Windows 11 Getting Multiple Monitor Refresh Rate Improvements (theverge.com) 39
Microsoft is making it a lot more convenient to use multiple high refresh rate monitors with Windows 11. From a report: The software giant has started testing a Windows 11 update that automatically adjusts refresh rates on multiple monitors depending on what content is being displayed, which should improve power usage and could even result in some GPUs spinning up their fans less often. "We have improved refresh rate logic to allow different refresh rates on different monitors, depending on the refresh rate for each monitor and content shown on the screen," explains Microsoft in a Windows Insider blog from last week. "This will help most with refresh rate-dependent multitasking, like playing a game and watching a video at the same time." If you have multiple monitors that support high refresh rates then running them at their full potential often increases the power draw of your GPU. Nvidia RTX 30- and 40-series Founders Edition cards also have a zero RPM mode, which will keep the fans at zero even when you're watching video content on a single monitor. If you add a second high refresh rate display, this often disables the zero RPM mode and means the GPU keeps its fans spinning if you have both monitors at high refresh rates.
will it have an CRT mode to force higher ones (Score:3)
will it have an CRT mode to force higher ones at all times if needed?
Windows 11 improvements I wish for (Score:1)
- performance improvement. Explorer takes 10 seconds to do anything (e.g. open a context menu when I rightclick a file). This should be instant. Clicking on the taskbar should get an immediate response too, now it takes 10-30 seconds for a program to come to the foreground. In general, my (recent) computer now "idles" at 50% CPU from all of the cloud sync, antivirus, search indexing, and whatever the fuck the thing is doing.
- turn back the idiotic changes to the taskbar. Copying MacOS made the taskbar objec
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At least try insults that are minimally credible. May also want to dial back the fascist mind-set.
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Re:Windows 11 improvements I wish for (Score:4, Interesting)
Hate to break this to you, but my I updated both of the three year old PCs on my desk at work back around April and I don't have any of the problems you're complaining about with Windows 11... including the taskbar ones (though the start menu is moderately less useful, and I have a couple of users that are livid that they can't change which edge the taskbar docks at).
With that said, one of my colleagues did spend a couple of days playing with our proposed Win11 deployment image to make it work the way we want to (and, more importantly, to not revert to standard behavior during an update) so there is that.
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I have 3 laptops from 2 different organizations sitting on my desk. One's 5 years old and being retired, the other 2 are about 2 years old. All 3 have the same symptoms: constant high CPU usage, with always the same culprits showing up in Task Manager (Windows search indexer, Windows Defender, Windows Explorer, Onedrive).
One has been "updated" to Windows 11 last week (the "fuck you" style of updating Windows 10 to 11 without asking has not endeared me to the new OS), the others are on W10.
On Windows 7, idle
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One has been "updated" to Windows 11 last week (the "fuck you" style of updating Windows 10 to 11 without asking has not endeared me to the new OS)
Yeah, I agree that's bullshit, and we block that crap.. running a win11 upgrade through Windows Update makes for a really shitty user experience. On the other hand, if you run the update with customized install media, it is a little more work but the results are... much better. I have a couple of dozen pilot users updated and have gotten exactly two complaints (the afore mentioned lack of ability to dock the taskbar at whatever screen edge is desired, and one application compatibility issue, the latter of
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Hate to break this to you, but my I updated both of the three year old PCs on my desk at work back around April and I don't have any of the problems you're complaining about with Windows 11
"It works just fine for me" is about the most annoying and useless response possible when someone is reporting a problem.
I once had an issue with an XP machine where the desktop would randomly lock up for about 15 seconds. I later found out (with a lot of effort via SysInternals tools) this was due to a long-standing bug in the XP thumbnail generator where some images would just lock up Explorer until the thumbnail generator timed out. I had this issue for a couple years and it was infuriating. The best
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Do you have a HDD installed? I have one just for backups and it goes to sleep eventually. So when I open explorer it has to spin up again...
Otherwise idk. Works fine here. Hardware/user issue.
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Good luck w/MS offering real improvements to your locally running windows...
