular HDMI or DP connectors. But yes, it is true that HDMI is still more common on laptops as the sole full-size video output connector. Mini display ports were popular a few years ago but not anymore.
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My 4060 Ti 16GB has two HDMI and two DP.
It really has to do with what they think is wanted in their market segment.
Nvidia correctly estimated that people who buy this card are using old displays or TVs.
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Nothing to do with Nvidia, but your board's manufacturer.
Most 4060 Ti have more DP than HDMI. Such as this one from MSI (Ventus GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB ):
https://c1.neweggimages.com/pr... [neweggimages.com]
Nvidia's spec even list 1x HDMI and 3x DP as "standard connectors" for this board:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/g... [nvidia.com]
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Compared to what?
https://www.rtings.com/monitor... [rtings.com]
DP 1.2 was released in 2010 and had the largest bandwidth until HDMI 2.1 in 2017. HDMI 2.0 released in 2013 didn't even match DP 1.2.
Then DP 2.1 surpassed HDMI 2.1 in 2019, with again much more bandwidth. HDMI is catching up to DP most of the time, not the other way around.
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Actual market penetration.
Current high-end gaming systems with high-Hz monitors are mostly using HDMI 2.1 right now because that's what monitors and video cards actually ended up implementing first.
NVIDIA just finally added DP 2.1 in their Geforce 50 cards. The 4090 still shipped with DP 1.4a.
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DP 1.4a can do 3840x2160@120 Hz or 2560x1440@251 Hz. Sure, HDMI 2.1 can do a bit more, but most people don't care at this point.
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HDMI won the TV (including gaming consoles) market, but DP is still strong in the PC segment.
Let's take a random Geforce video card: https://m.media-amazon.com/ima... [media-amazon.com]
It has 3 DP and only 1 HDMI. DP is often the preferred connection. Some PCs also historically supported higher resolution on DP compared to HDMI.
Lenovo's USB-C dock has 2 DP and only 1 HDMI
https://m.media-amazon.com/ima... [media-amazon.com]
HDMI on PCs is mainly to connect to TVs.
I just wish that it weren't initialised to DP... I don't really want my new graphics card to have 3 double penetrations.
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I have one of those mini-desktops (about 4 inches by 5 inches) and it has HDMI , DP and USC-c for connecting monitors.
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Well, when was the last time you saw DP?
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You mean the connector? There's literally one on my desk right now plugged into the monitor I bought new 2 months ago.
Or do you mean the porn style? About an 30min ago. I post on Slashdot during my moments of post-nut clarity.
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Most displays support both, so there's no compatibility issue. Apple could make a phone with two connectors, USB-C and whatever else they want, they just chose not to.
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The EU saw it fit to knock out Apple Lightning in favour of USB-C, in order to reduce cable wastage.
No they didn't. In fact cables weren't mentioned at all in the legislation, cables aren't a toxic e-waste problem, and above everything the EU's rules didn't do anything to address cable waste given the incompatibilities between various USB standards and cables.
Isn't it time we just went with either DisplayPort or HDMI, and just have the one video cable standard?
We should also abolish Linux and Mac and have just Windows. That will simplify things too. Maybe get rid of all cars other than those with V6 NA engines. Yeah nothing bad every has come from a lack of options.
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DP is basically irrelevant these days. Try connecting to a projector with DP in a random lecture hall....
HDMI at least (usually) works.
Unblockable advertisements (Score:3, Insightful)
What's with the ads bleeding through even with uBlock origin? I can't even manually block them using the tool.
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What's with the ads bleeding through even with uBlock origin? I can't even manually block them using the tool.
They're sporadically dicking around with "html-load.com" inclusions and it's very annoying. I've had luck blocking all the "as.slashdot.com" sub-domains to prevent the ads from appearing. Can't seem to get rid of the white-space though... Thankfully, it's not all the time -- yet. If that happens and the site becomes unreadable, I might have to bail on /. after many, many - many - years.
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Thanks for that. adding those two sites to the hosts file seemed to have worked, even for white space... but who knows how long that will work. Wish Slashdot would bring ad-free subscriptions back.
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Disable javascript, and deal with the clunky interface but be ad free.
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What's with the ads bleeding through even with uBlock origin? I can't even manually block them using the tool.
And it's so fucking slow!
The ads seem to come through about 5 seconds later, while the page jerks up and down.
Enshittification.
There was a submission some time ago, but the story was mysteriously spiked...
Marketing opportunity. (Score:2)
new "Ultra96" cables
Monster Cable will license their name to someone selling gold-plated versions.
[ Then Trump will sue them asserting that's his thing. :-) ]
only $99.99 for an 6FT monster cable! (Score:2)
only $99.99 for an 6FT monster cable!
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Indeed. Make that at least $999.99 to be taken somewhat seriously.
Screw compatability with existing connectors (Score:2)
I hate whoever named it. (Score:2)
Oh yes, an arbitrary specification is the best way for the public to remember what is important about that cable. That it has a 96 on it.
Guessing the same morons from the USB forum(s).
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Guessing the same morons from the USB forum(s).
Probably. These people do not understand that at some point no new standard is needed for quite a while. Or maybe they do but are unable to find other jobs due to limited skills...
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Oh yes, an arbitrary specification is the best way for the public to remember what is important about that cable. That it has a 96 on it.
Guessing the same morons from the USB forum(s).
"Ultra 69" would've been nicer.
cables cables (Score:2)
I spend more money on cables than on computers.