Windows has been dropping in speed since WinXP (likely before). The difference between WinXP and Win7 -- was like typing text locally into a computer vs. seeing the text echoed from a remote login session -- maybe 10+ms added to each keypress.
This is due to continued "layers" added between the user and the HW.
Now we see more layers as keys are routed to the cloud and back -- and MS (et al) want to have us get used to their services
WTF? (Score:1)
X11 hatte das vor 20 Jahren oder so schon?
Does RemoteDesktop juggle the windows? (Score:5, Interesting)
You carefully adjust the size and placement of all the windows and applications.
Then lets say the screen saver triggers or hibernation gets triggered or the home machine goes to sleep. It turns off the main screen, rejuggles all the windows and squishes them all in one corner all piled on top each other.
Does it still do that after this update?
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Then lets say the screen saver triggers or hibernation gets triggered or the home machine goes to sleep.
Probably a good idea to disable these things if you plan on remoting into a machine or having it do work after hours. I have found that most "power saving," "eco," and "sleep" settings conspire against the system getting work done at its normal levels of throughput or even against its general availability.
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Set the monitor timeout to be an hour longer than the computer timeout. Thus the machine is safely off, when the monitor turns off and sends the signal that it is not available, the machine in deep blissful sleep.
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That's usually from using a display port connection and the monitor going into deep sleep telling the OS that this monitor is no longer available. In your physical monitor settings, disable deep sleep if it is available.
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Huh, mine never does this. What setting did I get wrong?
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Compared to a 42 inch 4K monitor this one will have fonts 20% bigger. Old coots with failing eye sight can edit code in 9 point font and see as much as 80 lines in one screenful.
And with the 42 inch monitor you need move your neck up and down and that is a real pain in the real neck.
In this double wide monitor only side to side movement of the neck.
I can carefully select a monitor that fits my need. Except Microsoft thinks momentary loss of connection to the monitor
Re: Does RemoteDesktop juggle the windows? (Score:2)
My dual monitor setup resets the secondary 4k monitor as often as every 5 minutes, sometimes not for an hour. It's a DisplayMate feature, since at least 2016, and probably since inception. If the frame rates vary but as little as .02fps it bounces the monitor, especially over thunderbolt. Go ahead, ask them about it they are hilarious.
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I think it comes down to your specific monitor and how quickly it gets into a ready state after waking from sleep. What type of cables you use to connect it can influence it too.
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I don't think the resolution matters here. I've got a 3840x2160 screen and a 1920x1080 screen. For a long time, whenever the screens went to sleep, the 1080 screen would wake up first, Windows would resize everything to fit onto that screen, then the 2160 would wake up and it'd move things back onto that screen (still tiny).
Eventually I switch the 2160 screen from using an HDMI connection to using DisplayPort and the problem went away. I think the PC just detected the monitor faster via DisplayPort than it
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Android does this on some phones (Score:2)
Could solve a real issues for me (Score:1)
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No idea why you would do that, the savings must be minuscule, not to mention it's not just games that benefit from it. This is totally not what this 'fix' is for.
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Say what? (Score:1)
huh. I guess it's a good sign they appear to be "working" on something, just not sure what.
I'm using 2 27" 1440p high refresh monitors. On 4090, most of time, the fans don't spin unless It's running games.
The real problem (Score:1)
Is when I boot up window11 and the displays are not displaying properly. Wrong wallpaper on 2nd monitor and it seems...off-center?
I have to shift+cntrl+winkey+B pretty much every time I load up windows to reset the driver and get both screens to display properly. After that it's fine.
Also the way it insists on numbering the screens from left to right pisses me off.
Oh, are they done... (Score:2)
Well, that's nice.
I've always wondered... (Score:2)
Why do we still use refresh rates? Isn't this just a obsolete holdover from the days of CRTs?
cool bro (Score:2)
Nvidia RTX 30- and 40-series Founders Edition cards also have a zero RPM mode, which will keep the fans at zero even when you're watching video content on a single monitor.
I have that on my 1070 OC. Ad detected.
linahs (Score:1)
I Think... (Score:1)
more complexity = more bugs (Score:2)
title says it all